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Post by holajonathan on Nov 11, 2021 22:18:10 GMT -5
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 12, 2021 1:48:36 GMT -5
Holy crap Jonathan! And I really mean HOLY CRAP! There really are some amazing specimens in this group of pics! By the way...I seriously love it when you post a photo album worth of pictures!
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 12, 2021 1:50:13 GMT -5
Man, that's a huge variety! I like this one a lot- so much going on.
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Post by holajonathan on Nov 12, 2021 3:00:08 GMT -5
Man, that's a huge variety! I like this one a lot- so much going on.
I like the redish-brown too, especially when mixed with blue and black. The bad thing about most MMA blue is that is requires a certain depth or thickness. When slabbed the deeper blue tones usually disappear.
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Post by holajonathan on Nov 12, 2021 3:04:49 GMT -5
Holy crap Jonathan! And I really mean HOLY CRAP! There really are some amazing specimens in this group of pics! By the way...I seriously love it when you post a photo album worth of pictures! I figure that someone who isn't familiar with whatever type of rocks I am posting might enjoy seeing a whole bunch of them. The sad thing about the MMAs is that only a handful those rocks will produce fracture free slabs. Chopping them in half was the easy part. Now I have to either glue them to pieces of wood so I can run then through a slab saw, or use a rip fence on my big trim saw and hand slab them. Either way, the real work lies ahead.
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Post by holajonathan on Nov 12, 2021 3:07:50 GMT -5
These two are the same rock, cut in different directions. What look like black dots ended up bring tubes.
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Brian
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Post by Brian on Nov 12, 2021 8:56:18 GMT -5
The 6th picture is awesome! The brightly colored water lines framed by those cool dendritic shapes in the surrounding transparent areas are fantastic!
Montana agates are easily one of my favorite rocks and those photos are excellent examples of why I love it.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Nov 12, 2021 9:29:58 GMT -5
I love Montanas. You really do have a good selection of material. Lots of excellent slabs and cabs in all of those.
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Post by Son Of Beach on Nov 12, 2021 9:40:33 GMT -5
Some really neat material thanks for sharing
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Post by victor1941 on Nov 12, 2021 13:10:29 GMT -5
Super nice material! You definitely should enjoy working some great designs from that material.
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Post by lunker on Nov 12, 2021 14:20:47 GMT -5
Please excuse my heavy breathing. I just get excited when I see so much of my favorite rock. That's some great stuff
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Post by CLErocks on Nov 12, 2021 14:37:10 GMT -5
WOW! That is an amazing assortment... I love the white/black ones! Thanks for sharing.
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Post by holajonathan on Nov 12, 2021 17:07:15 GMT -5
Super nice material! You definitely should enjoy working some great designs from that material. I may be your age and retired before I have the patience to cab more than a few of these. I like large cabs, and large, low dome Montana moss agates cabs are a real test of my patience. I am working on one right now that is about 70mm x 30mm x 5mm. So far I've spent at 45 minutes on the 80 wheel, at least a half hour on the 220 hard wheel, and at least a half hour on the 280 resin wheel. I finally got it smoothed out enough to notice some lingering 80 grit scratches, so now I'm going back to the 220 wheel. I know how tough it is to get scratched out of the top of the dome, so I stopped early on the 80 grit and finished the dome on the 220 hard wheel. Apparently that wasn't enough, or perhaps what I am seeing are 220 grit scratches. Either way, I need to stop torturing myself with large cabs of this material. Or I need to finish them like you -- in a vibe tumbler.
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Post by holajonathan on Nov 12, 2021 17:10:33 GMT -5
Please excuse my heavy breathing. I just get excited when I see so much of my favorite rock. That's some great stuff I'm with you on the heavy breathing. I got my first workout carrying them all outside. They are heavy for their size. I got my second workout cutting them. These rock would laugh at most trim saws, and they managed at least a chuckle at my 1 HP monster trim saw. Then I got a workout cabbing one today -- at least a workout of my patience. They would be altogether too much trouble if they didn't look so amazing when polished.
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Post by holajonathan on Nov 12, 2021 17:13:27 GMT -5
The 6th picture is awesome! The brightly colored water lines framed by those cool dendritic shapes in the surrounding transparent areas are fantastic! Montana agates are easily one of my favorite rocks and those photos are excellent examples of why I love it. I love that on too. I have cut similar ones in the past. The white waterlines appear to be opal. Every similar one that I have slabbed has broken in half at the border between the water level part and the surround clear agate. I will probably take one slab from that rock, but if it breaks in the same spot and all the others like it, it will be a good candidate for face polishing.
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 12, 2021 19:49:35 GMT -5
Holy crap Jonathan! And I really mean HOLY CRAP! There really are some amazing specimens in this group of pics! By the way...I seriously love it when you post a photo album worth of pictures! I figure that someone who isn't familiar with whatever type of rocks I am posting might enjoy seeing a whole bunch of them. The sad thing about the MMAs is that only a handful those rocks will produce fracture free slabs. Chopping them in half was the easy part. Now I have to either glue them to pieces of wood so I can run then through a slab saw, or use a rip fence on my big trim saw and hand slab them. Either way, the real work lies ahead. Even if I'm familiar with a certain type of rock...I still like all the eye-candy! Even the slabs with fractures should still allow for several nice cabs out of them...probably just not the belt-buckle sized cabs you like to make! LOL (Teasing!) Rip fence and trim saw...I know that method well! LOL
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Post by victor1941 on Nov 13, 2021 9:56:57 GMT -5
Holajonathan, large flat or domed montana works very well in my UV-18 vibe.
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Post by saxplayer on Nov 13, 2021 10:54:46 GMT -5
Fantastic material. As you have discovered - VERY hard. You have some nice pieces in there though for sure.
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Post by holajonathan on Nov 15, 2021 13:25:32 GMT -5
Holajonathan, large flat or domed montana works very well in my UV-18 vibe. I have vibe tumbled Montana agate flats with great success. They get incredibly shiny in a vibe tumbler. For cabs I prefer at least a slight dome. I have tried vibe finishing domed Montana agate cabs. I ground the dome on the 80 and 220 grit hard wheels and did a little smoothing with a 140 grit resin wheel before tossing them in the Lot-O tumbler. It took two runs (about 2-1/2 days each) through 220 grit SiC to remove the scratches from the Montana agate cabs. Although the Lot-O does not alter the shape nearly as much a rotary tumbler, it does round off sharp edges to an extent. After five days in silicon carbide the girdle was quiet round. I generally like a well defined girdle line, especially on thin low dome cabs. I have been able to retain a sharper girdle line by spending a lot more time on the 140 and 280 grit resin wheels before putting Montana cabs in the Lot-O tumbler. That way I only have to run them 2 days in 220 grit SiC. But by the time I've worked out almost all the scratches on the 280 resin wheel, most of the work is done, and finishing them in the vibe tumbler is not a huge time saver. I will continue to experiment with this. Do you have any photos of large flat Montana agates that you tumble finished?
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Post by holajonathan on Nov 15, 2021 13:39:45 GMT -5
saxplayerI love tumbling Montana agates, but I wish I could get larger tumbles. Larger pieces usually break up or fracture during the tumbling process. Most of the fractures were already there, but tumbling makes them more visible. When bad fractures show up during tumbling, I either split the tumbles with a chisel or try to grind out the fractures. This works, and after at least a few months, I can get impossibly shiny and fracture free MT agate tumbles. But most are quite small by the end of the process. Although I have a few handfuls of larger MT agate tumbles like this: I have many more small ones like this: Please ignore the fingerprints, dust, and cat hair. Have you had much luck with larger MT agate tumbles?
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