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Post by chassroc on Jul 25, 2013 7:22:25 GMT -5
Despite the best efforts of the Exxon/Mobi and BP and all those relentless Public Relations machines and attempts to rewrite history, the oil industry just cannot catch a break, First its all those darn pipelines leaking into the environment...Then its those darn trains running away and ruining Canadian towns(with US oil, no less!). Now it's the safe Gulf of Mexico wells acting up and exploding on their own...Oh yeah...and the bigger the US supply of oil gets, the higher the prices go...$4/gallon gas seems inevitable this year
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Post by Sabre52 on Jul 25, 2013 8:50:06 GMT -5
So Charlie, I assume from your bitching, you ride a bicycle everywhere you, have your own wind turbine/solar panels or heat your home by rubbing your ass cheeks together. Those of us who use petroleum products have to be partially responsible for the attendant risks, so why throw stones if we live in a glass house?. There are environmental problems associated with most energy sources....Mel
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Post by chassroc on Jul 25, 2013 10:40:33 GMT -5
So Charlie, I assume from your bitching, you ride a bicycle everywhere you, have your own wind turbine/solar panels or heat your home by rubbing your ass cheeks together. Those of us who use petroleum products have to be partially responsible for the attendant risks, so why throw stones if we live in a glass house?. There are environmental problems associated with most energy sources....Mel Mel Only an idiot would think that This is more a dig at our brother Billy and his frustration when anyone dares to question the motives or safety of his industry Charlie
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Post by jamesp on Jul 25, 2013 10:51:35 GMT -5
You jumped me for my posting motives. You need to leave poor brother Billy alone.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jul 25, 2013 11:13:53 GMT -5
Jim I like you but when you start believing the conspiracy nonsense of a Michael Savage or a weeping Glen Beck you lose all credibility. Charlie I never liked you but when you start believing the conspiracy nonsense of a Al Gore or a weeping David Suzuki you lose all credibility. Billy Btw Charles why is that Maine RR company hiding and not stepping up tp the plate to help them poor folks in Quebec. Officials in Lac-Mégantic, Que. have set a deadline for the US-based railway at the centre of the derailment that set off explosions and killed up to 47 people. The town says Montreal, Maine & Atlantic (MMA) has not paid workers who are cleaning up millions of litres crude oil that spilled in the disaster almost three weeks ago. When some of the workers threatened to walk out, the town paid them a total of four-million dollars. The town has sent a letter to MMA demanding to be reimbursed, and the letter calls on the railway to reply by 12 p.m. ET today. Meanwhile, preparations continue for Saturday's memorial service for the victims. Maine Governor Paul LePage will be among those at the service in Lac-Mégantic. © The Canadian Press, 2013 www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/story/2013/07/25/quebec-lac-megantic-railway-demands-mma-reimburse-millions.html
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jul 25, 2013 11:22:39 GMT -5
Charles you should go sky diving in a wind farm. You will get a birds eye point of view of the scam!!!!
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Post by Geoff on Jul 25, 2013 11:36:00 GMT -5
Gas has been $4 a gallon here for a while...
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Post by chassroc on Jul 25, 2013 11:54:07 GMT -5
You jumped me for my posting motives. You need to leave poor brother Billy alone. James ...you are right...Billy needs some TLC chahrlie
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Post by chassroc on Jul 25, 2013 11:56:00 GMT -5
"I never liked you but when you start believing the conspiracy nonsense of a Al Gore or a weeping David Suzuki you lose all credibility.
Billy"
You really have to dig for a reply at times...Al Gore !!! or even more obscure David Suzuki !!! is he a hero of yours?
charlie
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Post by jamesp on Jul 25, 2013 12:01:21 GMT -5
He is a contender Charlie. I spent my first 12 years career work under Canadians.
Loved em. Talk about speaking their minds.
But the beauty of it was they liked you to speak yours instead of retaliating in some sneaky ass way cause you hurt their feelings or rammed the painful truth in their face. Real freaking men let me tell you. A pitcher or two of beer w/the boss every lunch wasn't to bad either. Like I said, real freaking men. Loved em.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jul 25, 2013 12:18:03 GMT -5
"I never liked you but when you start believing the conspiracy nonsense of a Al Gore or a weeping David Suzuki you lose all credibility. Billy" You really have to dig for a reply at times...Al Gore !!! or even more obscure David Suzuki !!! is he a hero of yours? charlie I have to make my replies simple so you can understand them. The only reason you hate Glen Beck and Savage is that they exposed the truth about your beloved Barry and his corrupt friends. Sucks to have a prez that is ashamed of his real name and has to change it to become popular. But I guess Soetoro does not sound black enough.
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Post by chassroc on Jul 25, 2013 12:37:13 GMT -5
I have to make my replies simple so you can understand them. The only reason you hate Glen Beck and Savage is that they exposed the truth about your beloved Barry and his corrupt friends. Sucks to have a prez that is ashamed of his real name and has to change it to become popular. But I guess Soetoro does not sound black enough. Billy, You are outdoing yourself on conspiracy theories today! So now, the Obama birther conspiracy you are pushing is that the President, born as an Obama, to an Obama, is not "black enough" because he did not change his name to his Stepfathers name? Is this what Glen and Savage are spouting (and you are repeating?) Time to get a life Billy Charlie
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jul 25, 2013 12:47:09 GMT -5
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jul 25, 2013 13:57:33 GMT -5
So Charlie, I assume from your bitching, you ride a bicycle everywhere you, have your own wind turbine/solar panels or heat your home by rubbing your ass cheeks together. Those of us who use petroleum products have to be partially responsible for the attendant risks, so why throw stones if we live in a glass house?. There are environmental problems associated with most energy sources....Mel Mel Only an idiot would think that This is more a dig at our brother Billy and his frustration when anyone dares to question the motives or safety of his industry Charlie What do you do for a living Charles? Fill us in on how your job is not effected by oil or the industrial revolution. Remember being a professional whiner is not a job unless you are part of the occupy moment.
