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Post by helens on Nov 15, 2012 9:28:10 GMT -5
I know they can't leave, it would start a civil war in the states themselves without the Fed even getting involved. As noted, for every $1 in taxes most of those states pay, they get back $1.20-$1.70... all coming out of the rest of our pockets. It would become city vs city across the midwest and Texas itself (considering that in even those counties that went red, voting was split sooo close it was crazy).
I have no idea about other states, but the parts of Florida that went blue were all the parts with the money and higher taxes. Tampa, Orlando, Miami all blue, red parts of Florida have rural areas that are so unbelievably rural, they are still using outhouses and have no running water or electricity. When I first moved from the NE here, I was completely floored...I did not even think it still existed... driving through the middle of Florida heading south, you'd think you were in the plains of Africa, it all went dark at night, except near the highways, and a whole lot of dirt roads. And OUTHOUSES visible from yards... being used, people doing laundry in dirty ponds.
What's crazy is that those are the very areas we voted blue to help. While they themselves were tricked into voting to lose their own healthcare, social security and roads. Amazing. I will never get it.
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Post by helens on Nov 15, 2012 9:46:16 GMT -5
But actually, think of the Federal savings if we INSTANTLY did not have to pay another penny to the secessionist states for Social Security, Federal Pension, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Welfare. No more gov't checks to anyone in those states.
Nor would we have to spend another penny building infrastructure for them to have roads, bridges and tunnels, dams, water and air quality controls. Nor would we have to provide them with Airports, Air Traffic control, Post Office, USDA to protect their food, EPA to help clean up their oil leaks or environmental issues, park services, ranger services (to help people stranded in snows or mountains) or military protection. Every prison would empty because the Fed would no longer pay a dime to keep their prisoners, or transport them.
And their money would not be protected by the fed, so they can use gold nuggets, and the banks can charge them what they want in fees for usage, no more FDIC insurance for their money. They can live in Ethiopia USA like they wanted:).
They can pay in fresh to fund those services for their new Gov'ts from scratch... along with paying off their % of debt from the Deficit currently owed.
I suspect the fighting to stay in the Union would get really ugly really fast when it dawned on them what they would actually lose. No wonder people from other states are signing their petitions for them, hrm.
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fmelvis
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Post by fmelvis on Nov 15, 2012 10:04:55 GMT -5
hehe... thats right bushman, I sound like a whiny little bitch. Do you know how many times I wanted to cut my wrists when Chretien was in power? But I lived threw it and so will all the obama haters. So relax. Its only four years, then you get Hillary.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Nov 15, 2012 10:08:03 GMT -5
Not putting you down Elvis. I lived through the libs to. Try a NDP gov for 50 years.
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fmelvis
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Post by fmelvis on Nov 15, 2012 10:12:34 GMT -5
Oh right, sask. had ndp forever yes? God in heaven we had them for 5 years. For our american friends, pretend all the people in congress are from San Francisco.
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Post by helens on Nov 15, 2012 10:23:33 GMT -5
Better San Francisco than a Gulag in Siberia's idea of what the US needs.
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Post by parfive on Nov 15, 2012 12:20:58 GMT -5
The Pity Party Won’t Be Over Soon
WASHINGTON (AP) – A new round of petitions has sprung up in most of the former triangular trade states seeking to cancel Thanksgiving for the next four years. “This election is the end for traditional America,” said one megachurch pastor who wished to remain anonymous. “We simply have nothing left to be thankful for.”
Plans are also underway to boycott Black Friday at the nation’s malls. “That was a no-brainer,” said the pastor. “Every day feels black now and we don’t think Friday deserves special treatment.”
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