|
Post by rockjunquie on Aug 2, 2014 22:41:23 GMT -5
PS: I lived in a very nice neighborhood back in Commefornia. Illegals moved in as did crackhouses, pitbulls and meth labs. Had a drive by where they shot a guy and ran over him a block from my home. A meth lab across my back fence. Illegals on stolen bikes riding through the neighborhood in broad daylight while folks were at work doing break ins. ER's were all going bankrupt and schools were overcrowded. One of the main reasons why we moved to Texas. I did know a lot of good folks when I worked for the AG dept that we decent hardworking people. However, not all are good folks with good intentions. I defer to any and all experiences from y'all out West. We don't have a large population of illegals here. I must say that I was worried for my little neighborhood. I'm happy and relieved that, so far, there haven't been any problems.
|
|
gemfeller
Cave Dweller
Member since June 2011
Posts: 3,841
|
Post by gemfeller on Aug 3, 2014 0:33:25 GMT -5
PS: I lived in a very nice neighborhood back in Commefornia. Illegals moved in as did crackhouses, pitbulls and meth labs. Had a drive by where they shot a guy and ran over him a block from my home. A meth lab across my back fence. Illegals on stolen bikes riding through the neighborhood in broad daylight while folks were at work doing break ins. ER's were all going bankrupt and schools were overcrowded. One of the main reasons why we moved to Texas. I did know a lot of good folks when I worked for the AG dept that we decent hardworking people. However, not all are good folks with good intentions. I defer to any and all experiences from y'all out West. We don't have a large population of illegals here. I must say that I was worried for my little neighborhood. I'm happy and relieved that, so far, there haven't been any problems. I live in the "belly of the beast," next to Oxnard, CA which is the birthplace of union firebrand Cesar Chavez and a magnet for illegal farm workers. I don't blame these people for seeking a better life and economic well-being. I like Hispanics. They are generally fine people with a great work ethic and warm, engaging personalities. Many are very talented and enterprising. The problem is the "illegal" part. They defy our laws and politicians accept it. I've had personal experience with the bureaucratic struggles and outrageous government-required costs for a son-in-law who emigrated legally from Australia. Yet a few miles south of me people stroll across the border and face no penalty at all. They are welcomed, given medical care, transported to their illegal "families" and even demonstrate in front of the White House with no consequences. Something's really out of whack. Both political parties are allied in "overlooking" immigration laws. Democrats are motivated by the prospect of creating an election-proof majority of welfare-state voters who come here to enjoy taxpayer-financed food stamps, social security, medical and other benefits. The "country club" Republicans, under the thrall of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, want unlimited cheap labor and the country's overall welfare be damned as long as it puts money into a few pockets. The Tea Party folks err by being too strident in demanding that existing laws be enforced, making it easy for their opponents to demonize them as haters and xenophobes -- with the willing help of a compliant media. Mel, I lived across the fence from a meth lab too, in Pismo Beach. But the "chemist" was a young American college graduate who was trained at Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo. Police said he had the most advanced lab ever busted in CA. It would have devastated 4 city blocks if it had blown, including us and the elementary school across the street. The Hell's Angels had numerous meth operations in rural areas of the Central Coast, some with many dead bodies buried after power conflicts. The only Hispanics involved were poor guys who were hired to keep things running and take the fall after a bust. Certainly the big Mexican drug cartels are a different order of business but both types of criminality are being encouraged by our pathetic politicians. I hope the events you describe weren't in Ojai, which is where I place you from your various posts. We often dine there at Suzanne's: the specialty steak drenched with chiles and other succulent stuff is a near orgasmic dining experience. (Note to Self: Make reservations.) Here in Camarillo we've had very few problems. There was a drive-by 4 years ago and last year a gang-banger was stabbed to death by an adolescent fool wannabe-gangster. Both events were gang-on-gang violence and so far it hasn't "reached out to touch" the wider community. We don't tolerate tagging and we're quick to report potential problems.
|
|
thehp
having dreams about rocks
Member since July 2014
Posts: 52
|
Post by thehp on Aug 3, 2014 6:10:27 GMT -5
Wow.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Member since January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 10:38:40 GMT -5
BFD. The flu could kill 50K in a good year. Rich, that is weak sauce. We have no clue what Ebola could do in a good year. But it seems our leaders want to find out by bringing it to a very efficient distribution point.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Member since January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 10:40:25 GMT -5
So how many populations did the white man decimate with his cooties and blankets and syphilitic oozings? Payback’s a bitch, mofos. : ) So past transgressions make it perfectly OK for new ones? Wow.
|
|
Sabre52
Cave Dweller
Me and my gal, Rosie
Member since August 2005
Posts: 20,472
|
Post by Sabre52 on Aug 3, 2014 11:36:44 GMT -5
Rick, It was the Ojai Valley, though we lived on the outskirts of town. Nice tract homes but things were going downhill pretty fast....Mel
|
|
jamesp
Cave Dweller
Member since October 2012
Posts: 36,240
|
Post by jamesp on Aug 3, 2014 11:39:52 GMT -5
So how many populations did the white man decimate with his cooties and blankets and syphilitic oozings? Payback’s a bitch, mofos. : ) I never knew that white man had any idea that his diseases would have an effect on foreign people. It was not even intentional. There is no gain in bringing Ebola here or any where else. Make an effort to solve the problem where it is a problem if that is a goal. Simple. Why did they teach us History ??
