Saskrock
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Post by Saskrock on Apr 2, 2012 1:28:57 GMT -5
Just wondering if anyone has ever gone to a local autobody shop to see if you could get something fordite like? Maybe they don't get buildup like that, but just curious.
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Post by Bikerrandy on Apr 2, 2012 4:50:22 GMT -5
Problem with new paints is they are too flexible, unlike the old paints. A chunk of what they use today is like hard rubber.
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textiger
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Post by textiger on Apr 2, 2012 7:39:45 GMT -5
Someone on here posted pix of what they called "boatite" made from old paint from a boat painting/refurbishing business. I don't recall if there was any indication that it was old, old paint or if the fact that it was marine paint made to stand up to water made it more suitable for cutting.
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peachfront
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Post by peachfront on Apr 2, 2012 8:29:26 GMT -5
The laws changed about painting cars and the environmental protection procedures, so that's why there are no more $79 paint jobs and no more build-up of layers upon layers of colorful paint and that's why all cars are white or gray or if the car is feeling REALLY rambunctious it might be red...When I went shopping for my new car in September, I thought about getting an orange car. Then I found out it would cost me $8K more than if I just got gray like everybody else. Well, you can't justify $8K to be orange instead of gray. Sigh!!! Someone, maybe MSN.com, published a WAY too long essay on why painting autos is so different from the 60s and 70s but I didn't assimilate the whole long story. Short answer, though, genuine Fordite is definitely a thing of the past. If your local auto guy is allowing all kinds of crazy paint build-up, he probably isn't highly likely to admit to it or want it publicized. I'd try to google for that article again but I'm out the door to t he doctor's office. Maybe I'll find it for you later.
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brent
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Post by brent on Apr 2, 2012 9:01:34 GMT -5
In the late 70's the industry was switching from enamel to acrylic enamel. I painted my first car with enamel and then all after that was acrylic. Now they are switching to water based paints. The acylics are more flexible. Laquer would be a better choice for "fordite". I have a gallon of left over laquer that I should do something with.
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Post by NatureNut on Apr 2, 2012 10:48:35 GMT -5
I've wondered this myself. Why can't one use some enamel artist's paints and an oven to create a small block of "Paintite"? Jo
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Post by rockpickerforever on Apr 2, 2012 13:01:32 GMT -5
Even after reading all the posts, I wasn't 100% sure what "Fordite" was - had to Google it! It would most likely be softer, but an alternative may be colored resin layers on the floor of a surfboard shop. Not sure how it would polish up, but it's very pretty when sliced sideways. I'm sure the surf shops used to just scrape it loose occassionally and send it to the dump. The EPA may have them jumping through hoops now...
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Post by mohs on Apr 2, 2012 13:08:47 GMT -5
That's a great idea Jo hhhmmmm...
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Post by rockjunquie on Apr 2, 2012 19:01:01 GMT -5
Yeah, the laws have changed and so has the paint. I believe and may be wrong that Fordite and Detroit agate are made from lacquer layers. Lacquer is hard and takes a glassy polish. Nowadays, they use a base coat and finish with a clear top coat- unless that has changed as well. The base coat (color) can not be polished to a shine. So, it wouldn't make nice cabs.
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Post by NatureNut on Apr 2, 2012 20:19:45 GMT -5
Artistite?
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RocknCritter
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Post by RocknCritter on Apr 2, 2012 20:23:24 GMT -5
Keep an eye on eBay. Recently there's been a seller that has listed a material very similar to what you are looking for as a substitute. It's advertised as being similar yet different than Fordite. I think the guy is taking some type of acrylic (?) paint and baking it to achieve the end result. the colors looked a little brighter than the normal Fordite. I've been tempted to buy a piece.
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Post by NatureNut on Apr 2, 2012 20:25:30 GMT -5
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RocknCritter
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Post by RocknCritter on Apr 2, 2012 20:29:14 GMT -5
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Post by Rockoonz on Apr 2, 2012 21:01:30 GMT -5
I was fortunate to get some from the racks they use to roll Freightliner trucks through the paint process. Whatever it is, it's nice and hard, not flexible like the modern acrylics and urethanes. I call it Semite (you know, from a semi) If you don't like it I guess that makes you anti-semite. Lee
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Saskrock
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Post by Saskrock on Apr 2, 2012 23:54:22 GMT -5
Well that explains why I couldn't find anything on auto body paint, might have to try the artist paint like Jo said.
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