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Post by jasoninsd on Jun 19, 2022 22:54:13 GMT -5
I decided to dink around and draw some new shapes...you know...something other than a teardrop! LOL I have four new templates from Captopia showing up this week. I figure I'll cut these out and give myself another 12 options for shapes...since I hate freeforms! LOL - I drew them right side up and upside down next to each other just to see how the shapes would look either way...  |
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Post by liveoak on Jun 20, 2022 5:57:28 GMT -5
I just thought I'd mention that if you have a vinyl cutter (or maybe your wife or one of her friends do) you can make your own stencils with it. They sell "stencil paper" (plastic)
I only recently figured that out & am pretty happy about it.
Patty
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Post by jasoninsd on Jun 20, 2022 7:02:43 GMT -5
I just thought I'd mention that if you have a vinyl cutter (or maybe your wife or one of her friends do) you can make your own stencils with it. They sell "stencil paper" (plastic)
I only recently figured that out & am pretty happy about it.
Patty
Thanks for the info Patty.  Awhile back I printed out the free templates from here on the forum on photo paper, then put a laminate sheet on each side before cutting out the shapes. It has worked like a charm so far. With these, I can't print them out because they're hand-drawn, so I'm going to use the two laminating sheets on each side of the graph paper to "strengthen" the templates. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 20, 2022 9:20:07 GMT -5
I see some really sweet shapes!
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Post by jasoninsd on Jun 20, 2022 16:06:07 GMT -5
I see some really sweet shapes! Thanks Tela! I'm pretty stoked about some of these shapes! I've shown it to a couple people who pointed out their favorites...and least favorites. They both picked their favorite...which was the least favorite of the other...and vice versa! It was awesome! That tells me I've got a good "mix"! |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 20, 2022 16:10:24 GMT -5
I see some really sweet shapes! Thanks Tela!  I'm pretty stoked about some of these shapes! I've shown it to a couple people who pointed out their favorites...and least favorites. They both picked their favorite...which was the least favorite of the other...and vice versa! It was awesome! That tells me I've got a good "mix"! I can't remember, have you done inside curves, yet? Not too tough, really, but wrapping them can be a pain. |
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Post by MsAli on Jun 20, 2022 16:22:49 GMT -5
Oooo lala Monsieur, those are magnifique
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Post by jasoninsd on Jun 20, 2022 16:46:50 GMT -5
Thanks Tela! I'm pretty stoked about some of these shapes! I've shown it to a couple people who pointed out their favorites...and least favorites. They both picked their favorite...which was the least favorite of the other...and vice versa! It was awesome! That tells me I've got a good "mix"! I can't remember, have you done inside curves, yet? Not too tough, really, but wrapping them can be a pain. I have done some inside curves. I've wrapped them also...and yes...they're a PAIN! LOL - The Velvet Obsidian that just sold the other night had an inside curve... Oooo lala Monsieur, those are magnifique Thanks Ali! Good thing I speak French...you know, since I'm a French Model! (I put it on the internet...so it must be true!! LOL ) |
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Post by mohs on Jun 20, 2022 19:05:26 GMT -5
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Post by jasoninsd on Jun 20, 2022 20:05:53 GMT -5
Those French curves are better looking than the French Curves I have! LOL |
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Post by stardiamond on Jun 21, 2022 0:14:31 GMT -5
What do you see the benefit of using a template non symmetrical shape over a wing it free form? When a slabette or scrap doesn't lend itself to a symmetrical template shape, I mark straight lines to frame the pattern and then grind to a shape that is pleasing to my eye.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jun 21, 2022 6:51:48 GMT -5
What do you see the benefit of using a template non symmetrical shape over a wing it free form? When a slabette or scrap doesn't lend itself to a symmetrical template shape, I mark straight lines to frame the pattern and then grind to a shape that is pleasing to my eye. That's a great question. For me personally, I'm a very technical person when it comes to making cabs. It's like an artist who can paint on a blank canvas. I'm not one of those. I prefer to have a paint by numbers canvas with lines for me to stay within. I've tried making cabs free hand. It doesn't work for me. They always come out looking like a blob. I will however use a template shape, and alter it as necessary to capture the pattern in the rock as best I can. I might elongate one side, or shorten one side, or make the curve different, but I always want to have a line drawn for me. |
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Post by liveoak on Jun 21, 2022 9:00:01 GMT -5
I'm glad I'm not alone there !