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Member since January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 12:01:21 GMT -5
And besides; They are bringing it to jamesp backyard and that pisses me off.
|
|
jamesp
Cave Dweller
Member since October 2012
Posts: 36,240
|
Post by jamesp on Aug 3, 2014 12:53:52 GMT -5
And besides; They are bringing it to jamesp backyard and that pisses me off. Thank you big brother Scott. The STD's are alive and well here too. CDC is falling down on the job.
|
|
|
Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 3, 2014 13:50:07 GMT -5
Mere words cannot even begin to describe the disdain I hold these "authorities" in. What gives them the right to possibly expose all Americans to this deadly disease? I don't care that it is not so easy (their words) to transmit, why did they feel they needed to bring it to our shore? I'm sure, like with all politics, there is an ulterior motive here. Think Michael Crichton novel.
I question the sanity of these people, and think they should all be replaced with people that know they are supposed to use their brains to think.
|
|
|
Post by Rockoonz on Aug 3, 2014 16:03:35 GMT -5
So they say it is difficult to transmit ebola, yet the victims who are being transported to the US reportedly were wearing hazmat suits when they caught it?!?
|
|
jamesp
Cave Dweller
Member since October 2012
Posts: 36,240
|
Post by jamesp on Aug 3, 2014 16:39:42 GMT -5
So they say it is difficult to transmit ebola, yet the victims who are being transported to the US reportedly were wearing hazmat suits when they caught it?!?
|
|
jamesp
Cave Dweller
Member since October 2012
Posts: 36,240
|
Post by jamesp on Aug 3, 2014 16:40:28 GMT -5
Need more be said ?
|
|
panamark
fully equipped rock polisher
Member since September 2012
Posts: 1,343
|
Post by panamark on Aug 3, 2014 16:47:36 GMT -5
So they say it is difficult to transmit ebola, yet the victims who are being transported to the US reportedly were wearing hazmat suits when they caught it?!? No. Where did you read that? What I read was they got it in the scrub room. The conditions in those African "hospitals" are very much un-hospital like in terms of our hospital experience. So don't imagine of it in those terms. They had no where near the PPS (personal protection suits) that you saw them wearing at the airport.
|
|
|
Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 3, 2014 16:54:58 GMT -5
So they say it is difficult to transmit ebola, yet the victims who are being transported to the US reportedly were wearing hazmat suits when they caught it?!? Exactly!!! That doesn't sound like it is so difficult to trandsmit, if it can overcome all their precautions. So what chance do the rest of us mere mortals have?
|
|
|
Post by parfive on Aug 3, 2014 20:32:14 GMT -5
400K in Toledo would love a trip to Atlanta about now.
|
|
Sabre52
Cave Dweller
Me and my gal, Rosie
Member since August 2005
Posts: 20,472
|
Post by Sabre52 on Aug 3, 2014 20:45:02 GMT -5
Sure brings to light what a small problem with the infrastructure can do as far as affecting a large number of people. Water supplies, fuel pipelines, power grid etc are pretty vulnerable in this country. Government would have us think otherwise but don't believe'em.....Mel
|
|
grayfingers
Cave Dweller
Member since November 2007
Posts: 4,575
|
Post by grayfingers on Aug 4, 2014 6:14:22 GMT -5
|
|
panamark
fully equipped rock polisher
Member since September 2012
Posts: 1,343
|
Post by panamark on Aug 4, 2014 9:56:47 GMT -5
Good post ,thanks. Yes, the hospitals in Africa are often improvised situations. The UVEX ski googles on those doctors are unique. The suits the people were wearing at the airport were much, much better thankfully. They look like positive pressure suits where self contained air is blown into the suit to push any air-leaks outward, away from the person. We had to wear them at the nuke site when anyone got in a place that was probably hot. One of the most frightening statements in the article was: "in Liberia it is tradition to touch the dead at funerals". Trying to decon a body that died from the disease seems impossible! I sure hope the airport/transportation.system screening improves. That is the pathway that most concerns me as unknown carriers can jump continents in hours. But this seems difficult given how easy and quick transportation is now. I guess that is why some experts are saying ebola is bound to spread :-( I really hope the new experiment serum is a breakthrough aid.
|
|
tkvancil
fully equipped rock polisher
Member since September 2011
Posts: 1,546
|
Post by tkvancil on Aug 4, 2014 15:39:17 GMT -5
I heard today on NPR that there have been a couple monkeys successfully vaccinated. MSN is also reporting a vaccine coming soon according to the NIH. And the doctor is getting better they say .... that's some good news anyway.
|
|