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Post by jamesp on May 21, 2014 15:29:09 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 16:27:33 GMT -5
I found one of those about 15 miles from my pad. I need to go back. How often do you think they turn over?
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Post by rockjunquie on May 21, 2014 17:08:12 GMT -5
I wonder what kind of cool stuff you'll be dragging home from there?
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Post by bentiron on May 21, 2014 18:06:37 GMT -5
When I was doing blacksmithing I haunted a scrap yard so often other customers thought I was an employee but not true. One of my best finds was an anvil at $0.75/#, a Peter Wright with half the hard face gone but what a wonderful horn it had, 125# weight. I still have it but polished the horn and face for jewelry work thirty years ago to a high polish, great for forging out silver and copper but now it has once again got a fine fuzz of rust on it. No room in little area for working stones and jewelry. The higher humidity has contributed to that. One of the things you can find in a scrap yard is copper wire in thicker gauges cheaper than new wire, same for sheet copper. It's great for making jewelry and other odds and ends out of. They usually charge me about 20 to 25% over scrap price for and that is a lot cheaper for the new stuff. Sometimes you can find tool steel shorts to use for chasing and repousse tools cheap by the pound, braze or silver solder it to a piece of mild steel if it is too short. scrap yard are so cool!! Another thing you can get there is thicker walled and larger diameter pipe for casting flasks. Lots cheaper than store bought and every once in awhile you find them in stainless steel at very reasonable prices. You may need to pay a cutting fee to have the bigger pipe cut down to a shorter usable size but well worth the price. Large diameter pipe can be more expensive, I had a section of 24" dia.X 24"L to use as a vacuum chamber for my larger castings to get the bubbles out of the investment and away back when it was $25/ft cut square ready to weld in place. So a lot of that cost was the cutting/beveling fee. I had a rubber pad on the concrete and plexiglass on the top with rubber gasket and vacuum hose connection. couldn have afforded it with out the scrap yard.
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Post by jamesp on May 21, 2014 18:11:15 GMT -5
I wonder what kind of cool stuff you'll be dragging home from there? Today: 45 3/4" water pipes in red primer coat-7 feet long 30 3/4" thin wall galvanized EMT conduit-mixed lengths 12 3/8" solid steel rod-10 feet long 9 5/16" solid steel rod-10 feet long 3' X 4' X 1/8" steel plate some 3/4" X 3/16" steel bar stock-10 feet long some rusted truck springs two fans to make pendant lights using blade and cage few sticks of rebar total $136
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Post by jamesp on May 21, 2014 18:19:06 GMT -5
I found one of those about 15 miles from my pad. I need to go back. How often do you think they turn over? Yes it turns Scott. If China is buying at 15 cents a pound it goes straight to remelt. If they are not paying much like now it sits an waits for tinkerers. They had a pile of roof top A/C motors this time. Probably 40-50. We restock the bone pile when prices are low. We took cut-offs and leftovers for some credit.
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Post by Pat on May 21, 2014 19:55:18 GMT -5
I used to love junkyards when they would let you in. Our local dumps demand payment, then bury everything as soon as it is dumped. I used to go just for the fun of discovery, but now it is just garbage. There used to be car junk yards. Went with my son several times. Interesting.
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Post by jamesp on May 21, 2014 20:33:43 GMT -5
I used to love junkyards when they would let you in. Our local dumps demand payment, then bury everything as soon as it is dumped. I used to go just for the fun of discovery, but now it is just garbage. There used to be car junk yards. Went with my son several times. Interesting. They would welcome you w/open arms Pat. Com'on over and will go junkin. There are many yards, only a few let the public in. But you can drive thru the industrial district about 8 miles north and dumpster dive.
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Post by rockpickerforever on May 21, 2014 21:37:16 GMT -5
I remember going car junk yarding with my dad when we were getting my '64 Corvair together. Needed to get a tranny (2 speed Powerglide). We ended up coming home with an abandoned calico kitten... Oh, but we got what we needed for the car, and got it running.
I also love scrap yarding. I think it's the "artsy-fartsy" in us, lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 22:33:26 GMT -5
I found one of those about 15 miles from my pad. I need to go back. How often do you think they turn over? Yes it turns Scott. If China is buying at 15 cents a pound it goes straight to remelt. If they are not paying much like now it sits an waits for tinkerers. They had a pile of roof top A/C motors this time. Probably 40-50. We restock the bone pile when prices are low. We took cut-offs and leftovers for some credit. So tomorrow then I will go back to that yard. They have a HUGE copper department. I may snag a bunch for making clocks... I start the new job next week so gotta do stuff like this now.
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Post by quartz on May 22, 2014 0:01:02 GMT -5
Ye gad, we could near buy stuff there and ship it here cheaper than getting it here. The pics. got both of us doing double takes, lots of good, usable stuff. And, the stinkers here soak you $3/cut, no matter how small.
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Post by jamesp on May 22, 2014 0:05:04 GMT -5
So tomorrow then I will go back to that yard. They have a HUGE copper department. I may snag a bunch for making clocks... I start the new job next week so gotta do stuff like this now. Read more: forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/65822/jamesps-junkyards-downtown-atlanta#ixzz32PwVeVs6Well, if I don't get something productive going soon a job is the next step. Business is slow. Straightening out the weld shop. Building a jig to crank out some outdoor kitchen table frames. Built a couple for friends and they love them. Like deck kitchens. Would take an interesting job in a second though.
