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Post by nursetumbler on Mar 15, 2022 22:12:44 GMT -5
I know they are all gouged up (thank you blue looking one) but can i ask why one is red, one is blue and the rest are gold? These will go back into stage 2 as soon as the barrel opens up.
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aGates
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Post by aGates on Mar 15, 2022 22:15:08 GMT -5
red is heat treated i forget why blue is blue and gold is el natural. who knows whats up with the blue?
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Post by nursetumbler on Mar 15, 2022 22:17:52 GMT -5
red is heat treated i forget why blue is blue and gold is el natural. who knows whats up with the blue? aGatesCould they be hawk eyes? I looked up the colors right after I posted it
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Post by nursetumbler on Mar 15, 2022 22:18:51 GMT -5
TommyThank you thank you thank you thank you thank yoh thank you thank you thank you
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Post by Tommy on Mar 15, 2022 23:45:01 GMT -5
TommyThank you thank you thank you thank you thank yoh thank you thank you thank you
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Post by Peruano on Mar 16, 2022 6:30:21 GMT -5
Read about them, but briefly the blue is Hawkeye and the asbestos fibers exposed is less silicated than the golden tiger eye where it has been replaced by silica. Reddish material can occur without any heat treatment and in the same slab as the more golden variety. Its wonderful stuff even tho quite common in the trade. See the quartzpage.de Google is your friend (sometimes)
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Post by jasoninsd on Mar 16, 2022 8:10:17 GMT -5
Read about them, but briefly the blue is Hawkeye and the asbestos fibers exposed is less silicated than the golden tiger eye where it has been replaced by silica. Reddish material can occur without any heat treatment and in the same slab as the more golden variety. Its wonderful stuff even tho quite common in the trade. See the quartzpage.de Google is your friend (sometimes) Quite a long time ago, my ex-wife texted me a question that I thought she could have...with little effort...found out on her own. I texted back, "Google. It's your friend." About an hour later she texted me back and said, "I Googled 'It's your friend', but all kinds of things came up, but no answer to my question!" - I just shook my head! LOL nursetumbler - That's quite a variety on the Tiger Eye. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the red tones can also come from a wild fire that went overtop of the Tiger Eye while still in the ground...nature's way of "heat treating".
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Post by waterboysh on Mar 16, 2022 14:39:55 GMT -5
Trying to Google anything about Tiger's Eye is pointless unless you want to know its secret meaning or why it's the most powerful gemstone in existence. It's almost just as bad as trying to Google information about obsidian (mostly Minecraft stuff is what comes up).
The blue tiger's eye is called variegated tiger's eye.
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Post by nursetumbler on Mar 16, 2022 20:58:01 GMT -5
Trying to Google anything about Tiger's Eye is pointless unless you want to know its secret meaning or why it's the most powerful gemstone in existence. It's almost just as bad as trying to Google information about obsidian (mostly Minecraft stuff is what comes up). The blue tiger's eye is called variegated tiger's eye. Thank you waterboysh
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Post by Peruano on Mar 17, 2022 6:09:43 GMT -5
waterboysh you may have missed the point in my hurried scribblings. See the quartzpage.de Google is your friend (sometimes) I don't carry the exact url for the quartzpage but google will lead you there. If you explore the page it will give insights, technical info, and photos of just about every variety of rock made of rock/gem in the quartz/chalcedony umbrella including tiger eye, hawkseye, and yes cat eye. Its a powerful resource and focused exactly on many of the stones we work with, admire, and try to understand. I hope you did not interpret my guidance as smug. That was not my intent.
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Post by rmf on Mar 17, 2022 6:43:38 GMT -5
if you heat blue tigereye it turns golden, If you heat golden tigereye it becomes read. This latter is due to a change in the state of the Iron present in the tigereye.
