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Post by james2 on Sept 23, 2004 9:07:44 GMT -5
Lortone tumblers 33B and 33B 220 volts. what's the difference between the motors, which one is better. the 220 volt is more expensive.
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Post by krazydiamond on Sept 23, 2004 9:40:40 GMT -5
the 220 V is for use in countries which use that voltage, like the UK. unless you want to run it through a transformer on a regular american outlet or plug it into a 220 clothes dryer socket, go for the 110V or you will be very unpleasantly surprised!
KD
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Post by docone31 on Sept 23, 2004 11:25:25 GMT -5
220 is more efficient. It is also extremely dangerous. 220 travels better, longer in transmission lines with less loss. A 220 motor, on 120, will burn out. A 120 motor on 220 is interesting watch. Smoke, red glow, heat, puddle of molten metal, that ozone smell. So, if it is more efficient to run 220, than why not re-wire the circuit? Cost, and in this country, most appliances are based on 120. The efficiency is lost on the wireing upgrade that has a single purpose. Kilns above a certain size are usually 220. They use the ampherage more easily availabe through 220. The equal kiln size, watts, the 220 will be more efficient than the 120. In this country, I reccomend staying with 120. I doubt people take their tumbler on a trip overseas. The transformer takes power to operate so the efficiency is lost using 220 on a 120 tumbler using a transformer. If such item is only available in 220 and the circuit is 120 then a transformer is a recquirement.
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Post by krazydiamond on Sept 23, 2004 12:26:10 GMT -5
what a novel idea, taking your tumbler on holiday! i can see explaining THAT to Mr. Customs Man.
hairdryers these days come with dual settings, and you can still buy the transformers with multiple shaped plugs for use in a variety of overseas outlets, but most upmarket hotels will accomodate at least 110V shavers.
(the roaming tumbler send postcards from all the hot rock spots...and this is me tumbling in Tibet...)
KD
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Post by deepsouth on Sept 23, 2004 15:46:17 GMT -5
Good morning to you all, Hmmm 220 Volts :" Extremely Dangerous ??" Where on earth did you get that idea from? I have lived with this extremely difficult material all my life of (59 years and a bit ) and still going strong. It has run every type of electrical equipment very efficiently. One of my sons once had a shock at someone elses house through a faulty plug. His hair stood upright for three weeks nonstop and a month later the sparks were still flying every time he went to the toilet. So if you want the same hilarious experience , just poke your fingers in the tiny powerpoint holes and laugh. No seriously , do NOT do that. plain crazy. Power is only dangerous when nitwits make it dangerous. Hurrycanes are more dangerous Jack
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Post by krazydiamond on Sept 23, 2004 16:16:03 GMT -5
wasn't sure if NZ ran 220V or not, now i know. and you call them "powerpoints", too! sorry, not laughing at you, Jack, just marveling at the different ways we all use the Engish language.
KD
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Post by docone31 on Sept 23, 2004 19:30:27 GMT -5
Jack, I know so little of New Zealand. We have receptacles here, power points... Cool. In terms of extreme danger with 220, I suspect, we have a different ampherage here with 220. When people here get hit with 220, the range, the dryer, the water heater, the welder, the compressor, few make it. I have gotten hit plugging in a dryer. 220 is diferent than 120. The jolt from 120 gives a grab and a tingle. The hit from 220 I experienced, I had the plug in my hand and pushing it into the wall receptacle I touched the metal part. The jolt tightened my grip, my arm felt like a rod was being driven down it and I was tossed against the wall some feet away. It was months untill the tingling in my hand went away and my arm was sore at the joints for a very long time. Upon speaking with electritians, medical professionals, 220 causes the muscles to lock. I must have clamped down on the plug, and my leg muscles must have reflexed and I bounced back. I also know it is not voltage, it is ampherage that does the dance. 12V60a can do a person very quickly. I will bet the ampherage in the household receptacles, powerpoints must be much lower than what we have here for 220. I really love hearing about other aspects of living and trying to compare it to where I am.
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Post by deepsouth on Sept 23, 2004 21:18:13 GMT -5
I have purchased machinery from the USA and they make sure that it comes with a motor to suit our country, hence motors that run on 220 volts. I would not like to try out one of 120 volts on our system, expecting that the worst will happen We still get most of our (hydro)electricity through a system of dams with a few other powerstations that burn coal, gas or oil. They now have also embarked on the windmill system with more expected to be built in the near future. The south island has most of the lakes and sends power through a cable to the north island. We have not yet mastered the art of beaming it across. There are 4 million people in NZ and 3.8 million dairycows. Average number of cows per farm is 300 . 20 Years ago that was 150. There are fewer farmers now , but more cows per farmer. Have fun, got to go back to sorting through a batch of rocks coming out of 60/90 grit Jack
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Post by docone31 on Sept 23, 2004 23:01:12 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. Nobody I know has been to NZ. It must be beautiful. I am sure it has the challenges and trials like any other place. Wind power is growing here. In Arizona and California on Interstate 10 you can see a lot more windmills than there used to be. They also look like they have grown up a little more. They are virtually silent. Thanks for the insight into your homeland. I appreciate it.
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