unclestu
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Post by unclestu on Dec 29, 2011 18:20:56 GMT -5
I saw this on my computer and I had to laugh. California in all it's wisdom has now made a law that goes into effect on January 1st which mandates that children up to the age of 8 years old or 4'9" tall must sit in a child safety seat while traveling in a car. Prior to this it was up to 6 years old. Poor seven year olds have to go back to the baby seat the shame of it all. LOL I don't know if all of this over protection is such a good thing. When I was a kid our cars didn't have padded dashes and I didn't sit in a car seat once I got past the age of being carted around in a stroller. Today the kids all wear these silly helmets when they ride their bikes. Hell I even saw a kid with training wheels wearing a helmet the other day. LOL When I was a kid we all used to do wheelies on our bikes and wore no helmets. I don't recall any of us having any head injuries yet now all the kids wear these helmets. I just think all of this over protection is breading weaker less self reliant kids. Stu a.abcnews.com/US/california-mandates-car-seats-kids-years/story?id=15253448
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Dec 29, 2011 18:32:50 GMT -5
Yup, welcome to the wussification of America. Of course Commiefornia is worse than most and cities worse still. Out in rural America kids are still allowed to grow up right. At least those that survive horses, tractors, guns, and running free in the world *L*.....Mel
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Post by texaswoodie on Dec 29, 2011 19:21:10 GMT -5
Yep, I been screaming this for years. EVERY cotton pickin' time the government "protects" us, we loose freedoms. I've given up on Dumassfornia. As far as I'm concerned, they are part of some other country.
When I was a kid if you had worn one of those bike helmets, you wudda got the crap kicked out of you. I hit a dog one time, did a complete flip and landed in the middle of a cattle-guard upside down. That was one of the more minor wrecks I had.
Dad's arm was the only seat belt we ever had and never even heard of a car seat. plus the fact that Dad was a shade tree mechanic. The best of our cars were jalopies with no brakes and bald tires.
Curt
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Post by BuiltonRock on Dec 29, 2011 19:26:08 GMT -5
The Wussification of America is right. Peyton is 6 and helped me put Christmas lights on the house. Thats right. 6 years old and up on the roof. Holy smoke! Somebody call Social Services!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! John PS- He was up ther last year too!
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Post by texaswoodie on Dec 29, 2011 19:31:50 GMT -5
Hmmm, do I sound like an old goat?
I sure hope so!
Curt
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Post by jakesrocks on Dec 29, 2011 19:35:46 GMT -5
My oldest boy had his first mini bike by the time he was 6. And I had both of my boys rock climbing with me by the time they were 7 & 8. I hand made climbing harnesses for both of them.
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Post by NDK on Dec 29, 2011 20:59:15 GMT -5
They got some BS law like that here in Wisconsin too. If they really enforced it, I know a few grown women that wouldn't ever be out of a booster seat. I can't say I disagree with seat belts. They are designed to work in conjunction with air bags etc. Cars used to be made of real steel too, not the paper thin crap they're built with today. Ever wonder why there's so many sharp bends in the car's designs now? It strengthens the flimsy metal. Hell, many are made of plastic...
Nate
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Post by talkingstones on Dec 29, 2011 22:28:46 GMT -5
Don't get me started......
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Post by tntmom on Dec 29, 2011 22:35:23 GMT -5
Yep, absolutely!!! The new laws within the last few years are crazy. Shoot.... My third grader Brooke three years back (she's 6th grade now and towers over me) was taller than me but weighed less than a feather. I was supposed to put her in a car seat because she wasn't old enough or weighed enough. What? If either of us would have been safer in a wreck with an air bag.... it would have been her! She had the height, more than me, that is required for safety! I've never got a ticket or been pulled over so I took my chances and didn't embarrass her by pulling out the baby seat. Another law that gets me is that WA state has decided that a 16 year old kid that passes his written test and his driving test with flying colors is not allowed to get a license unless they present a state approved drivers ed certificate which costs around $350 to $500 for the class. If they can't provide a certificate then they will not be issued a license until they are 18. That's not fair!!! All I had to do as a kid was pass the tests and prove that I was a responsible driver. It's unfathomable that I should have to pay $500 extra for my kid to get a license when the state has approved licenses for 16 year olds. Taking my second oldest son tomorrow for his permit...... Too many rules.... www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/teens.html
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Post by Toad on Dec 29, 2011 23:24:29 GMT -5
My boy wears a helmet when biking because I tell him to - not big brother. I wear one too. I personally think it is foolish to ride a bike without one, but I don't tell anyone else what they should do and neither should the government.
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Post by mohs on Dec 29, 2011 23:56:16 GMT -5
i was over protected as a child it shows in my shyness mostly
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Post by texaswoodie on Dec 30, 2011 7:56:53 GMT -5
You know, I did have a head injury that has affected me all my life but it wasn't from a bicycle, motorcycle, car wreck. It was from a durn cow. I guess I should have been wearing a helmet when I was milking those cows.
