Saskrock
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Post by Saskrock on Apr 19, 2012 17:59:16 GMT -5
I just finished my first home made fordite/detroit agate cab. I made it by using a 1/8" thick piece of stainless steel (I thought that would save a lot of time painting.) that I built up layers of testors enamel model paint on. I baked it in a oven on each layer. When I thought it was thick enough I cabbed it normally. Its not really rounded over enough really but the paint isn't thick enough for more curve. I have 3 more to the same paint thickness that I will keep on building up. Thicker should result in more and smaller banding. Its a little too much on primary colors (I bought the cheapest paint set in case it didn't work) and I don't think I like the silver paint (no more layers of that) but not bad for a first attempt. If you try this though keep in mind it takes a whole lot of paint layers even with the stainless. I probably have 100 layers on this, it takes a really long time.
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Post by FrogAndBearCreations on Apr 19, 2012 18:07:38 GMT -5
That is pretty cool though!
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Post by Donnie's Rocky Treasures on Apr 19, 2012 18:45:08 GMT -5
That's pretty cool! I like the silver in it!
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Post by Toad on Apr 19, 2012 18:57:35 GMT -5
Looks great, when do you start the next one?
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Post by susand24224 on Apr 19, 2012 22:23:42 GMT -5
I had no idea that could be done. It is more than an admirable first attempt--I'm looking forward to watching you "perfect" your technique.
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Post by NatureNut on Apr 19, 2012 22:25:26 GMT -5
Yeah Scott!!! That looks awesome! I knew you'd think of a way to do it. What temperature did you use and how long a bake? Was that your first try? I'm with Donnie, I kinda like the silver. Jo
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Saskrock
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Post by Saskrock on Apr 19, 2012 23:01:19 GMT -5
I have 3 more on the go so that means at my painting rate they will be ready to cab in a week or two. I have been cooking them at 170 deg C (338 deg F) for about 15 minutes a layer. If your going to try it you will need a small well insulated oven or really deep pockets. Obviously I have the small oven or I could just buy some fordite. This is actually my third try, just first try with this method. First try was no baking, that is a disaster it gets bubbly and never hardens properly. The second try was paint only baked. I didn't think I would live long enough to finish that so that's when I added in the 1/8" metal. Anything that can take the temperature would work though. This really makes you realize just how many cars had to be painted to get a piece of fordite.
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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 19, 2012 23:04:09 GMT -5
Interesting experiment. I'm with Jo. How long of a bake time, and what temp ? Is there a reason you used Testors enamel ?
Don
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Saskrock
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Post by Saskrock on Apr 19, 2012 23:08:18 GMT -5
Just used Testors enamel because I knew it was enamel from doing models as a kid and it has to be enamel as it gets really hard (as paint goes). Modern paint is too flexible. 170 deg C / 15 min
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Post by christopherl1234 on Apr 19, 2012 23:20:46 GMT -5
Pretty cool.
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Post by Tony W on Apr 19, 2012 23:46:13 GMT -5
Nice! I used to paint floors in epoxy resin, and it would do great with this, as it was thick... if the dust didn't rot your lungs It was expensive, though it would go a long way, but the myriad of colors needed would be a problem, and it requires a hardener mix, and it heats up and sets fast. Hmmm...I'll have to ruminate on this. Definitely respirator stuff, unless you wanted a really sick drunk for a week. I used to use a variety of silk screen inks..enamels, plastics..hard drying stuff..I'll have to check what I have left. Maybe spray enamel with clear coat in between? Hmmmm... I've done paintings with house paint in layers, and then palm, or belt sanded down to reveal the coats, but that was on wood for a base. Ideally you'd want a yard rock cabbed, then layered, so you could just fine sand the paint off......... Hmmm.... Lay out a line of rocks and run the line with a spray can, over and over, and over and over.... I use a bonding primer from Sherwin Williams that will stick to air, so a base to start on isn't a problem, but what paints to use over it that will sand best....hmmmm. Thanks, like I needed another project, lol. T
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Saskrock
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Post by Saskrock on Apr 19, 2012 23:49:06 GMT -5
I just had a thought, if I start with a plain cab that is already shaped I shouldn't have to use anywhere near as much paint. I'm trying it tommorow.
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Post by helens on Apr 20, 2012 0:04:56 GMT -5
That looks awsome!!!!
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Post by mohs on Apr 20, 2012 1:04:01 GMT -5
That freaking fantabulous Sasrock !
You have googly eye'd happy heart face in there plus funky Phoenix rising paint on! Ed
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karock
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Post by karock on Apr 20, 2012 1:20:57 GMT -5
Wow! Looks like Ghosts rising from a firey pit - but it's a really cool cab. lol Karock
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karock
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Post by karock on Apr 20, 2012 1:21:53 GMT -5
Wow! Looks like Ghosts rising from a firey pit - but it's a really cool cab. lol Karock
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Post by NatureNut on Apr 20, 2012 5:50:00 GMT -5
Yeah but you're gonna have to watch that the cab doesn't crack from the heat. I think you might try for the hardest agate possible, or bring the heat up slowly with the cab in the oven. Jo
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cccbock
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Post by cccbock on Apr 20, 2012 6:21:32 GMT -5
Looks really cool........you must have extreme patience !!
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Post by textiger on Apr 20, 2012 7:32:36 GMT -5
Wow! That is terrific looking. What a great idea. Question: how many layers did you paint before you switched colors? Also, how did you sand/polish it (grits, hand or machine, etc)?
matt
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Saskrock
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Post by Saskrock on Apr 21, 2012 0:38:26 GMT -5
I got a few coats on a rough ground cab today. That temperature didn't seem to effect it at all.
I have been putting one coat per color, with blotches or stripes of color between coats. So solid layer, pattern, solid layer, patern, etc
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