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Post by Condor on Mar 26, 2005 19:09:39 GMT -5
Man, for the last several times, I have gone out to my backyard to clean or break rocks, and what does my crazy dog do? After I'm done, he goes and pees where I had cleaned the rocks. No problem. Later, after I'm done breaking rocks, he goes and poops at that place. No problem. I just rake and clean up the area then move somewhere else. Lo and behold, there goes that stubby-legged, oversized rat and does his thing again. I look at him, and he gives me this grin as if to say, "break and clean all the rocks you want, Bud, because after you're done I'm going to poop and pee all over that area too." This is war! We'll see what kind of a polish he takes!
Condor
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Post by Cher on Mar 26, 2005 19:42:53 GMT -5
LOL ... That's funny!!
Cher
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Post by krazydiamond on Mar 26, 2005 19:48:03 GMT -5
rofl, dachsundhite, MOH 5.5..bark and roll.
KD
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Post by Duckbean on Mar 26, 2005 21:06:03 GMT -5
Condor, you don't let him stay up late and watchh Late Night with Conan o'brien! Sounds like he's been watching Triumph the insult comic dog. If so your not gonna win! His catch phrase is "For Me To Poop On" Bob
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Post by cookie3rocks on Mar 26, 2005 22:47:22 GMT -5
Hey, the house is yours, the yard is HIS!!! He'll show you, by golly cookie
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Post by BearCreekLapidary on Mar 27, 2005 1:01:24 GMT -5
Hey Condor,
I will tell you little story that stopped our dog from peeing on my wife's rose bushes ... and yes, this is really going to upset some people ... but it does work.
You have to first understand the role of the rose bushes. Every time a family member passes away, we plant a rose bush in their memory and each year we are reminded of the life that we so dearly miss in the new born flowers that arrive each spring. Its our way of remembering passed family, in our own way.
The rose bush our dog was peeing on was the rose bush that represented my wife's father, my father-in-law. A man that was more of a father to me than my own father ... but, we are not going there! Every time we let the dog out ... yup, you go it ... right to the rose bush and peed all over it ... when this was happening day after day ... the rose bush started to die itself.
So, to rectify this ... I put a small screen of chicken wire below the rose bush and attached an extension cord to it. Yes, I cut and stripped the wires bare and attached it to the wire. Then when the dog was raising his leg to once again pee on the bush ... I simply plugged the extension cord in ... about the time that the pee had hit the ground the dog was quickly knocked back about four feet ... I know that this is harsh and some of you will call me one of the most rotten individuals that you have ever met ... it's not that we made him stay there ... he got a shock and learned a very good lesson. That has been 6 years ago (when we got our dog - my father-in-law has been gone for 12 years now) and to this day ... our dog will not even think about peeing on one of the rose bushes.
Okay ... I am a horses _ss to some of you ... but what was I to do? Dicipline was not doing the trick, training was not doing the trick, we even put a small fence around the rose bush ... but, he constantly peed on the rose bush ... no matter what we done. We could have planted another rose bush ... but after taking care of that bush for 12 years ... you kind of get attched to the sentimental aspect of the rose bush.
This was a one time thing ... and I have never had to do it again. It was either get rid of the dog or lose a rose bush - not just a rose bush ... but the rose bush that was planted in my father-in-laws honor.
Our dog, he is fine and laying beside me as I type this message. I can tell you that our dog is treated better than most people. He is and always will be a part of this family.
John
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Post by Cher on Mar 27, 2005 9:14:16 GMT -5
Amazing how a little zap will teach them right from wrong. I'm glad you saved your roses and your dog. Nope, I don't think you're an ******* John, you taught your dog a lesson that didn't require you being out there beating the crap out of him on a daily basis like some other people do with theirs.
Cher
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Post by JKowalski33 on Mar 27, 2005 13:11:32 GMT -5
yeah I don't think any worse than I already did (kidding) about you. Dogs will just be dogs sometimes, and do whatever pleases them. He just had to be told how it is, and he's fine anyways, so no harm done
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Post by BearCreekLapidary on Mar 27, 2005 14:33:28 GMT -5
Hey everyone, If there is one thing that gets me from zero to boiling mad ... is people who beat their animals. I was raised in a very abusive family ... step father was a bad alcoholic ... come home and beat my Mother ... many times so bad that we would have to call an ambulance. This started when I was around 9 years old when my Mom re-married ... and I was no match for my step fathers size or strengths. Then to whitness this two or three times a week ... well it doesn't take much to get me from zero to boiling ... thankfully, my Mom was able to get out of that situation. As a matter of fact ... it took both me and my step father ending up in the hospital to get that situation to come to a close ... but, it was definitely worth the trip ;D Let's just say that I finally got big enough to stand up to the situation ... and although I ended up in the hospital ... so did he and I did not have to wear a cast for six weeks on my leg ;D Zero tollerance for any abuse at all. Enjoy the weekend, John
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Post by krazydiamond on Mar 27, 2005 15:15:02 GMT -5
people that mistreat animals should be put in jail, harshly fined and prevented from ever owning a pet again.
people that prey on children, abuse or pyschologically damage them should be put in jail or depending on the severity of the crime, terminated with malice.
sorry to hear you had an abuser in your life, Bear. cool deal with the rosebush tho, that is the basis of electric fences, so i don't consider that abuse. dogs are fairly smart and learn good lessons.
i think that is a really nice tradition with the roses.