Totally agree Jason.
Patty
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Post by stardiamond on Jun 21, 2022 9:40:17 GMT -5
Let's talk lines. I love lines so much I draw them in ink so they don't wash off.
I draw lines on top to design and trim with the saw and then I redraw the shape on the bottom. Must stay outside the lines!
I saw a cab making video by a well known lapidary artist where the lines were only drawn only on the top and the bottom was squared to the top. When I rough grind the girdle and the dome. I want to get them right. When I am fine tuning I square the top to the bottom and since I don't have x-ray vision I am working blind. I am guided but what my eyes see not lines. I imagine it is the same where the lines are only drawn on the top.
Since I need to get the top right without lines, I can use my eyes to change the shape on free forms so there is a flow and not a blob. When I first started out, I traced free form shapes on cabs from my wife's collection that best fit a pattern on a slab.
Slabs fracture and what I started out with is not always what I end up and then winging it.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jun 21, 2022 14:39:06 GMT -5
I'm glad I'm not alone there ! Totally agree Jason. Patty Yeah...I seriously can't do it without "guidelines"! LOL - I think it's about the only thing in my life I want with "guidelines! LOL Let's talk lines. I love lines so much I draw them in ink so they don't wash off. I draw lines on top to design and trim with the saw and then I redraw the shape on the bottom. Must stay outside the lines! I saw a cab making video by a well known lapidary artist where the lines were only drawn only on the top and the bottom was squared to the top. When I rough grind the girdle and the dome. I want to get them right. When I am fine tuning I square the top to the bottom and since I don't have x-ray vision I am working blind. I am guided but what my eyes see not lines. I imagine it is the same where the lines are only drawn on the top. Since I need to get the top right without lines, I can use my eyes to change the shape on free forms so there is a flow and not a blob. When I first started out, I traced free form shapes on cabs from my wife's collection that best fit a pattern on a slab. Slabs fracture and what I started out with is not always what I end up and then winging it. I draw my girdle line in Sharpie...not the fat one...the fine-tipped Sharpie. When I cab, I wear my reading glasses, my optivisor, and look through a 3X magnifying light so I can see precisely where I'm grinding. I will grind down EXACTLY to the sharpie line on the 80 grit. Then on the 220 wheel, I'll bisect that tiny thin sharpie line and take half of it off. Then on the 280 soft, I'm taking all but a hair width of the girdle line. My shape is also drawn with a fine tipped Sharpie. I don't do my shaping on the wheels. I do my shaping on the trim saw. It works better for me. So...if you're tracing free forms...doesn't that by definition then become the "template" for the next one...thus the new one is no longer a "free form"?? (Just needling you a bit...but I do feel that's true! LOL) I too have had pieces fracture off...and have had to "alter" the stenciled shape...which is about the only time I feel I get a good looking free form! LOL |
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Post by stardiamond on Jun 21, 2022 15:21:47 GMT -5
I was tracing free forms, not now. The most important thing to me is framing the pattern. When grinding the dome the pattern can change. For symmetrical shapes, I accept what is there. On free forms, I can adjust the shape to better align with the pattern.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jun 21, 2022 19:29:26 GMT -5
I was tracing free forms, not now. The most important thing to me is framing the pattern. When grinding the dome the pattern can change. For symmetrical shapes, I accept what is there. On free forms, I can adjust the shape to better align with the pattern. Like I said I was just needling you about tracing a free form meant you were using a "template" on the new one... One of the most fun aspects of this entire hobby (for me) is to find the best shape for the pattern...when there is one available. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jun 21, 2022 19:40:12 GMT -5
These showed up in the mail today!! Whoot Whoot!!!  |
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Post by perkins17 on Jun 21, 2022 19:48:45 GMT -5
Those are some neat shapes that you made. I like the cabtopia ones as well. I just bought the classic set of three from Covington so now I can mark out on my "huge collection" of slabs. I'm really watching the marketplace section on here lol.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jun 21, 2022 19:56:32 GMT -5
Those are some neat shapes that you made. I like the cabtopia ones as well. I just bought the classic set of three from Covington so now I can mark out on my "huge collection" of slabs. I'm really watching the marketplace section on here lol. Thanks Perk! I don't "need" any new material...but that hasn't stopped me from getting more! LOL |
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