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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 27, 2013 10:42:16 GMT -5
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Post by FrogAndBearCreations on Mar 27, 2013 11:08:52 GMT -5
cool stuff!
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 27, 2013 15:19:05 GMT -5
Wow! Great couple of posts. You and I have definitely hunted some of the same spots. I have a cab cut from a piece identical to that in your pics 4-6 that I found out at the Mineola Rd dump in Yermo, CA. You've got some right fine root there in addition to bog too. I love the way your post shows the whole spectrum of what you'd find in an old palm forest that was burned down and covered with volcanic ash. Not much fiber because that was mostly burnt away but lots of the below ground stuff....Mel
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Post by johnjsgems on Mar 27, 2013 20:50:07 GMT -5
Yes Mel, looking out my window at the Yermo dump, Calico Mountains, and Green Ash Hills. All are good places to collect similar palm root and bog. A lot closer than Indian Pass too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 12:20:18 GMT -5
JOhn, can you get dumortierite at those mojave localities? That is why a trek to Indian Pass is my goal. Jean lives outside of San diego and Indian pass way closer than Barstow!
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Post by johnjsgems on Mar 28, 2013 12:40:14 GMT -5
No dumortierite here.
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Post by billg22 on Mar 28, 2013 12:51:27 GMT -5
Just where is Indian Pass? If it's near S.D., it may be a day trip for me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 13:02:31 GMT -5
it's a couple hours east of san diego. Jean posted GPS coords in another thread. Essentially it's off ogilvy road north of I-8
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 28, 2013 14:51:36 GMT -5
Bill, here's the coordinates I posted earlier: 33.01265 -114.77728. Yes, it is in the Gem Trails of Southern California book by Mitchell. It's actually listed as "Cargo Muchacho Mountains." It's on page 25 of the book I have, site B. Open up Google, then click on Maps. Enter the coordinates, hit enter. Then click on Get Directions, enter your address in box A, and it'll tell you how to get there, how many miles it is, and how long it will take you. For us San Diegans, we would just go out Highway 8 east to Ogilby Road, go north, then turn right on Indian Pass Road, and drive about 7 or so miles. Here's a link to the BLM page about the wilderness areas (Indian Pass and Picacho Peak) www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/prog/wilderness/wa/areas/indian_pass.html, and here's a link to the map of the Wilderness boundaries www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ca/pdf/pa/wilderness/maps_1page.Par.3482.File.dat/indian_pass.pdfThe wilderness areas are a little farther east than the coordinates given. Jean
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Post by billg22 on Mar 28, 2013 16:10:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. The pictures are great! They really make me want to drop what I'm doing and head out there.
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Post by billg22 on Mar 28, 2013 16:15:04 GMT -5
I just looked up the google map of the area. While I was looking up the roads I saw what looks like a pit. Looks real interesting. Attachments:
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Post by billg22 on Mar 28, 2013 16:19:06 GMT -5
The pit is at the top right of the picture. Your collecting site is at the bottom left. Makes me want to go on an adventure. Attachments:
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 28, 2013 16:29:44 GMT -5
Okay, not sure if the pit in the first pic is to the south of the collecting site? If so, it's most probably the American Girl Mine, which is an active gold mine as far as I know. It is a really cool area, with lots of stuff to see. As John said, there's a place called the Gold Rock Ranch, which has a little store, food and displays. That's on the west side of Ogilby Rd. On the east side is the old gold town of Tumco. Jean edit to add - coordinates for the American Girl Mine are 32.8553221 -114.7869039. I like to use mapper.acme.com/ for mapping. Just enter the coordinates, then hit find.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 28, 2013 16:38:11 GMT -5
