cccbock
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Genie
Feb 14, 2012 10:47:03 GMT -5
Post by cccbock on Feb 14, 2012 10:47:03 GMT -5
OK one of you Genie owners out there likely has the answer to this next question right on the tip of your tongue...lol.....What is the shaft length of the Genie?......
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Genie
Feb 15, 2012 19:47:12 GMT -5
Post by krazydiamond on Feb 15, 2012 19:47:12 GMT -5
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rocpup
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Genie
Feb 16, 2012 9:50:17 GMT -5
Post by rocpup on Feb 16, 2012 9:50:17 GMT -5
Without taking off the wheels it looks to be about six inches on both sides of the motor. If you tell us why you need to know maybe someone has a answer for that too. Don
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cccbock
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Genie
Feb 17, 2012 8:32:54 GMT -5
Post by cccbock on Feb 17, 2012 8:32:54 GMT -5
I already have a pdf of their catalog...it does not say in it how long the shafts are.....
ohh.....I dont think I can tell you why.......it's a secret......lol lol...........
seriously though , I was looking at the pics of the genies and all they are are a long shaft grinder/ buffer motor with the wheels and gaurds added......I just wondered how long the shafts were so I knew what to look for when I start looking for a motor to base a home built "genie" on......just from looking at the pics I can see that with the three 6X1 1/2 wheels that the shafts have to be at least 6 1/2 inches to accomodate the wheels and have at least an inch between them. Now considering there looks to be a thrust bearing next to the motor housing the shaft would need to be another 3/8 inch or so. Lastly you have to have at least a half inch of threads on the end of the shaft for the end nut. Since I could not find , either by reason of my own failure to look close enough or that it's just not in the catalog , the diminsions of the shaft I thought I would ask a bunch of folks who use the genie every day...........
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cccbock
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Genie
Feb 17, 2012 8:35:55 GMT -5
Post by cccbock on Feb 17, 2012 8:35:55 GMT -5
all total the shaft looks like it needs to be about 7 1/2 inches......
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Genie
Feb 17, 2012 9:25:23 GMT -5
Post by jakesrocks on Feb 17, 2012 9:25:23 GMT -5
The thrust bearing you speak of is only a stepped nylon washer, which fits partially into the end of the motor housing. Only about 1/8" sticks out of the housing. The total length motor and all is 25-1/8" with 7" of shaft sticking out on either side of the motor. I'd extend it out to at least 9" on either side to give more room between the wheels. Don
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Genie
Feb 17, 2012 9:42:42 GMT -5
Post by johnjsgems on Feb 17, 2012 9:42:42 GMT -5
Genie has a 1" shaft adapter that screws onto the actual motor shafts. I'm not home or I would measure both for you. Diamond Pacific uses an O.E.M. (original equipment manufacture) Baldor motor made especially for them. I know of another company making a similar unit. They had Baldor make motors for them to their specs. I think you have to order 500 motors to do this. If you can find a decent double shafted motor to make your own I would advise finding a motor with the largest shaft possible (both length and diameter). An easier home build would be a heavy duty arbor with a longer shaft belt driven by a standard motor. The Chinese CabKing copy of the Genie Chinese motor is still something like $350. Genie motor lists for $450.
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Genie
Feb 17, 2012 10:19:08 GMT -5
Post by jakesrocks on Feb 17, 2012 10:19:08 GMT -5
On the Genie, there is 13/16" between the hard Galaxy wheels. Everything after that measures 5/8". If I had designed the Genie, I would have used a longer shaft with at least 1" between all wheels. The actual arbor shaft on the Genie is 5/8". Like John says, if you're building your own, go with a heavier shaft. I'd go with 1" cold rolled steel, or stainless steel. You could build it as long as you wanted it and give yourself plenty of room between the wheels.
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cccbock
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Genie
Feb 17, 2012 18:27:48 GMT -5
Post by cccbock on Feb 17, 2012 18:27:48 GMT -5
I am in the process of building my own cabbing machine ...I've already bought the diamond wheels , a leather spin on disk, dop wax and cerium oxide...wheels are 100 / 220 hard wheels and 280,600,1200 and 3000 soft diamond wheels......not galaxy and not nova......I picked up pillow block bearings at the local hardware star.....and ordered a 6 wheel shaft from lortone........for the shaft I also ordered the end nuts an a pulley........the reason I asked about the genie shaft lenth is because I saw long shafted buffer motors online and was wondering why folks were not just buying those and putting wheels on them to in effect create homemade genies.............something I will likely try at some point in the future..........once I get my machine all together this will be my first attempt at cabbing...................
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Genie
Feb 17, 2012 18:41:37 GMT -5
Post by jakesrocks on Feb 17, 2012 18:41:37 GMT -5
Why don't you post a link for those buffer motors ? There are some on here that might be interested in trying one. We can also look them over and make sure they're safe for lapidary use.
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isellwood
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Genie
Feb 17, 2012 19:20:12 GMT -5
Post by isellwood on Feb 17, 2012 19:20:12 GMT -5
I used a buffer motor to build a cabbing unit, it works great. You can see I fit 3 expando's on each side.
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cccbock
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Genie
Feb 18, 2012 7:56:56 GMT -5
Post by cccbock on Feb 18, 2012 7:56:56 GMT -5
isellwood just posted a pic something like what I had in mind......as far as links go just google buffer motor or go to ebay and look up buffer motor and you will see buffers simillar to what isellwood has posted....
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Genie
Feb 18, 2012 13:04:51 GMT -5
Post by roy on Feb 18, 2012 13:04:51 GMT -5
the jet motor make a nice set up how well will it hold up
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