Curt
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unclestu
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Post by unclestu on Dec 30, 2011 8:44:24 GMT -5
When I was a kid I hated having to drink milk (unless it was chocolate). If I knew that you had been injured by a cow I would have told my mother that milk was hazardous to your health LOL
Stru
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Post by nuevomundo on Dec 30, 2011 9:30:35 GMT -5
It is not just kids these days... we are keeping our kids around too long and not letting them become their own adults. How sad is it that these days most folks aren't truly independent of their parents until their mid-20s or even 30s. This has nothing to do with our government, but rather with our culture. How many of the Greatest Generation do you think came back from WWII and went back to live in their parents' basement for another decade? I am willing to bet not so many. That generation got a lesson about sacrifice and responsibility early on...
I get a bit fed up with this too. I sometimes got treated in a rather patronizing way, or received a lot of unsolicited parenting advice, because I became a father at 21. I often had to bite my tongue and keep from laughing. These folks see their own kids, nephews, etc and know they are nowhere NEAR being responsible adults at 21. But people seem to forget that 200 years ago, 21 would be about mid-life. The fact that someone so 'young' might actually be on top of it is just such an incredible idea for so many people. Our 21 year-olds SHOULD be proper, responsible adults who are capable of caring for themselves and others! There is no reason to be extending our children's childhood/adolescence into their late '20's and 30's. Frankly I think such patterns reflect a failure on the parents' part to properly prepare their child for life outside the nest.
STOP INFANTALIZING YOUR CHILDREN!
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Dec 30, 2011 10:30:54 GMT -5
Nuevo is dead on. Parents are letting the kids stay at home way too long. I was married at 20 while still in college, had a full time profession by age 23 and my first home and a sailboat by 25. My nephew is still living with his folks, has no job, no woman and if he's not careful, no future and he's almost 30. That is friggin ridiculous! Kid's need to leave the nest and go out and make their own lives, not be permanent parasites on their parents......Mel
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Post by jakesrocks on Dec 30, 2011 10:54:59 GMT -5
Ain't that the truth. I was out before my 18th birthday and in the Navy. Except for a couple short visits, I didn't live in my parents house again. I even lived out of a van for a while, and worked any crappy job I could find, rather than admit defeat. Don
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Post by grayfingers on Dec 30, 2011 11:04:17 GMT -5
I agree that America (especially guys) have been wussified. It disgusts me to see how many young men are being raised to be overly sensitive, whining wimps that have never had to learn self-reliance or how to work. I was raised by parents that were both born in cabins on homesteads during the depression, and I had it a lot easier than they did. That is why if you look at a picture of a high school kid from those days, you are looking at an adult that was more mature than most people today will ever be. Now, there are several generations that have been raised by parents who never learned maturity or self-reliance, and we are reaping the bitter harvest.
My parents were concerned that modern living would produce a soft generation, and that was in the 1960's. We were not coddled, we were taught responsibility, and that actions (or inaction) have consequences, and that you alone are responsible for making your way in life. (The world doesn't owe you a living)
When I was 8 years old I drove a 1948 Dodge farm truck for a haying crew. I was too small to buck bales of alfalfa, so I drove the truck. Had to stand on the floorboard to reach the pedals. When my folks would (infrequently) leave town for a weekend, they would leave me and my brother home alone, and I did the cooking.
At age 12, I was allowed to go on a week long backpacking trip with a friend of the same age. It was bear country, and we both carried guns. We even had a bear come through our camp one night. I had a trapline at age 12 as well, would ride my bicycle out of town every afternoon (through the snow) after school to check the traps, arriving home after dark. I also shoveled snow before school in the mornings, getting up by 5 am to get them done before school. I could go on and on... The following summers, I lived on a horse ranch, where I broke Quarter horses. I was bit, kicked, stomped and rolled over. All these things would be considered child abuse now of days. I left home at age 16, got a job and never asked my parents for a handout.
Bill
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Post by chassroc on Dec 30, 2011 11:14:03 GMT -5
I read that yesterday morning and was thinking...california does it again, however, the most incredible part of it, if I remember correctly, is that California is the 30th state to choose the 4'9" requirement!
charlie
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Post by Fossilman on Dec 30, 2011 12:51:30 GMT -5
I taught my kids respect...Never mouth your adults and to put money in your pockets by earning it! They got spankings(when needed)..Grounded (when needed)...Also taught at a young age to do chores,to shoot rifles,hunt,fish,work on cars(both girls and boys)... Advice when needed,hugged and loved when needed.. All graduated school,left the house at 19 years old,got jobs and struggled at first,but figured out what its all about! Now I'm helping with our grandkids and as we told our kids,it will be the same treatment as you all got..........(It was all thumbs up).. We don't baby any children,but we don't abuse them either-teach them young,let them learn,love them,let them go when they think they are ready.... All our kids know the door is always open,but its only a short stay,no moving back in-LOL......... Yes in my opinion children now days are over protected!!!
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Post by Toad on Dec 30, 2011 14:21:17 GMT -5
Great discussion all...
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