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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Jan 31, 2016 17:30:41 GMT -5
Got number two done and number three is in process right now. I know I had said in the first post that this copper is very hard but in truth it is not really an issue. I just clamp the piece in a vice and tap the prongs into place with the little plastic head hobby hammer Tela recommended. If someone wanted to be able to bend the prongs by hand it would not be possible but using tools it is really not an issue worth annealing for just to bend four tabs. I know most people thought I was going in the wrong direction by creating my bezel first but this really works for me. I think creating the cab first and having to match a bezel to it would be much harder. I have much more experience in cabbing then I do in metal though so I guess that makes sense. Here's the cut Making the cut in one pass allows the scrap to be used as a template for a perfect fitting cab Thanks for looking Chuck
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Post by orrum on Jan 31, 2016 18:16:56 GMT -5
I like that a lot!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 18:24:30 GMT -5
Nice!im with you.i fabricate my bezel first then use it as a template
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 31, 2016 19:22:06 GMT -5
Looks really good! You might want to check out a burnisher. Look around online and see if you have something in the shop, or you can make one- they are cheap, too. You run it along the edge of the metal to give it a nice polished, even look. It just adds a nice touch, I think and is quick and easy to do. I love that you use the metal for a template. Very clever. So, how are you liking it?
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Post by Pat on Jan 31, 2016 19:46:53 GMT -5
You can make a burnisher out of the handle of a toothbrush. However, a new metal burnisher is under $10.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Jan 31, 2016 19:48:58 GMT -5
Looks really good! You might want to check out a burnisher. Look around online and see if you have something in the shop, or you can make one- they are cheap, too. You run it along the edge of the metal to give it a nice polished, even look. It just adds a nice touch, I think and is quick and easy to do. I love that you use the metal for a template. Very clever. So, how are you liking it? I do have a roto-zip that is just a fancy version of a dremel. I can use all the dremel bits so I sure there is something like what your talking about. I'll have to research a little. I did plan on doing that to speed up the edge sanding and filing. Chuck
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 31, 2016 19:53:44 GMT -5
Burnishing is like a last step thing. You do it by hand. It's probably on youtube.
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Post by Pat on Jan 31, 2016 20:34:14 GMT -5
Hmmmmm, cutting the stone to fit the template would allow multiple uses of the same complete-with-tabs template.
Certainly something to consider!
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Jan 31, 2016 20:39:37 GMT -5
Hmmmmm, cutting the stone to fit the template would allow multiple uses of the same complete-with-tabs template. Certainly something to consider! That only works if you can make your cut nice and clean in one fell swoop. In the picture above you can see I used multiple entry points for my cut on the one on the left so then it cant be used for a template. I learned that one quick. Grind your preform close to the outside of your template line and fine tune from there. The shapes I have done so far have had nice flat edges so fine tuning on a flat lap with a 100 plate is simple. If there was a lot of contours it would add difficulty. Chuck
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Jan 31, 2016 20:41:08 GMT -5
Burnishing is like a last step thing. You do it by hand. It's probably on youtube. Ok I see burnishing tools at RIO. Added to my wish list. Should have one soon. Chuck
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Post by jamesp on Feb 1, 2016 9:35:39 GMT -5
Consider a vibe run too Chuck. Run the bezel with smalls, I use 500 finished granite pea gravel. It will mark your ceramic media. That big pile of bezel metal I tumbled was to be cut to size again in many cases. But only the cut needs to be burnished, the other three sides tumbled. I tumbled that big pile in the rotary, but gas buildup has to be monitored carefully. It took a good 3-5 days to get a well rounded edge on .020-.030 thick metal using SiC 220 I believe. Tumbled edge, close to actual size
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Feb 1, 2016 9:40:27 GMT -5
Consider a vibe run too Chuck. Run the bezel with smalls, I use 500 finished granite pea gravel. It will mark your ceramic media. That big pile of bezel metal I tumbled was to be cut to size again in many cases. But only the cut needs to be burnished, the other three sides tumbled. I tumbled that big pile in the rotary, but gas buildup has to be monitored carefully. It took a good 3-5 days to get a well rounded edge on .020-.030 thick metal using SiC 220 I believe. Tumbled edge, close to actual size I do a 3 hour run on these in a rotary with one pound of stainless jewelers shot, water and dawn dish soap. I wonder how much steel shot would be needed to try the loto? I worry about not having enough weight. The loto is not supposed to be run without a full weight load.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 1, 2016 9:52:41 GMT -5
To get such a rounded edge I had to use abrasives.
I would be nervous about filling a vibe to capacity with high density metal. Also nervous about not filling it to manufacturer's specs.
I suggest you fill your Lot-O with rock and add a piece of bezel material and do a test run. Maybe junk tumbles or 220 finished tumbles or obsidian chips. Treat the bezels like you do your cabs. 4.3 pounds of media(rocks) and 2 ounces of test metal.
I ran metal with polished granite pea gravel and could take it to the 3600 RPM 6 inch walmart bench grinder spinning a cloth buff pad coated with rouge/tripoli stick and get a polish. Loved the finishes derived from tumbling metal in rocks, fine satins and scratched/curly patterns. Another world.
I see addiction issues. I love metal. Can't wait to get back to it. The motor pulley on my big tumbler wore out and fell in two pieces. Been depressed, found a replacement, wife's 3/32 allen key,got to go change it out.
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Post by melhill1659 on Jan 15, 2017 11:38:53 GMT -5
Absolutely breathtaking!!
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Jan 15, 2017 12:45:35 GMT -5
Absolutely breathtaking!! Thank you!
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Post by accidentalrockhound on Jan 18, 2017 23:54:53 GMT -5
The King of pudding stones strikes again,i like them copper bezals and for some reason the copper and the pudding stone mix makes a Delicious combination!
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Post by pghram on Jan 20, 2017 19:25:04 GMT -5
I also really like the look. It's something a dude could wear.
Peace,
Rich
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