jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Dec 31, 2015 15:16:28 GMT -5
This wet field perks water through it's sandy soil. Used to grow wetland plants on it. Sure nuff puts a rust coat(seasoning) on when bowls are elevated couple of inches off the ground. The rust pushes the graphite lubricant used in the forging process off the metal. About the only way to clean it.
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Post by Fossilman on Dec 31, 2015 17:26:21 GMT -5
Seriously going to keep you busy for awhile! Great idea for the cleaning...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 18:01:00 GMT -5
Mine is here. Thread coming soon.
No maker label tho'
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Post by jamesp on Dec 31, 2015 18:28:20 GMT -5
Mine is here. Thread coming soon. No maker label tho' Fly me out there and I will install it. Or I can send you one, cheaper that way. Yours was heavy heavy. It was a thick bowl to begin with, and add the smaller bowl under it. I think 330 Pounds total pallet weight. 19th generation got the labels. I burn saw oil in a 24 inch pit(kerosene and 25% 10W-40). Burns a long time. Sludge leaves a funky talcum like powder.
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Post by jamesp on Dec 31, 2015 18:31:02 GMT -5
Seriously going to keep you busy for awhile! Great idea for the cleaning... Give me 3 days...to do 12. Got to get most of those built before rotator cuff surgery. Come help, I'll take you coral/gator hunting.
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Post by jamesp on Dec 31, 2015 18:34:49 GMT -5
I shipped a big pit to N. Carolina w/pedestal base. They ordered one w/legs(oops). The next door neighbor bought it and the table top. Now got to ship the right one to the original customer.
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Post by mohs on Dec 31, 2015 18:58:11 GMT -5
goin green with fire pits !! ha ha I'd advertise that fact...
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Post by quartz on Dec 31, 2015 23:26:29 GMT -5
Most people cuss rust, do everything they can to prevent it, and work themselves to no end to remove it; and you culture it, whatta deal.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jan 1, 2016 3:31:03 GMT -5
Rust and fungus, jamesp thrives on it!
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Post by jamesp on Jan 1, 2016 6:50:25 GMT -5
mohs, you make a great point. Lots of nasty chemicals used to solve the rust and lubricant issues. Both graphite and iron oxide and very natural chemicals readily returned to the soil, iron oxide a micronutrient for plants. Once the surface has rusted to a point it stops shedding and becomes a durable patina. Might as well passively supply oxygen, heat and acidic moisture rising off of highly acidic soil to expedite the all natural process. quartz Been laughed at for removing pesky wetland plants from local farmers fields for years. At times 5000 plant clumps in several days. They welcome the removal since it competes with their grass to make hay and tangles their hay harvesting equipment. Talk about a muddy nasty job, but at a $1 per plant for wetland mitigation at resale I never remember complaining. Farmers even laughing at me; their attitude, "if you can't drive a tractor over it then it's useless land"(speaking of their wet areas). Their plants very healthy due to run off of animal excrements...(ammonias, phosphates, nitrates, etc). Call it organically grown. It cost about $10,000 to clear the trees, reroute the creek to the right, install two dams w/level controlling stand pipes, and dig out to the water table in the above photo. I paid my neighbor farmer to do the job with his big Cat 320 track hoe, the same machine he uses to keep his ditches cleaned out to dry his land. Yes, jamesp does get into the grunge work rockpickerforever. About have to rebuild the wife's Maytag clothes washer every two years. The rusty steel and the muddy plant biz has a toll on the cleaning equipment. You experienced my red clay... But I figured out that there is money in getting dirty. I do not know how many hundreds of days I have delivered $1000-$2000 worth of muddy stinky water plants in my pick up over 25 years. Loaded and left the house by 9AM and unloaded by noon and stopped at an upbeat Atlanta restaurant to eat. A muddy mess and getting stared at by all the yuppies and fair haired business people. In many cases probably made more money in one day than they made in a week. And they would die for my hours. Always raising my beer to them as they hustle to get back to their boss by 1PM.(best to arrive at 12:30PM) Restaurant staff much friendlier after the lunch rush, kick back and enjoy them. Mind you, the truck smells like a swamp gas and is full of rotting tadpoles frogs and an occasional snake. Leaking muddy water all over the parking lot, hopefully splattering on the adjacent BMW. It is what as known as getting paid to do the dirtiest work.(Dirty Jobs w/Mike Rowe....) Thinking colleges should teach such a course. And nothing feels better than a fresh shower afterwards.
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Post by mohs on Jan 1, 2016 8:59:00 GMT -5
right on James ! I'm trying to think of song to post for your stoking business mind I was thinking "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap" but that may only apply to your competitors
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Fire On!
