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Post by snowmom on Oct 6, 2015 12:54:55 GMT -5
WOW, I got a package from Jamesp today (happy birthday to me!). I never expected 13 wonderful wetland and aquatic plants. About 50 percent of them were labeled, the others will be a mystery. Especially the one labeled "unweeded shit loaf"... LOL. I can't wait to see what kinds of aquatic plants grow from that ball of roots and clay... looks like some nice green stuff in there... for the next day or 2 i'll getting the containers gathered so that I can get them set up under lights and growing. Spouse is in charge of figuring out the lights. This is going to be fun! I thought maybe you sent the aquatic fern we had discussed at one point but 13 packages! Will be taking photos in a couple of days when I get the tanks planted and the sediment clears a bit. Many Thanks Jamesp!
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Post by captbob on Oct 6, 2015 13:22:53 GMT -5
Very cool. Whatcha gonna do with them? How long until it snows up there? They gotta be inside in the winter?
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Post by snowmom on Oct 6, 2015 16:16:45 GMT -5
gonna make up a terrarium based on wetlands, yep, a couple of those plants need aquarium, but handily I keep aquariums too, just have to remove fish from one to plant the aquatics, the rest of jamesp's plants will go into another aquarium tank but set up as terrarium. I do think most of them are tropical or at least warm weather plants, Jamesp confirm? A little sifty snow is 3 to 5 weeks away, but won't accumulate until around Thanksgiving- Christmas time frame. We got 11 inches of snow last Thanksgiving but it melted not long after. I was still hounding into mid December last year. (ice on shores, due to freezing temps, but not snow). Worst snows/cold in my 2 Mi winters so far are Jan and Feb, first week or 2 of March. Really not much different than where I used to live in central IL. Jugglerguy can probably confirm if this is the usual pattern?
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Post by Jugglerguy on Oct 6, 2015 16:19:03 GMT -5
It usually snows in the second week of deer season.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Oct 6, 2015 16:21:28 GMT -5
Jan/Feb are the coldest, but big snows can occur from December through March.
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Post by snowmom on Oct 6, 2015 16:22:58 GMT -5
bow season just started, are you saying it will snow next week?
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Post by Jugglerguy on Oct 6, 2015 16:30:37 GMT -5
No, the BIG opening day of deer season. You know, the day they close the schools. Rifle season. It's on Sunday this year, so I don't get a day off. Bummer. I do have 14 squirrels in the freezer for the deer season eve dinner. I was going to get more tonight, but I'm correcting papers and spending too much time typing here.
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Post by snowmom on Oct 7, 2015 6:09:13 GMT -5
Loved the yoopers vid, a little truth hidden in there. LOL I love living in Michigan, we were so amazed when we learned schools close and business stops here so everybody can go hunting. Illinois is a completely different country. I count my Michigan blessings every day! Thanks Rob!
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Post by jamesp on Oct 8, 2015 17:21:26 GMT -5
No, the BIG opening day of deer season. You know, the day they close the schools. Rifle season. It's on Sunday this year, so I don't get a day off. Bummer. I do have 14 squirrels in the freezer for the deer season eve dinner. I was going to get more tonight, but I'm correcting papers and spending too much time typing here. When is your rut Rob ? Ours is Nov 7-21 ish around Atlanta. They imported deer from up north creating various rut periods. rut is the hunt, love it
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Post by jamesp on Oct 8, 2015 17:30:26 GMT -5
azolla. a floating fern. fixes nitrogen. takes over entire lakes. will grow great on moist soil like a carpet. green or red defending on light conds weird little plant. dances to it's own drummer. wonder if it is in fossil form, seems primitive. I could not find them fossilized
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Post by jamesp on Oct 8, 2015 17:33:48 GMT -5
All those plants will handle inside temp conditions Deb. They are all a bit sun lovers though. Unlike aquarium plants. There are some carnivorous plants. A finger or two every 6 months will keep them happy.