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Post by Rockoonz on Jul 25, 2013 14:20:07 GMT -5
Despite the best efforts of the Exxon/Mobi and BP and all those relentless Public Relations machines and attempts to rewrite history, the oil industry just cannot catch a break, First its all (Really, all?!?) those darn pipelines leaking into the environment...Then its those darn trains (Really, in plural?!?) running away and ruining Canadian towns(with US oil, no less!). Now it's the safe Gulf of Mexico wells acting up and exploding on their own...Oh yeah...and the bigger the US supply of oil gets, the higher the prices go...$4/gallon gas seems inevitable this year Charlie, in the past you have presented some clear arguments, even when I did not agree. Now you go and sound like a naggy spouse that only sees the negatives. (you ALWAYS do that) I would guess that for every gallon of oil spilled there are countless billions of gallons delivered safely to the destination, and what is spilled is mostly cleaned up with little or no problems. I even tend to agree with you on this issue. We have plenty of pipelines, not enough refineries, one or more should be built where the supply is rather than piping it to another antiquated, overtaxed refinery. Our high fuel prices are due to the short supply of reliable refineries, not the oil supply. Why send oil produced in N.Dakota to LA to be refined and put on trucks back up north. Lee
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Post by chassroc on Jul 25, 2013 15:12:37 GMT -5
"What do you do for a living Charles? Fill us in on how your job is not effected by oil or the industrial revolution. Remember being a professional whiner is not a job unless you are part of the occupy moment."
You're a funny guy Billy, I am a Software Developer - Business Analyst.
My job is affected by oil. How can anyone's job or life not be affected by oil? Where did you get that idea?
Professional Whiner, hardly...Unlike you I rarely complain about anything. I'm very happy about the shale revolution and Tar Sands; I like more energy supplies. Hell I even like nukes(NIMBY), lots of smart people in that industry, smarter than rocket scientists(perhaps an exagerration) I'd like to see it help keep prices reasonable.
It is ironic that supply and demand rarely seems to go hand and hand with energy prices.
My posts are quite benign but have a point...Exxon and Mobil have a huge PR machine. BP is passing itself off as the largest "Energy Investor" in the US. All because they like us and want to help us, I guess.
Charlie
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jul 25, 2013 15:30:26 GMT -5
Because of the volume that must be transported, pipelines are the only feasible method for moving the enormous quantities of petroleum America requires to keep going each day. Replacing even a modest-sized pipeline, which might transport 150,000 barrels per day, would require 750 tanker truck loads per day, a load delivered every two minutes around the clock. Replacing the same pipeline with railroad cars would require a 225-car train to arrive and be unloaded every day. In addition to their efficiency, pipelines also have important environmental and safety benefits. Compared to other inland transport modes, pipelines do not crowd our highways and rivers and they produce negligible air pollution. Pipelines also have a lower spill rate per barrel of oil transported than competing modes of transportation, namely trucks and barges. Tell me more about pipeline safety. Cost Efficiency Pipeline jobs require high-skilled workers and good wages. Petroleum pipelines depend on a relatively small national workforce of more than 11,000 skilled men and women, yet that workforce transports over 629.9 billion ton-miles of freight each year. A recent proposed pipeline project would create over 118,000 jobs and generate more than $585 million in state and local taxes for the states along the pipeline route Total Freight Transported Interstate pipelines deliver over 11.3 billion barrels of petroleum each year. (There are 42 gallons in a barrel.) About 52% of the petroleum transported by pipelines is crude oil and 47% is in the form of refined petroleum products. The cost to transport a barrel of petroleum products from Houston to the New York harbor is about $1, or about 2 1/2 ¢ per gallon at your local gasoline station. The price to transport petroleum products through pipelines does not change, regardless of fluctuations in the price of a gallon of gas. Tell me more about the economic regulation of pipelines. www.aopl.org/aboutPipelines/In the last decade, on average, 2.017 billion barrels of crude oil were produced domestically, and 4.082 billion barrels of crude oil and petroleum products were imported annually. For each barrel of crude oil either domestically produced or imported from foreign sources, 0.00003barrels spilled from all sources – of which 60.8%, or 0.00002 barrels, spilled from petroleum industry sources.
In the last decade, an average of 7.3 billion barrels1 of oil were “consumed” each year in the U.S. Oil consumption can be viewed as a measure of the amount of oil that is transported, stored, and handled each year. In the last decade, for every barrel of oil “consumed” in the U.S., 0.000027 barrels2 spilled from all sources and 0.000016 barrels spilled from petroleum industry sources. www.api.org/environment-health-and-safety/clean-water/oil-spill-prevention-and-response/~/media/93371edfb94c4b4d9c6bbc766f0c4a40.ashx
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 15:38:13 GMT -5
Charlie, I never got this thread. My feeble brain does not comprende.
Thread title is:
Did you mean for it to say ?
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Post by chassroc on Jul 26, 2013 6:48:26 GMT -5
Charlie, I never got this thread. My feeble brain does not comprende. Thread title is: Did you mean for it to say ? that is true...most people got it
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Post by grayfingers on Jul 26, 2013 6:59:13 GMT -5
Must be Eubonics software. . .
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