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Post by cpdad on Oct 26, 2013 14:59:58 GMT -5
got the letter today....insurance going up 25 to 55 percent...at least we are not losing our coverage since it is a self insured company...i suppose we should feel lucky for that. between the expired tax cuts that were not renewed...and this obamacare bullshit...it is going to cost us a minimum of 5k a year in spendable cash....oh ya i would have spent it i am now going to think about selling stuff...who needs a boat or jet skis...if they cant afford to buy gas from the business selling gas for a little fun. come next spring there is no way i will have the extra cash to spend at local businesses for recreational stuff...the watercraft and race car shall sit on trailers or be sold....the extra insurance cost has taken all fun money. thank you...and f#%k you obama....kev.
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Post by Donnie's Rocky Treasures on Oct 26, 2013 16:21:01 GMT -5
There is no way in hell I am signing up for obamacrap! They can penalize me if they want but they can take obamacrap & put it where the sun don't shine. I am on a limited income, won't qualify for medicare when I come of age but thankfully there is a program through the county down here for those with limited incomes. That is unless obamacrap messes that up too!
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Post by Sabre52 on Oct 26, 2013 17:35:57 GMT -5
Interesting that about 80% of those so far enrolled are going into medicaid. The expansion of medicaid, which is essentially free care for low income folks ( alias dependent Democratic entitlement slaves) is mainly being financed by cutting (stealing) 716 billion from old folk's medicare. The rest is gonna be stolen from young folks and working folks who will be forced to buy Obamacare plans or pay fines. Meanwhile half those with private medical plans they currently like ("You can keep your medical plan. You can keep your doctor".....Yeah sure) are losing their plans and will be forced to buy more expensive ones. Good going Mr. Obama. Way to turn the middle class into more lower class folks and screw over seniors.....Mel
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 18:03:38 GMT -5
On the news today, The only way they can penalize someone is to not give them their tax return when they file their taxes. All a person has to do is claim more dependents through the year so less money is taken out. Which in turn keeps that person from getting a refund. The math all works out the same because you are keeping more money during the year and end up either not getting a refund or having to pay something. They were saying that something like 80% of people paying in get a refund. They may see that number drop by a bunch
I know that this is possible because I worked with a guy that claimed ten kids because he did not want the gubment to have and use any of his money. He had to pay in every year but he saved the extra he was taking home and paid his taxes out of that money. Jim
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 18:09:17 GMT -5
Bye the way, they are wondering if this is going to be the nail in the coffin for the No Care Act. If they can not force people to pay fines then a lot of people are going to be doing just what they are doing right now which is not buy insurance. Jim
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Post by Sabre52 on Oct 26, 2013 18:50:19 GMT -5
Jim, I read that too. However, all that being said, this is the IRS and I figure when folks don't pay the fines, they'll figure out how to collect them. After all, they have every bit of your private information before you even get to shop the Obamacare site. I would assume they would take out a lien ( plus interest) on future refunds or credits or figure how to just tack it onto future tax bills as that would not be hard to do and they are pretty aggressive with collecting taxes from folks as long as they are not IRS workers who, of course, owe thousands in unpaid taxes.....Mel
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 19:13:53 GMT -5
I covered this in another thread.
The supreme court ruled that the "fine" was in reality a tax. The IRS, being the gubment's collecting agency, will then collect, just as they do any other tax. They have the supreme court behind them.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Oct 29, 2013 13:49:19 GMT -5
Just seen it on the news. Barry does lie. So much for keeping your Dr. Has to be a humble pill to swallow for the Dems. eh! This one was just to funny to resist.
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Post by Sabre52 on Oct 29, 2013 14:50:04 GMT -5
*LOL* I am still stunned at how many folks were stupid enough to be fooled by that lying, Commie, sack of horse manure. Kind of tickles me that the folks who are going to be screwed he hardest by Obamacare and the huge national debt are those very young dumbasses and tennis moms who voted this ahole into office in the first place. Takes a pretty stupid person to believe that kind of lies and to think everything is always free when nothing ever really is. Kind of fitting that those who thought so are the ones it's really going to come home to the hardest. To my way of thinking, those lies are so bad the Prez should be impeached for moral turpitude, violation of separation of powers and use of excessive untruths to get re elected......Mel
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 14:56:36 GMT -5
sure is peaceful around here lately.
Now that undeniable truth about obamacare is known, folks for it have disappeared.
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Post by Rockoonz on Oct 29, 2013 22:10:15 GMT -5
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Post by bushmanbilly on Oct 29, 2013 23:04:28 GMT -5
Good one Jim. Mel, blame the media. They never vetted him, asked tough questions. they just gave him $200 for passing go with no questions. Its no different in Canada. Right now we have 3 conservative senators under investigation for fraud. Th big 3 medias that are left leaning are having a field day tar and feathering them and our PM. They fail to mention that 2 liberal senators up for the same charges. One of them all ready doing jail time for it. Until people start voting with their remotes. The media will rule the election process. I don't know if any of you are following the Indians against fracking. There was an incident a week ago when 3 news crews were attacked and their news vehicles were hi jacked. The natives forced the CTV and Global reporters from their vans and tried to do the same to the Sun reported. The sun reporter got away with her car. She ended up giving the other reporters a ride. Next day the only news channel that reported the indecent was the Sun. Can you guess which one was not a left leaning news channel. www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/2781632327001#2769555905001Scott it is quiet around here. But I guess it must be hard to type when their fingers are slipping off the keys due to excess bullshit. Wonder how Charles is doing? His allmighty one has fallen from grace and about to lose both houses next year.
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Post by jakesrocks on Oct 29, 2013 23:16:25 GMT -5
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Post by bushmanbilly on Oct 29, 2013 23:25:01 GMT -5
Dam, he doesn't ship to Canada.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 13:27:01 GMT -5
billy buy it and send it to me. I'll mail it to you as a gift!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 13:38:20 GMT -5
And don't forget corkscrew bill
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Post by cpdad on Oct 31, 2013 19:20:17 GMT -5
me now has to have coverage for maternity stuff...my wife had a frigging hysterectomy years ago...thats frigged up....i have to pay for coverage for a minors well being.....my frigging kid is grown and is in intelligence for a special force unit in the military....but yet i have to pay for kids insurance....though i will have no more.
i should have been on top of this more....but im a summer guy.
babies...pregnancy...kids...have nothing to do with me....but looks like we are going to pay for it anyway..
once again....f*%ck you obama and your voters....kev.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 19:35:07 GMT -5
That is hilarious. Jim
Edited to say "not you cp".
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Post by Rockoonz on Oct 31, 2013 19:48:38 GMT -5
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Post by Rockoonz on Nov 1, 2013 9:40:50 GMT -5
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