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Post by phil on Nov 3, 2013 15:58:53 GMT -5
And, this is for everyone, connections can loosen up in wiring. If you have the knowledge to do it safely (IE: shut the whole darn thing down) check all the connections in the box and the outlets as well. Loose connections can get hot and are fire hazards. If a breaker keeps tripping you need to find the answer or don't use it. BTW: breakers don't work as simply as some would think. A 15A breaker can probably take 30A for a number of seconds or even minutes before tripping. They don't just trip if the 15A level hits. Good luck and please report the cause of the problem if you get it figured out. Most importantly, unplug unplug unplug! Like us, motors do get old and weak. They can be replaced, we can't.
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Post by Mark K on Nov 3, 2013 23:21:49 GMT -5
Now that trapping season has started, I will have much less time for the saw. Eventually I am going to run a 20A dedicated line to the garage. If it blows this, and A friend of mine doesn't think it will. I will have to look at the motor. He thinks the circuit is not adequate because of the way the house is wired.
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Post by Mark K on Dec 19, 2013 22:49:11 GMT -5
I just went to the HP site to see if they had specific specs for the motor.
(The electricians at work think the motor is shot and not an issue with the circuit.)
According to the HP site, the 14 and 16 inch saws have the 3/4 horse motors and the 18 and 20 inch are supposed to have a full horse power. Do you think this could be the problem?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 23:11:39 GMT -5
trapping season!! Love it. Can I buy a beaver pelt?? Are you sure the plug and power cord are 100% fine?
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Post by nowyo on Dec 20, 2013 1:47:12 GMT -5
Good luck with trapping. Haven't done that since I was a kid on the farm. Dave will know better, but without going to the shop and looking in my books, yeah, running a 1 hp motor on a 15 amp circuit with 14g wire could be the problem. Lots of times a motor that size will be able to be wired 110 or 220. Should be a wiring diagram on it. Either way, I'd look into the requirements for that motor and run a dedicated circuit for it.
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Post by Mark K on Dec 20, 2013 6:40:00 GMT -5
I forgot to mention, the saw has the smaller 3/4 hp on it instead of the 1 hp which it seems it is supposed to have.
Trapping is over for me. At least for a while. Did poorly as disease killed off most of the coon.
Didn't get a single beaver.
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Post by roy on Dec 20, 2013 10:00:30 GMT -5
i would get a one hp motor at 1725 rpm !
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Post by Mark K on Dec 21, 2013 21:01:32 GMT -5
That is kind of what I was thinking.
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Post by Mark K on Jan 9, 2014 17:04:43 GMT -5
Well, I replaced the motor with another one and it kills as soon as I turn it on.
Now I know that it is a supply issue.
I am a little disappointed because I really thought this would solve the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 12:04:07 GMT -5
What?? No beaver. Like sucks without beaver.
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Post by Mark K on Jan 10, 2014 18:01:47 GMT -5
Nope, no beaver. Things did not go well this season. Disease is one mean mother.
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Post by phil on Jan 11, 2014 16:19:34 GMT -5
Well, I replaced the motor with another one and it kills as soon as I turn it on. Now I know that it is a supply issue. I am a little disappointed because I really thought this would solve the problem. OK. One test at a time. Remove the belt. Does the blade turn freely? If you give it a whirl, does it continue to spin?
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Post by phil on Jan 11, 2014 16:20:38 GMT -5
Nope, no beaver. Things did not go well this season. Disease is one mean mother. I think Scott was referring to the wild and rare, yet urban/city dwelling 2 legged beaver.
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Post by Mark K on Jan 11, 2014 22:24:46 GMT -5
I went out and checked the saw again. When I look at it from the perspective of being warm instead of how cold I was when I replaced the motor, I think the replacement motor is shot too. I have a brand new motor in the shop somewhere, but it is going to be spring before I even attempt to find it. It's just too cold to be climbing through the attic of the shop.
I took the belt off and the saw spins freely.
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Post by phil on Jan 11, 2014 22:30:12 GMT -5
OK. Next step. Plug the motor in without connecting it. Even if it's cold, it should run. Or, take it inside and let it warm up, see if it runs. If it runs, carefully see if it has any torque or not.
Also, look at your belts. Are they the right size? Not running one that's too narrow and getting stuck in the pulley?
Next step would be to check the alignment of your blade to your vise. Have you changed blades recently? Is if properly aligned?
Next: Changed arbor lately? Also properly aligned? I'm assuming here that you know how to check. If not holler and I'll see if I can put it in words.
Also, is your blade dished? warped? bent?
Dumb question, is the circuit you're using rated for the amps the motor requires? How about your extension cords and wiring? heavy enough gauge or have you replaced any of it lately?
Remember, cold does cause your motor to draw lots more amps on startup and depending on the system, even while running.
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Post by Mark K on Jan 11, 2014 23:36:02 GMT -5
I know that the circuit is not adequate. This is not even close to good enough. However, the circuit should handle it if there is nothing else running on it.
The motor runs like crazy when it has no load on it and before I put it on the saw I tested it for torque the best I could. The new motor, while a big monster, was a freebie and may not be any good. The belt is correct. Everything is aligned correctly. In the spring I will have to run a dedicated circuit to it and take it from there.
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Post by phil on Jan 12, 2014 14:53:04 GMT -5
OK. well, that's about all I can help with remotely. If you've checked everything and all works well except the motor, then you know what to do.
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Post by drocknut on Jan 14, 2014 11:59:52 GMT -5
WTG and Congrats.
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Post by Fossilman on Jan 14, 2014 12:55:47 GMT -5
Great looking saw! Sorry to hear of the problems!
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