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Post by toiv0 on Feb 2, 2016 21:05:40 GMT -5
Miss Pat,
Haven't heard anything here on your spoon exploits...I hope you didn't give up.
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Post by Pat on Feb 2, 2016 21:19:29 GMT -5
Miss Pat, Haven't heard anything here on your spoon exploits...I hope you didn't give up. Did not give up! Not giving up. Bought and installed appropriate buffs today. Hammered both your brass/bronze? spoon and my copper spoon. Been sanding/filing edges of both. Need to finish, then clean them. Eager to see the finished product. There will be a final product that I will use as soon as possible. It's been quite the enjoyable learning curve!
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Post by toiv0 on Feb 2, 2016 21:28:18 GMT -5
I am excited to see the results, I think the blank was brass.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 3, 2016 7:22:27 GMT -5
Go Pat !!
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Post by jamesp on Feb 3, 2016 12:53:00 GMT -5
OK Pat, his thread inspired me to clean up the anvils and whip out a small spoon. Made out of copper roofing. Need to get the buffer going, needs edges touched up. First anvil project in 3 years and out of practice. Took a while to figure hammering the bowl. Did that on a 1 inch mounted ball bearing anvil. Great teaching project.
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Post by toiv0 on Feb 3, 2016 13:20:31 GMT -5
nice bowl, kind of tricky if you don't hammer all the time
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Post by toiv0 on Feb 3, 2016 13:20:56 GMT -5
that would be nice bowl on that spoon
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Post by Pat on Feb 3, 2016 13:32:54 GMT -5
jamesp That is a lovely spoon! Now finish it and put it in your sugar bowl.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 3, 2016 14:26:53 GMT -5
It is so small and reduce sugar consumption Pat toiv0, agreed, forging best done when in practice and thanks.
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Post by toiv0 on Feb 3, 2016 18:47:27 GMT -5
I heard this morning that copper is antimicrobial, and kills lots of bacteria on contact, they are replacing door handles and such in hospitals with copper just because of that reason. Eating and cooking utinsels are a little trickier and you should not use them to serve or store honey...and lots of other things. Maybe get mad as a hatter...sorry thats another thread.
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Post by Pat on Feb 3, 2016 18:57:56 GMT -5
toiv0 just been googling to see if copper spoon could be used in the sugar bowl. So far, no real answer. Can't store honey in a copper vessel, but that is not the same. If I cannot use it in the sugar bowl, I'll hang it on the wall!
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Post by jamesp on Feb 4, 2016 9:17:20 GMT -5
They use copper laced paint on boat hulls to prevent barnacles. Additive for algaecides. Copper pots kill fish, it is hard on marine life.
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Post by Pat on Feb 6, 2016 20:38:18 GMT -5
I heard this morning that copper is antimicrobial, and kills lots of bacteria on contact, they are replacing door handles and such in hospitals with copper just because of that reason. Eating and cooking utinsels are a little trickier and you should not use them to serve or store honey...and lots of other things. Maybe get mad as a hatter...sorry thats another thread. Been snooping around google for more information. From what I've seen, copper kills 99.9% of "germs". I suspect that is just about everything except c-diff. Other issue is the food use. Boils down to don't use unclad copper for food. It negatively reacts with too many things for me to remember. I won't put my spoon in the sugar bowl, but I will find a use for it. First need to finish it!
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Post by toiv0 on Feb 7, 2016 5:26:57 GMT -5
Yes after googling copper toxicity I want to take out my copper pipes and replace them with something else that will kill me.... I wonder if I could do it with silver. You can use the silver spoon in your sugar bowl, waiting patiently to see your spoon.
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Post by metalsmith on Feb 7, 2016 16:42:24 GMT -5
There isn't anything wrong with using copper or silver as a sugarspoon, or with anything much. I'd stay clear of acids (pickles), but that's about it. great spoons btw.
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Post by Pat on Feb 15, 2016 20:20:32 GMT -5
2-15-2016 update Been working at how to get that great shine toiv0 get.s First tried Tripoli on the yellow muslin coarse wheel. Got the wheel black (from annealing) but that was about all. I could use a bigger pickle pot! Pickled it. Helped a lot. Used small brass wheel in Foredom. Helped a lot more. Tedious because the wheel is almost an inch in diameter. Ordered 6" brass coated brush wheel. Should arrive this week. What you see here is my spoon on the left and Billy's on the right. I spent more time on mind, but will shine and finish them both IMG_0160 by Pat, on Flickr What you see here is a close up of mine. Both were done with the little brass wheel seen at a the bottom of the first photo. IMG_0162 by Pat, on Flickr Still a bit of shaping and finishing to do on both. Learning a lot.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 15, 2016 20:29:23 GMT -5
A tricky thing to do Pat is a bowl shape. Like the bowl in the spoon. You got yours darn good.
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Post by toiv0 on Feb 15, 2016 20:37:10 GMT -5
Miss Pat, I don't pickle anything, especially copper or brass unless I want to remove the oxidation for further soldering. I use a 4 or 5 inch tight yellow muslim wheel with compound. The tripoli should be fine for pre polish. The brass brush will make a frosted surface, I wouldn't use. First I would use a fine sand paper not lower than a 320 to 400 grit, this will get rid of the major scratches. Then the yellow wheel with compound, don't be afraid to use some pressure (wear gloves it will get hot). Should be moderately polished at this point then use rouge or the zam for a high shine. It took about 20 seconds to shine the end of the brass one I sent. Remember to polish at different angles so there isn't any marks from going one way.
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Post by toiv0 on Feb 15, 2016 20:40:34 GMT -5
Oh, and a loose or soft white wheel for polish. Make sure you mark what you used them for so you never cross contaminate. You can drop them in a little plastic bag and label. I just write on my larger ones what they are used for
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Post by toiv0 on Feb 15, 2016 20:42:04 GMT -5
Oh and I forgot to mention "Nice spoons" you done good.
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