nancyf
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Post by nancyf on Nov 25, 2007 13:14:05 GMT -5
Okie doke...I've worked up a page today for the sizes of wire I use to make my jewelry. I hope this helps you all. Let me know if it does...ok, and if it don't. www.keystonejewelry.com/wire%20size.htmHugs, Nancy F
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adrian65
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Post by adrian65 on Nov 25, 2007 14:58:34 GMT -5
Great tutorial, thanks for sharing your expertise with us. I'd have a sugestion: as this tutorial is used by newbies in wrapping (like me) who don't know what those figures mean, and also because some wrappers could roll their wire by themselfes, a conversion table between gauges and actual size of the cross-section would be great.
Thank you,
Adrian
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nancyf
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Post by nancyf on Nov 25, 2007 15:10:36 GMT -5
uh oh...I'm not real sure what you mean. ack! Most places you order wire from use gauge size...there are tables there on their sites (usually) for actual MM...like 18 gauge is 1mm. Ha! That one I just remembered. I get an A+...na na ne na na....lol.... Anywho, is that what you mean? What mm is the gauge?
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Post by adrian65 on Nov 25, 2007 15:16:54 GMT -5
Yes, Nancy, that's what I mean. What mm is each gauge.
Adrian
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nancyf
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Post by nancyf on Nov 25, 2007 17:48:44 GMT -5
ok, here is the problem...some places have different mm's for different gauges! ack! That is a good point to make on my site info. hmmmm..... Main thing is, order from companies that have the same mm's for their gauges...or...order from one company! yikes...oh, that isn't so hard when you find a good one. Heaven knows we've given numerous companies out for Pete's sakes. Still, I will make note of that. ;D
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Post by LCARS on Nov 25, 2007 19:19:50 GMT -5
Looks good. I learned a few things and I haven't even done any wire wrapping yet. ;D
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Post by nancyf on Nov 25, 2007 19:38:12 GMT -5
Way to go!!!! I am so happy about that. ;D
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Post by docone31 on Nov 26, 2007 21:54:32 GMT -5
Nancy, what you are doing is a great thing. Laying it all out so people can reference. From beginners to the "OH, I forgot about that, it has been so long." Wire size, Guage is an approximate. I have written about this over and over on this forum. Years ago, I used to work for a refinery. I had a lot of fun. I never thought I would ever be a jeweler, let alone be called a good one. Go figuire. At any rate, when a customer would order wire, or sheet stock by guage, we knew he/she was either a newbie, or what we would call an "Hippie Hempster". Rank amateur. Guage has a tolerance of + or - 15%. What that means is, if you are wrapping in 22 guage and you order some wire to finish the wrap, you might be sent .024, or .028. Both sizes are within guage specs. Same with 20 guage, you might be sent .028, .031, or .032. You cannot pull gold filled down to size. We almost never sent oversized wire, it was always undersized and always within guage spec. I have had people on the other end of the phone get stuck on guage. I have had orders come guage. I either talk to the CEO, or customer service and get it fixed. I do not let customer order takers process by guage. I also order 15 to 20 ozs at a time. When you talk guage, they think amateur. Jewelers order by either mm. or .000. You would not order a stone by "about Xmm., X Xmm. You would order by a specific mm designation. 10 X 12mm. or 8 X 10mm. Wire is the same thing. Sizing stock is ordered by mm., not guage. Don't let them bully you when they order. They got hung by the refinery and have a lot of heels to get rid of. Nobody is perfect, and somebody is at the end of the line. Never order by guage. They don't you shouldn't either. Never order a semiprecious stone by carat either. That is a trend that is becoming more and more common. Especially at trade shows. Ordering by carat can turn an 80$ Amythyst into a priceless heirloom without changing the stone. Effectively Caveat Emptor. Great site. Good luck. I hope you reach a lot of people. Art is like love. You cannot keep it unless you give it away. Not your work, your wisdom. Great luck.
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Post by nancyf on Nov 29, 2007 16:57:40 GMT -5
First of all...THANKS! I do indeed like to help people when I can. I have taken note of what you have said. I knew this, yet I failed to let the newbie know about it. I will do so I assure you. Thank you for giving me the kick in the patootie to get it done soon! ;D
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Post by granpaw on Nov 30, 2007 14:29:27 GMT -5
Yes! lots of great helpful info here.. Thanks!..Maybe someday I can contribute to others as you all are doing.
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