sorry for the rant, my 2 cents,
KD
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Post by creativeminded on Mar 28, 2005 10:24:12 GMT -5
Hey at least he is doing it outside and not inside the house. Of course that means you can't clean or break rocks in the house.LOL.....LOL.....LOL Bear as for what you did, I don't think it is any different than cattlemen using electric fences to keep the cattle in the pasture. I think you did the right thing with your dog. Tami
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Post by stefan on Mar 28, 2005 12:54:05 GMT -5
LMAO at the dog not the abuse- Basically a Shock collar for his weewee! Ok here is a good story - we installed on of those Underground boundry systems for my dogs- well I was not sure if the shock collar was working so I grabbed it and tried to walk through the boundry! YUP I got Zapped- I dropped the collar and my daughter grabbed it! She got zapped also (but did not cry- just dropped the collar and said- ouchy daddy! so what do I do? Of course- grab the stupid electrodes once again! My wife was LHAO at me and picked up the collar by the fabric part and says -see it doesn't zap me!
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Post by BearCreekLapidary on Mar 28, 2005 18:12:15 GMT -5
Hi Stefan,
We purchased a shock colar for our dog ... but, before I would put it on him ... I wanted to see just how bad it was ...
I held it in my hand and turned it on low ... not bad ... then onto medium ... oh yea, I can definitely feel that ... and when it's on high ... it can make my muscles contract severely ... so I melted the plastic and made a stop on the hand held device ... so, that it doesn't ever get to the high position.
I didn't buy the think for electro shock therapy ... just to get his attention.
John
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Post by Cher on Mar 28, 2005 19:08:23 GMT -5
Stefan that is hilarious! Your wife should have had a video camera, that would have won funniest home videos.
I had an electric fence for my horses when I had them. My neighbor, an old guy who was just a hoot, was out in his garden with his grandson and the kid kept yelling he had to pee. Grandpa told him to quit yelling and go in the house before he wet himself. The kid, (a little snot) just kept bugging his grandpa, saying you take me or I'm going to pee outside. So, his grandpa told him to go over in the long grass and pee by the fence. The kid, being so happy that he could pee outside ran over there and started peeing.
Could he just pee BY the fence tho? Noooooo he had to pee on the fence and got his little tallywhacker zapped. I thought his grandpa would die laughing cause the funniest part was, he didn't do it just once. After he got over the first shock, he peed on it again. Fortunately my charger was one that sent short jolts, not a continual current.
Cher
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Post by joanna on Mar 29, 2005 6:39:22 GMT -5
The way I see it, the good old shock collar saved our hyper German Shorthair's life. There is no way we would have been able to handle her with out it (besides the point she would have ran under a vehicle or tractor a long time ago). Now days we just put it on her and leave the remote behind and she's great. Heck we have a collar with a block of wood on and when she wears that she behaves wonderful.
I have her "working" in my shop. I trained her to throw away wood scraps and bits of paper for a piece of dog food. One day she was really busy and I kept hearing a clunk in the garbage can. Toss her a treat, whatever. After about 5 more clunks I thought "What's the deal the shop should be pretty clean today?" Turns out she found one of my buckets rocks and she was grabbing those and throwing them into the garbage. Have to cover all bucket that are on the floor now. She brings them in from the driveway now (nothing worth saving, I checked). I guess you could call her a rock hound, Huh? (More like a rock retriver, though) Now if I could get her to pick up in the house.
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Post by chassroc on Mar 29, 2005 9:30:18 GMT -5
Dogs have always scared the hell out of me. (incident with a Boxer in a narrow alleyway when I was 4.), but I certainly advocate for ethical treatment of animals(and people too)...sometimes tough love is necessary for the sake of animals and people...hey we all learn best from fear, right? csroc
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Post by americanbulldogsnj on Mar 29, 2005 9:54:34 GMT -5
I've been training dogs for over 10 years, and bar none the best deterent is the anoymous type. I call this type of training anoymous because the dog does not know you were behind it. I use remote correction collars when some of my dogs start acting up digging holes, barking excessivly, basically doing stupid sh**! I put the remote correction collar on them and watch them from the window, when I catch them in the act I correct them. Then I go out about a minute or so later and the dog runs up to me like "did you see what just happend?, i'm so glad you're here you're my hero!" It's funny stuff and very effective. I like the fact that the dog does not see you as the bad guy, and thus learns on their own to curb bad behaviors without becoming handler sensitive. Dude no harm no foul with your fence idea, I'd be pi**ed too (yep pun intended) about the roses, I love my garden! Marian
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Post by stefan on Mar 29, 2005 11:43:43 GMT -5
Joanna That was classic! Loved it! I love my dogs dearly- They go camping with us- they are so good with the kids- and they are pretty well behaved- Now if only I could get the kids to behave as well!
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Post by gaetzchamp on Mar 29, 2005 12:03:21 GMT -5
Stefan-
Yea, that is pretty funny. I may have to hire a nanny or babysitter to come to my house to kick "kiddie hiney" once in a while, then I can come to the rescue. LOL
I love the annonymous factor!!!
Gaetz
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Post by gaetzchamp on Mar 29, 2005 12:14:13 GMT -5
Bear-
Bet you wished you'd thought of putting up the chicken wire fence on the potty when your "a-hole" stepfather went to take a leak on it. I would've paid top dollar to see that little worm get zapped.
Gaetz
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