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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 21, 2022 23:39:58 GMT -5
... this has been asked 100 times, but if you were to dump your tumbling waste into yard plants would that be good or bad for them?
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Post by vance71975 on Nov 21, 2022 23:45:07 GMT -5
... this has been asked 100 times, but if you were to dump your tumbling waste into yard plants would that be good or bad for them? It can/does kill plants. Dump it where you dont want weeds growing or in a rock bed. NEVER in the house. It will turn to cement in your pipes.
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 21, 2022 23:46:36 GMT -5
... this has been asked 100 times, but if you were to dump your tumbling waste into yard plants would that be good or bad for them? It can/does kill plants. Dump it where you dont want weeds growing or in a rock bed. NEVER in the house. It will turn to cement in your pipes. OK, thanks! I knew about the pipes. I'm writing a cheat sheet/guide for my daughter to give to her with the tumbler.
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Post by Pat on Nov 21, 2022 23:47:54 GMT -5
Hmmm, seems like the sludge would be too thick for plants to drink up…. unless the sludge were thinned. Otherwise, sounds ok … unless the plants were allergic to it.
I don’t know! Obviously!
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 22, 2022 0:51:49 GMT -5
I might be wrong...but I was under the impression the general consensus was the vast majority of sludge was okay for plants. It's basically putting minerals back into the soil. I don't tumble enough to have tried it myself...so I can't speak for any personal results.
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Post by jimaz on Nov 22, 2022 1:25:16 GMT -5
If you use borax it will kill plants.
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Post by vance71975 on Nov 22, 2022 1:33:18 GMT -5
... this has been asked 100 times, but if you were to dump your tumbling waste into yard plants would that be good or bad for them? I’d say for yard plants it’s good or harmless at worst. Ground up rock makes up the majority of most soils, and it’s relatively harmless as a fertilizer/addition to most landscape applications. Silcon Carbide and Aluminum Oxide are both Toxic to plants.
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Post by vance71975 on Nov 22, 2022 1:38:24 GMT -5
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Post by rockbrain on Nov 22, 2022 1:47:34 GMT -5
The only plant I see mentioned in that first article is the manufacturing plant. What am I missing? Plus, don't plants store SIC?
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Post by vance71975 on Nov 22, 2022 4:42:26 GMT -5
The only plant I see mentioned in that first article is the manufacturing plant. What am I missing? Plus, don't plants store SIC? ya the first one I looked up was the wrong article. But its Simple enough to test, Dump your Barrel with SIC in one out of the way patch of weeds or grass and your AO in Another, and see what happens. I say its toxic for plants becuse I have used both SIC water and AO water to kill plants in the cracks in a drive way. Plus I have saw youtube rock tumblers that say they dump their water in their stone driveway because it kills off the weeds that grow up in the drive. But As always with anything even slightly science based, do your own test of course, you could even get a couple cheap houseplants from wal mart and test it on them.
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Post by snuffy on Nov 22, 2022 5:09:41 GMT -5
I dumped all my tumblers liquids in my garden for years and years with no ill effect.I always considered the added minerals beneficial.
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Post by jimmie on Nov 22, 2022 5:15:35 GMT -5
I dump the water that’s separated from my tumbling sludge around my lavender plants on the outside of my garden, there’s always a little heavy sludge mixed in. The water and sludge from my vibs never. Borax is a salt, not good for plants. If I’m tumbling agates, the waste water is ok. Vib water , never.
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 22, 2022 7:15:45 GMT -5
Oh my goodness! Now, I'm more confused. I like the test idea. I'll have to have a discussion with my daughter.
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Post by brybry on Nov 22, 2022 9:16:48 GMT -5
jamesp did an experiment of sorts with his slurry. He dumped some in his potted plants in his nursery had some amazing results. I would think it also depends on what you tumbled. I dump mine in my garden beds and pots. Quite a bit does get washed into the grass with no ill effects.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 22, 2022 10:12:48 GMT -5
jamesp did an experiment of sorts with his slurry. He dumped some in his potted plants in his nursery had some amazing results. I would think it also depends on what you tumbled. I dump mine in my garden beds and pots. Quite a bit does get washed into the grass with no ill effects. That's correct at brybry. Out of 100 plants of the same kind 5 were planted in 100% slurry and they well out performed my native red clay in the other 95 pots. That would be tumbling agate and quartz stones in SiC and AO with no Borax. Borax would seem to be bad for plants. University of Georgia AG school noticed exceptional growth alongside granite gravel roads where granite dust is constantly landing. Gravel(quartz and felspar) dust is often amended to soil as a nutrient. www.growingagreenerworld.com/rock-minerals-as-soil-amendments/
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Post by pebblesky on Nov 22, 2022 12:09:13 GMT -5
I dumped my slurry to the driveway cracks to kill the weeds. It seems to work that I can uproot the dying weeds quite easily, but it might also be due to the season change and less sun exposure when the weeds are covered with mud. I will do more experiments on some other areas in my backyard. Sounds too much fun to miss.
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Post by vance71975 on Nov 22, 2022 13:22:14 GMT -5
I also just thought about the fact that I use Borax in the water on all stages. duh, sometimes I swear my brain doesnt work.
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Post by pauls on Nov 22, 2022 16:35:24 GMT -5
I have been washing my tumbling sludge in the same patch of lawn for years, If anything it seems to grow better than the rest of the grass. If you are concerned just put it in a bucket and let it dry out then dump it in the bin.
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Post by rmf on Nov 23, 2022 4:39:54 GMT -5
Aluminum Oxide is toxic to plants only for for a low PH below 5.5 as stated in vance71975's cited article. "It is considered to be phytotoxic to the majority of plants if the soil pH decreases below 5.5 which causes Al to become soluble while changing its hydroxide form Al(OH)3 to toxic forms such as Al(OH)2+, Al(OH)2+ and Al3+" So keeping soil PH around 7 should solve the problem. Since soils in the south tend to be real high in clay which is mostly aluminum oxide adding more Al2O3 should not be a problem. As for SiC as far is I know the only hazard is breathing aerosolized dust. As stated above Borax can kill plants or you can dilute it over a wider area. If you are tumbling minerals with sulfides there may also be other minerals but for common Silicates like Agate and Jasper the tumbler slug should be ok for dumping on flowers or lawns. I still would not dump it in my food garden just in case. just like I do not have a problem using horse, cow, chicken feces as fertilizer in my garden. But not dog or cat or night soil. Though I would not hesitate to put these latter 3 on my yard for fertilizer.
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