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Post by riverrock on Oct 8, 2015 18:50:10 GMT -5
Juggler guy I reread you post 5 times now. Why do you have squirrels in your freezer? You don't eat them do you ? Are they not rats that just decided that they would rather live it trees? Now if you are eating them I want to see one cooked and how you cook them, spices bbq roasted I have too many ? I need to see photos please.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Oct 8, 2015 19:43:06 GMT -5
jamesp huntin' season starts on November 15. I'm not very serious about shooting a deer, because my wife doesn't eat it and doesn't encourage me to bring one home. My son has shot a couple now and that's much more fun for me. So I can't tell you exactly when the rut is, but the bucks are chasing does around the 15th. riverrock, the traditional dinner at camp the night before the opener is squirrel. I don't cook them, but they are grilled and then put in a big roaster pan with cream and onions and cooked in the oven of the big old wood stove at camp. They're delicious. My daughter is coming home from college for a visit and is bringing her boyfriend. She wants him to try squirrel so I'm cooking a couple up this weekend for them, if you've ever had wild rabbit (we have mostly cottontails around here), the taste is similar, but better in my opinion. They are much harder to peel than a rabbit though. I don't have any cooked pictures, but here's a gallon bag and a shot inside a second bag that I started. Hard to see much when they're frozen. Kind of a weird thing to take a picture of. Maybe I can get a picture of the kids eating some.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 22:20:53 GMT -5
Tree squirrel is truly delicious. As good as any game or industrial meat anywhere in the world. Jim I'm on my way for the rut. Snow mom enjoy the plants and the surprises that arises. Utricularia anyone?
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Post by jamesp on Oct 9, 2015 4:42:57 GMT -5
Tree squirrel is truly delicious. As good as any game or industrial meat anywhere in the world. Jim I'm on my way for the rut. Snow mom enjoy the plants and the surprises that arises. Utricularia anyone? Since snowmom was doing a terrarium I did not send submerged plants like bladderwort. Did send her drosera... Rut starts Nov. Scott. Gun ready ? snowmom- Note, look up drosera. my camp in Florida, when dry season comes the exposed lake shores bloom in massive stands of drosera. It is an insane plant and grows/seeds like a weed on damp peat in a terrarium. It will take shade well, but prefers sun. It hitchhiked in on other collected plants and covers the peat on the pitcher plant pots. Seeds like crazy. If you sloped the peat upward from front of terrarium to back, say in an aquarium you could see the peat hugging drosera. Peat wicks well, so the high part of the slope should stay moist. that is one plant I thought about doing terrarium sales over the years. Maybe in a window box arrangement where you view from the top. anyway, I sent you some.
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Post by snowmom on Oct 9, 2015 15:57:59 GMT -5
yes, I found some in one package and also in the unweeded shit loaf.... very neat little plants. I have them started in 2 different places as insurance that at least some will survive! Wonderful variety and diversity in those, can't wait to see them take off and fill the tank. its a small tank, a 10 gallon. I'm already looking at whats in the 35 gallon one and trying to figure out how to move them to make room. This time of the year is difficult here because I must bring in plants which have spent the summer outside and I have to edit and fuss to make sure all have enough of what they need indoors to make it through the winter. Down to only 3 tanks of fish and aquatic plants now, may have to edit even more. Wish son would come get his 75 gallon tank with the 10 year old pleco (18 inches long!). That would free up a bit of wall space. I think I will have to leave the fish to son in my will... darn things are living fossils. This one is named Zoidberg. I have a small pleco of my own, with one eye. She is Leila...
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Post by riverrock on Oct 10, 2015 6:08:32 GMT -5
I never knew that people ate squirrel, thought it was a joke from Vegas vacation. But went on YouTube and I now know that they are food. I wonder if they are eaten here in Canada or Ontario .
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Post by grayfingers on Oct 10, 2015 7:37:51 GMT -5
They have big Grey and Fox squirrels down south, our northern red ones are smaller, not hunted much here in Montana.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Oct 10, 2015 8:38:54 GMT -5
I shoot mostly black and gray squirrels. We get a few fox squirrels which are larger.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 10, 2015 8:43:53 GMT -5
Fox squirrels stay in the southern half of Georgia. Color variable. 2nd squirrel is a grey squirrel. Pecan growers in middle to south Georgia have serious problems: " They are also problematic to the tree itself: One squirrel can eat up to 50 pounds of pecans in a year, according to estimates in a Georgia study, and they also snap and chew twigs." The fox squirrel is big enemy in pecan territory. Introduction to Texas and Cali causing problems. "Eastern Fox Squirrel (Sciurus Niger): New Threat to Pecan Orchards in Far West Texas Research is needed on both the extent of damage caused by S. niger to pecan production and the control methods in this situation. We recom-mend a goal of complete eradication of S. niger from this region. Sciurus niger should be delisted as a game species in El Paso County, Texas, and throughout New Mexico, where there are no native populations of the species."
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