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Post by Cher on Jun 19, 2005 17:18:45 GMT -5
To all you great "rockin" Fathers out there and to any Mom's who have to fill both sets of shoes. Hope you all have a really great day and get spoiled rotten!
Cher
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Post by docone31 on Jun 19, 2005 21:32:51 GMT -5
Fathers day, what a day that is. My son is a little above me. I keep trying, but his part is up to him. I was there, with him in my arms, when he was born. I changed his diapers, I heard his first words, I saw his first steps. Those days were fathers days. Today, fathers day is at least knowing he is ok enough to be a pain in the butt. At 30, there is not too much I can tell him. I can only hope he can survive himself long enough to add one more day.
I am a jeweler, he is a college educated janitor. I am a dummy, he is vying for position. I want to train him, he tells me I should get a real job.
All I can do is keep reaching out.
What a fathers day it would be if I could take my tools and materials and show him how to make what he might see. It is not time yet. Someday.
I have a 12 yr old protege' that belongs to a customer of ours. We have been having him be with us in the shop and we have been teaching him the ropes. I have been showing him how it works, Jenne has been showing him how to do what she does, and I have been working with his parents. He shows a lot of promise.
He was given an ADHD test in school. Not the medical ADHD test, the political ADHD test. Jenne is a degreed psychologist. We have told his parents to get him off the drugs they have him on and find an alternate. When he is not medicated, he is sharp as a whip. He can design, create, and sell better than my adult student. When he is on the medication he is just zoned out.
My fathers day was spent telling his father and mother, perhaps, he has been catalogued and he doesn't fit his category. They actually looked suprised. When we showed them what he had done, non medicated, and medicated, they were shocked. On the Ridylin he is a total socially controlled bozo. Off the Ridylin he is gifted, intuitive, creative.
We shall see. If nothing else, he will have learned something he did not know before.
How jewelery is made. That can carry him when everything else fails.
I hope everyone also had a day with such meaning. To see the parents suddenly see their son, almost for the first time, they are Yuppies, made this a good day. Even if nothing happens, in the young man, seeds have been planted on how to fix things, and how to make things, and what is needed.
A good day. I hope everyone else had a day such as this.
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Jun 20, 2005 11:00:17 GMT -5
Doc- What a touching Father's Day- Yes Rydlin is the electricals drug of choice for "creative Minds" My son had a friend how was a problem child (you all know the type) Well Rydlin solved that- He walks around like a zoombie- His parents were well meaning but a bit uninformed (plus they like NOT getting calls from school) Well needless to say this kid turned 18- got off the drugs and Dropped out! too bad- he was a pretty cool kid. I hope your son will come around- Life is too short to not appreciate what is in front of you- Keep trying and don't give up- You can throw a rope to a drowning man- but only he can grab on!
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Post by docone31 on Jun 20, 2005 12:01:22 GMT -5
Stefan, I couldn't agree more. I hope my son at least looks this way. He is also a product of the state through his mother. The other little lad, his parents are politically correct. His child will probably pay for the rest of his life for their best wishes. We are trying.
In the sixties it was take the streets! Today it is, the state has taken our children and they like it. We are turning into a nation of domestic animals whose only purpose is to be good subjects. An individual has no place in the collective.
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Post by Tweetiepy on Jun 21, 2005 11:45:26 GMT -5
I've heard so many horror stories of Ritalin that it scares me as my son would be one of those kids that they'll tell me needs it. He's very VERY active and for his tiny size of less than 3 feet for a 5 year old, he more than makes up for it by his brute force and his will. He's always fighting and does not listen well to instructions. I'd hate to have him put on that stuff. My friend is a teacher and she says she knows when the kids are on and off medication as it shows in how they listen & follow the class.
Doc, you know you just can't push people into doing something that they don't want to do or don't want to try. He might feel pushed and then "go in backwards" (sorry can't find the english translation). But if he goes in on it on his own terms, he may be more accepting - like an invitation "if you ever feel like you want me to show you this stuff, just let me know"
My husband hates all crafts (he's really horrible and still draws lousy stick figures - he has no talent wht-so-ever) but one year I was carving & sculpting a pumpkin and he picked up the tools & started helping my then 6 year old daughter carve hers and he ended up taking over her pumpkin (I had to give her another one) but now every year we have about 7-9 pumpkins out carved, sculpted & decorated for Halloween - he had to want to try it out himself - now he's hooked - he sculpted Shrek & Donkey out of a 1 foot tall pumpkin last year - Spiderman, Dora, Nemo, Dory, a punched out face (my 4 year old) and stars & moons were out last year
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MichiganRocks
starting to spend too much on rocks
"I wasn't born to follow."
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Post by MichiganRocks on Jun 21, 2005 14:35:56 GMT -5
Ritalin is one of biggest disgraces of modern times. Mankind has done quite well for millions of years without it, and suddenly no kid can go to school without it! What ever happened to just letting kids be kids? Kids aren't supposed to look and act like zombies.
Ron
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Dissenting opinions are welcomed. It won't hurt my feeling.
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Post by sandsman1 on Jun 21, 2005 17:05:32 GMT -5
hi cher and thanks for the fathersday wishs i forgot it was fathers day till i seen my brother get gifts from his wife at the shore i was down there droppin off a truck load of stuff
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Post by Cher on Jun 21, 2005 17:18:57 GMT -5
You're very welcome John.
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