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Post by jamesp on May 22, 2014 6:15:43 GMT -5
Ye gad, we could near buy stuff there and ship it here cheaper than getting it here. The pics. got both of us doing double takes, lots of good, usable stuff. And, the stinkers here soak you $3/cut, no matter how small. A few years back I could have bought a large amount of steel. The Carlson muffler company is close by.They shut down and those Carlson brothers kept all their manufacturing stuff except the presses. They started brokering presses in one of the buildings. I bought a lot of metal from them. Then they sold their whole steel yard for $9000. I wished I knew. It was a bargain. It is a common trend now and very sad. Our plants are being torn down and the steel is going overseas. We need to remelt and rebuild our own factories. No more jobs !! They better make a change. A country can not run on computer experts. Some people bought a press or two and cranked out widget parts. Making a 1/4 cent per part every second in profit. $9/hour. about $200 per day, about 60K running 300 days. Low maintenance machinery. Sweet business. Hard to sell anything you make if no one has jobs. I worry about the younger gen.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 13:55:26 GMT -5
Ye gad, we could near buy stuff there and ship it here cheaper than getting it here. The pics. got both of us doing double takes, lots of good, usable stuff. And, the stinkers here soak you $3/cut, no matter how small. A few years back I could have bought a large amount of steel. The Carlson muffler company is close by.They shut down and those Carlson brothers kept all their manufacturing stuff except the presses. They started brokering presses in one of the buildings. I bought a lot of metal from them. Then they sold their whole steel yard for $9000. I wished I knew. It was a bargain. It is a common trend now and very sad. Our plants are being torn down and the steel is going overseas. We need to remelt and rebuild our own factories. No more jobs !! They better make a change. A country can not run on computer experts. Some people bought a press or two and cranked out widget parts. Making a 1/4 cent per part every second in profit. $9/hour. about $200 per day, about 60K running 300 days. Low maintenance machinery. Sweet business. Hard to sell anything you make if no one has jobs. I worry about the younger gen. Wow, that was some analysis. Can't even think of a thing to add to it. Let's hope the next generation is aggressive, smart and resourceful (kidlet is, her classmates? not so much). Maybe they can get out from under excessive government oversite and really get this freight train rolling along again.
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Post by jamesp on May 22, 2014 17:44:05 GMT -5
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Post by Fossilman on May 22, 2014 19:02:54 GMT -5
I think there is a bit of scrapping and picking in everybodies blood......I know its in my blood....
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Post by radio on May 22, 2014 19:42:04 GMT -5
Keep an eye out for some nice thick steel pipe 20-24 inches in diameter and make yourself an awesome smoker. If anyone wants to build one, shoot me a pm and I will hook you up with a program to calculate firebox size and the whole 9 yards
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Post by jamesp on May 22, 2014 21:27:20 GMT -5
Keep an eye out for some nice thick steel pipe 20-24 inches in diameter and make yourself an awesome smoker. If anyone wants to build one, shoot me a pm and I will hook you up with a program to calculate firebox size and the whole 9 yards i see a lot of tanks. many for compressors of all sizes, not to thick or thin, about right.
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Post by radio on May 22, 2014 21:49:04 GMT -5
Keep an eye out for some nice thick steel pipe 20-24 inches in diameter and make yourself an awesome smoker. If anyone wants to build one, shoot me a pm and I will hook you up with a program to calculate firebox size and the whole 9 yards i see a lot of tanks. many for compressors of all sizes, not to thick or thin, about right. Snag one I have been wanting to build a reverse flow model to better control the heat distribution. With most smokers you can't cook on the first 1/4 or more of the cooking chamber as the heat coming in has to even out or you cook to fast. Been wanting to smoke a brisket for a while now, but just so danged busy I don't have time:-(
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Post by jamesp on May 23, 2014 5:15:57 GMT -5
Snag one I have been wanting to build a reverse flow model to better control the heat distribution. With most smokers you can't cook on the first 1/4 or more of the cooking chamber as the heat coming in has to even out or you cook to fast. Been wanting to smoke a brisket for a while now, but just so danged busy I don't have time:-( Read more: forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/65822/jamesps-junkyards-downtown-atlanta?page=2&scrollTo=744810#ixzz32WzELoxfHave made a lot of wood stoves. A vertical compressor tank will hardly draw. A horizontal tank will draw air like a jet engine. I for that reason believe in a vertical arrangement for smoking. The smoke gets trapped in a vertical arrangement and the fire burns very slow. Even a round fire pit is hard to start a fire in, easier to start a fire on flat ground. Made a wood stove out of an 16 inch pipe w/flat plate ends and the flue out the back plate, door in front plate. Set horizontal. 40 inch long. It draws so fast it resonates like one of Hitler's flapper jet engines at certain settings. To the point it shoots flame out the incoming air adjustment slot a foot about twice a second. Along w/ashes blowing out the vent hole. Perhaps super sonic, sounds like explosions at a frequency of 2 per second. The whole thing becomes cherry red in minutes due to the violent reverberation within. Closing the vent to a trickle it burns just fine. It will burn all the wood up quickly when flapping. I trip out guests with that thing. Set the fire, turn the lights down, and wait till it starts making racket, and then watch it turn cherry red. Funniest thing.
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