Amazing, petrified burnt palm forest.You people are spoiled rotten.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 28, 2013 16:42:53 GMT -5
Say what? But we don't have coral up the wazoo. Oh wait, we got that too... just not big chunks like you got. LOL! Jean edit - Just came across this little tidbit on the BLM website. Should be plenty interesting for anyone interested in old mining areas /ghost towns. I've been out there before, but having a guide would be really cool! "TUMCO Interpretive Walk — Snapshots in Time" When: Saturday, April 6, 2013 Where: Meet at the Tumco Kiosk at 9:00 am. Who: 20 person limit, sign-up required.* Join a BLM Park Ranger for a free interpretive walk to explore the historic mining town of Tumco. Approximately 2.5 miles in length, the walk will take 3-4 hours as we explore remnants of town and mining life. Wear sturdy shoes, bring a hat, water, snacks and sunscreen. Be prepared for warm weather! From Interstate 8, follow Ogilby Road (S34) nine miles north . Turn east at the Tumco sign, and follow the dirt route (suitable for 2WD vehicles) approximately 1/4 mile to the parking area and kiosk. The walk will start here. Contact the El Centro Field Office at: 760-337-4400 for more information or to sign up. www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ca/pdf/elcentro/tio.Par.98121.File.dat/Tumco_Announce.pdfSo could do the 3-4 hour walk on Saturday, then go north a few miles, spend the night (it's all open BLM land, we've camped there several times) and hunt dumortierite, agates, jasper and bog rocks on Sunday........... Will have to ask the boss about this. Only a 20 person limit, may have to act fast. Jean
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Post by billg22 on Mar 28, 2013 18:20:13 GMT -5
The pit looks like its north east of the google coord.. It's looks pretty big.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 28, 2013 22:05:18 GMT -5
Bill, what's the coordinates of your pit? From the pic you posted, I think it's a small mountain! Jean
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Post by billg22 on Mar 29, 2013 11:29:39 GMT -5
The coord. you gave me were 33.01265 -114.77728. It's NE of the collecting area. The more I look at it, the shadow makes it look like a Mtn.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 29, 2013 15:19:47 GMT -5
Bill, I'm still looking NE of the coordinates I gave you and can't find what you are talking about. But you see what I mean, I don't think it's a hole, it's a mountain. The area has a lot of volcanic cones and plugs as well as buttes. I know there's a large open pit gold mine up by Glamis, but that's quite a ways to the northwest. For the collecting area, I think my coordinates were a little bit off (not much), here are the correct coordinates - N 32.98952 W 114.79855, it's not quite as far in as I had said. Here is a link to the page on ACME Mapper - mapper.acme.com/?ll=32.98952,-114.79863&z=14&t=R&marker0=32.93826%2C-114.86822%2C8.6%20mi%20NxNW%20of%20Ogilby%20CA&marker1=32.85532%2C-114.78691%2C32.8553221%20-114.7869039&marker2=32.98952%2C-114.79855%2C7.8%20mi%20SW%20of%20Imperial%20National%20Wildlife%20Refuge%20AZ It is in terrain view, and you can clearly see the wilderness area (Picacho Peak) to the south east of the road. So limit your collecting to the northwest side of the road. I understand the guy that leads the fieldtrips doesn't even drive in that far now. You can pretty much find stuff everywhere. What I like about ACME Mapper is that you can view in MAP, Satellite, Hybrid, Terrain, TOPO, DOQ, NEXRAD and Mapnik (whatever those last three are). If you see something that looks like a hole, you can switch to Terrain or TOPO, and see what you've really got. Another great thing is that you can mark locations (just center them under the crosshairs), and click mark. It will give you those coordinates, and tell you how far away and what the compass heading is to the previous mark. I've use ACME to find good rock hunting areas out n the desert. Find something that looks good, and get the coordinates, it's that easy. Jean
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Post by billg22 on Apr 2, 2013 16:16:58 GMT -5
Jean, thanks for the info. I think it may be some time after summer to make the trip. I try and stay out of the heat during the summer. It sounds like a great place to collect and am looking forward to giving it a shot. Thanks again! Bill
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