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Post by Intheswamp on Jan 1, 2016 9:15:14 GMT -5
... But I figured out that there is money in getting dirty. I do not know how many hundreds of days I have delivered $1000-$2000 worth of muddy stinky water plants in my pick up over 25 years. Loaded and left the house by 9AM and unloaded by noon and stopped at an upbeat Atlanta restaurant to eat. A muddy mess and getting stared at by all the yuppies and fair haired business people. In many cases probably made more money in one day than they made in a week. And they would die for my hours. Always raising my beer to them as they hustle to get back to their boss by 1PM.(best to arrive at 12:30PM) Restaurant staff much friendlier after the lunch rush, kick back and enjoy them. Mind you, the truck smells like a swamp gas and is full of rotting tadpoles frogs and an occasional snake. Leaking muddy water all over the parking lot, hopefully splattering on the adjacent BMW. It is what as known as getting paid to do the dirtiest work.(Dirty Jobs w/Mike Rowe....) Thinking colleges should teach such a course. And nothing feels better than a fresh shower afterwards.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 1, 2016 12:39:56 GMT -5
right on James ! I'm trying to think of song to post for your stoking business mind I was thinking "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap" but that may only apply to your competitors Ha Ha Fire On! it is simple Ed, you need no business mind if you do what absolutely no one else wants to do. Nor will you have much competition. And you will have a large market if you have a half decent product. I promise, it woks. The worse part is having to work outside when it is real cold or hot.
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Post by mohs on Jan 1, 2016 14:29:17 GMT -5
That's kind how the industrial sharpening business was James dirty business heavy grind (although the new tooling as improved immensely) but it takes lots of room/space and its a cut throat business those sharpeners are keen to keep the edge give me a couple more years and I'll be able to specialize in say- barber shears and have an additional income & something to keep me busy anyway James your top notch even if your at rock bottom
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Post by jamesp on Jan 1, 2016 17:35:20 GMT -5
That's kind how the industrial sharpening business was James dirty business heavy grind (although the new tooling as improved immensely) but it takes lots of room/space and its a cut throat business those sharpeners are keen to keep the edge give me a couple more years and I'll be able to specialize in say- barber shears and have an additional income & something to keep me busy anyway James your top notch even if your at rock bottom tinkered welding and selling fire pits for really 6 years, Last year was more than all the pits sold in 4 years. Then this year hit and it was triple last year-go figure. All I can say is hook up w/a few contracts and get the name(reputation) out there on a small basis. Good rep w/a few people goes a long way. You know sharpening well, trick is to get business. rock bottom or swamp bottom ? Wife's friend calls me sewer sucker. Mud boy. Worm boy.
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Post by indiana on Jan 2, 2016 10:01:47 GMT -5
They welcome the removal since it competes with their grass to make hay and tangles their hay harvesting equipment. Talk about a muddy nasty job, but at a $1 per plant for wetland mitigation at resale I never remember complaining. Reminded me of what Story Musgrave, retired E.R. surgeon, NASA astronaut and many other things, does in his retirement. He works with developers in Florida. When they start a new project, they pay him to remove the palm trees and he replants them on his land. When they finish the development, they pay him to bring them back and plant them again. Not seeing such "obvious" money making ideas is one of the many things that keeps me from thinking I'm any brighter than anyone else.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 2, 2016 10:25:38 GMT -5
They welcome the removal since it competes with their grass to make hay and tangles their hay harvesting equipment. Talk about a muddy nasty job, but at a $1 per plant for wetland mitigation at resale I never remember complaining. Reminded me of what Story Musgrave, retired E.R. surgeon, NASA astronaut and many other things, does in his retirement. He works with developers in Florida. When they start a new project, they pay him to remove the palm trees and he replants them on his land. When they finish the development, they pay him to bring them back and plant them again. Not seeing such "obvious" money making ideas is one of the many things that keeps me from thinking I'm any brighter than anyone else. Right place at right time and a bit of luck supersedes all intelligence in many cases indiana. I have had the ways and means to start a half a dozen other businesses and failed at all of them. Being a loser and handling it well sure nuff helps matters. Teaches what not to do. Humans hard headed. Like a boxing match, the loser often gets ridiculed. But those that ridicule would not want to tangle with him. Just because he lost does not mean that he is not highly capable. Those old palms are being saved. I think I have some palms at Florida camp that are growing with first growth oaks. They must be 300+ years old. Gotta have some respect for them. There is an ATV to in the dark opening. Old tall palms to left. And then the shore line for many miles
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