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Post by nursetumbler on Mar 18, 2022 10:25:32 GMT -5
if you heat blue tigereye it turns golden, If you heat golden tigereye it becomes read. This latter is due to a change in the state of the Iron present in the tigereye. Thank you
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Post by dshanpnw on Mar 18, 2022 17:51:52 GMT -5
Nice you got the photo upload working well. Tigers-eye is nice, I really like the red. Thanks for posting the photos.
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Post by nursetumbler on Mar 18, 2022 20:48:34 GMT -5
Nice you got the photo upload working well. Tigers-eye is nice, I really like the red. Thanks for posting the photos. Tommy helped me
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Post by doublebluff on Mar 19, 2022 9:26:54 GMT -5
Good stuff! Thank you for posting. I am doing my first batch of tiger eye right now, it is 10 days into round one of course grit.
That quartzpage site is quite cool.
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Post by rmf on Mar 20, 2022 10:18:14 GMT -5
if you heat blue tigereye it turns golden, If you heat golden tigereye it becomes read. This latter is due to a change in the state of the Iron present in the tigereye. Just want to say I am not really that illiterate I do know the difference between Red and Read. At least sometimes:/
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Post by nursetumbler on Mar 20, 2022 10:54:11 GMT -5
if you heat blue tigereye it turns golden, If you heat golden tigereye it becomes read. This latter is due to a change in the state of the Iron present in the tigereye. Just want to say I am not really that illiterate I do know the difference between Red and Read. At least sometimes:/ @mrf 🙃
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 20, 2022 14:06:49 GMT -5
Just want to say I am not really that illiterate I do know the difference between Red and Read. At least sometimes:/ @mrf Or @mrf and rmf? Fixed it for you...
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Prov
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Post by Prov on Mar 27, 2022 12:37:53 GMT -5
Funny thing, I started my first batch of mixed Gold/Red/Blue Tigerseye 7 days ago. I'll probably be checking it late next week, to see how it's rounded out. I can't wait to see how they turn out. Winters finally over, I can tumble again!
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Post by LazerFlash on Mar 28, 2022 16:25:26 GMT -5
I know they are all gouged up (thank you blue looking one)... Since you put your photos up, I'm going to presume that you're looking for some observations/opinions/advice...
First off, despite some of the flaws, great job on your tumble! I've personally found that while it's really cool to look at, tiger's eye seems be a bit of a PITA to work with.
A thing that sticks out, is there's not a lot of size variety in your batch. One of the things that I've had banged into me is that size matters - as in variety of sizes. Lately, my barrel usually has everything from minuscule pieces to rocks up to 'hey-maybe-this-is-too-big'. I even bought a couple of pounds of what was labeled as "small" rough to have a good size assortment. (LOL I even had the seller DM me that the small rough really wasn't big enough to tumble by itself. After telling him what it was for, he said that it was perfect for that, and that I might also end up with some interesting little pieces.)
Also, what else was in the barrel with those stones? I know that you've been part of some threads about media; what are you using? Personally, I've used plastic pellets at each step with some successes over the past 8 months or so. I'm now switching over to ceramic in everything but the beginning 60/90 and final AO polish. FWIW, I've been throwing some of this (marble?) gravel that I bought from Dollar Tree in with my 60/90 steps along with the plastic.
I think because tiger's eye is crystalline in structure, there's going to be a tendency to fracture and bruise. Sadly, I don't really have an answer to that. Some on here have mentioned better "cushioning". One thing that I'm going to try now that I have some extra capacity, is reusing some of my stage-specific sledge. I'm hoping that with stones that might be a bit more fragile, making the slurry thicker from the very beginning might reduce the damage at each stage; I doubt it will hurt.
Lastly, I will admit that I have used a Dremel and a die grinder with diamond grinding wheels to take off some spots that might have caused some problems. (For instance, knowing what I know now, I probably would've preshaped that stone in the upper right corner of your first picture before even throwing it in a 60/90 stage.)
Okay, now for the disclaimer: As you know, we are both newbs. So, you should take what I say with a BIG grain of salt. There are plenty of others on here who more than qualify as experts, as their photos demonstrate.
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