horsinaround
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Post by horsinaround on Apr 19, 2007 5:32:16 GMT -5
Hey everyone, does anyone know where I can get some good COAL that is good quality. I am having a heck of a time finding coal out here in Oklahoma, I unfortunately had to leave 1 ton of it at my old house in North Carolina. I could use about 200 lbs of it. If anyone has a source for it out here between Arkansas, Kansas, and Texas please let me know. I am wanting to combine my rocktumbling rocks and my blacksmithing art work., but without coal I can not do some of the things I want to. I have propane forges, but nothing works as nicely as coal. Thanks Steve
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Post by sbreed on Apr 19, 2007 8:04:35 GMT -5
Aren't the BBQ thingies coal?
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Apr 19, 2007 8:32:15 GMT -5
Nope- They are charcoal- and burn at a much lower temp and produce fewer BTU's- Too bad your so far away- we can get rice coal around here in 40Lb sacks- but the shipping would be way out of line!! Have you looked into some coal burning stoves?? they may have a more localized source for you?
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horsinaround
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Post by horsinaround on Apr 19, 2007 13:21:58 GMT -5
I have been all over the internet looking for a source for coal in Oklahoma...so far no luck...I was hoping maybe someone form this board from the three states listed may have apoint of contact for some nice coal...I do not mind traveling a bit for it. They used to mine coal out of a place 45 miles from here..but not in many many years...no coal to be found either.... steve
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Post by freeform on Apr 19, 2007 13:52:35 GMT -5
Steve, have you talked with the Mining office in OK? www.mines.state.ok.us/id20.htmthey may be able to point you to anyone selling it to the public. Coal is one of the big mining oppteations here in AZ. But the public cant access it as far as i know. But i never bothered to look.
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snowdog
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Post by snowdog on Apr 19, 2007 15:55:30 GMT -5
how quick you need it ? --- I'm in illinois but may be able to "find" some pretty easy ------ "pm" for details ;D ---------
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karenfh
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Post by karenfh on Apr 19, 2007 18:32:52 GMT -5
What a hoot! When I lived in Wyoming as a kid, 25-30 years ago, they had open coal mines, which we all thought were terrible, even tho the companies promised to 'fix' everthing when they were done. I believe that Gillette, WY still has active mines. You might want to check there, somehow. I do know that the railroads here in NE still ship coal. Not sure where they are coming from, nor where they are goin. Pretty hard to miss those 200+ trains with black stuff heaped over the top!
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spikeict
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Post by spikeict on Apr 19, 2007 19:33:48 GMT -5
Steve, I had what thought would be a good suggestion but decided to look into it before I posted, I became frustrated when I could not find anything either. I know that Neosho, and Montgomery counties in Ks. had coal mining in them even the worlds largest coal shovel sits idle near Columbus Ks www.bigbrutus.org/ I did come up with a couple of names in Ok. but you probably tried them. www.mindat.org/loc-22693.htmlwww.mindat.org/loc-43263.htmlwww.mindat.org/loc-22730.htmlSince I know you are south of Tulsa I tried to look up the phone number for the one there with no results. Like Karen I remember the coal trains from not too long ago, the ones I saw were coming out of Oklahoma, but where they started from is anyones guess. BTW I may have to eat my words about no rocks in Ks. I came across a few things, I'll check into them and let you know. Good luck bud Spike
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karenfh
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Post by karenfh on Apr 19, 2007 20:00:02 GMT -5
Yep, I was right, Gillette still has mines. I googled 'coal in gillette, wyoming' and actually came up with a bunch of sites. Here's one: www.ccsd.k12.wy.us/mines/PR/pr.htmlNot sure how you would go about buying coal from them, but it's worth a try, I guess..
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horsinaround
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Post by horsinaround on Apr 20, 2007 21:24:15 GMT -5
Thanks everyone.... Still on the hunt for coal ....always looking for it here. Steve
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Post by docone31 on Apr 20, 2007 21:48:05 GMT -5
Ace Hardware has coal. Usually, you do not have to pay for shipping for an in store pickup. I originally got into jewelery by originally doodling with blacksmithing. I made Katanas. I used exclusively charcoal. I made my own. I started with an oak tree. Cut it into 18" pieces, split them, then put them into a charcoal house I made for it. After the sod air dried for a few days, I started a small fire under the stacked pile. Once it started smoking, I sealed the opening then lit the upper vent hole. When the flame went out, it was done making charcoal. I let it sit for a few days, untill cool, then broke into it. My forge was made from refractory concrete. It was self consuming. One blade, one forge. Each forge had its own Pyre and bellows. Charcoal, I found is more efficient for forging. The reducing flame capabilities, plus the carbon let off made a better damascus blade. In the Foxfire series of books, you will find plans for a Charcoal house, and refractory forge. It works real well. Much better than the old brake drum forge I used to use. For general forging, I made a propane forge. It worked real well. I could alloy steels, melt pig, and the furnace was good for difussion welding damascus steel. You might look into it. Yes, commercial charcoal does disappear quickly. Homemade charcoal is a little better and you have more control.
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dasherm
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Post by dasherm on Apr 21, 2007 15:03:49 GMT -5
Hey Steve, I did a search for "farrier supplies," figured at least some of them still used coal rather than gas, the following link had several listings, I've included the one I seen in TX. www.anvilmag.com/cs.htmLiberty Forge Nick Brunder 40128 Industrial Park Circle Georgetown TX 78626 Phone: 512/869-2830 Been lurking here for past few weeks, since Snowdog put me onto the site, been going through the past posts and have learned a bunch. Thought I'd put my 2 cents in here and maybe pay back for a little of what I've learned here. Good luck
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dasherm
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Post by dasherm on Apr 21, 2007 15:21:07 GMT -5
Couldn't leave well enough alone, continued poking around with farrier supplies and found this (it's 2005 issue but they still may be in business), now I'm on to other searches. www.fholder.com/Blacksmithing/sample2.pdfOklahoma Mills and TeeJay, Blanchard OK, Call Mills at 405-401-9739 to arrange for pick up or shipment. Currently stocking Sewell Seam from WV 15,000 + BTU by the 50 -100 lb bag or bulk can be arranged. email: TeeJay at teesox@aol.com or Mills at mills_fam2@netzero.net Again, good luck
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