SteveHolmes
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Post by SteveHolmes on Oct 28, 2007 9:35:58 GMT -5
just a question I've been wanting to ask for some time. I have a 16" slab saw which was homemade. Whenever I cut for periods of time, I start to get the oil leaking out from under the sides. That oil seems to permeate through everything. It goes down one side particularly bad, and runs across the bottom of the saw, on the outside. When I'm done, I have to wipe everything down. Does anyone else have a problem with oil permeating through every little space, or is it just mine? I do have an idea of how to stop it...I just have to wait until Monday to go into the work and bend me some metal. Just curious though. Steve
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yogibear
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Post by yogibear on Oct 28, 2007 10:10:34 GMT -5
I have an old 16" saw that does the same thing. The funny thing is that it does it on the side away from the side that gets the heavy oil flow from the blade. The only way I see to stop it is most likely what you want to bend some metal for. Extend the cover down inside the side of the saw?
Bill
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SteveHolmes
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Post by SteveHolmes on Oct 28, 2007 10:41:20 GMT -5
Bill, Thanks for the reply...at least I don't own the only saw with this problem. My saw leaks in the same area. I am going to bend an "S" drive with a longer leg, so it slides on the inner flange of the lid, and extends down into the tub. I don't know I haven't already done this...it's just one of those things you think you can live with. Hopefully it works, and my problems will be solved. I'll post some before and after pics....and see how it works. Steve
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Post by johnjsgems on Oct 28, 2007 11:40:03 GMT -5
Your title nailed the problem. It isn't the splashing so much as the misting. A drive speed set too high will cause more heat and mist. Especially when cutting hard materials. I always run my HP saw at the slowest speed figuring why rush. I have plenty of things to do while the saw is slowly cutting. Much better for the blade too. And, my 24" blade costs a lot more than the rocks I am cutting.
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turnedstone
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Post by turnedstone on Oct 28, 2007 11:41:47 GMT -5
Hi Steve I went to tractor supply and got a pan used for pet cages .Put my saw down in the pan problem solved I also cover the front of my saw with a towel. Wait a few minutes after saw has stoped to open it up this will cut down on some misting. George
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SteveHolmes
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Post by SteveHolmes on Oct 28, 2007 11:47:53 GMT -5
Thanks guys, I don't think my drive speed is set too high, because it sometimes takes my 16" saw (what seems like forever) just to cut through smaller material. Although it's hard material, Bots and Brazilians. My saw is weight fed, so I always am cutting when I'm outside puttering around in my yard. George, thanks. I also have some rags around the front and back of the lid and hinges. This has stopped the misting out the back and front, but the darn oil still finds it's way out. Steve
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snowdog
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Post by snowdog on Oct 28, 2007 12:54:03 GMT -5
Steve-- I think all saws do that ! ;D --- anytime you spin a blade in liquid it is going to try to throw some everywhere -------- fine or finer it is going to get out ( at least some) --- you can slow it down but prob can't get it all stopped -------- my 18" 'er wants to run down the pipe legs --- collects on them like dew -- so I put four little cat food tins under them ( one on each leg -- not four under one ! ;D ) --- whenever they get 1/2 full I lift it up and get the can then just pour it back in the saw ---- only about once a year that I have to do that
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Post by catmandewe on Oct 28, 2007 21:13:30 GMT -5
My big saw loses oil like crazy, I have to dump in another 5 gallons for every 50 hours or so of cutting. I bent some metal to go inside and it helped a bit, but I am resigned to adding oil every once in a while. I do have a smaller saw, and it does not have near the problem that the big one does, still leaks a little, but I have not had to add any yet.
Tony
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Post by rocklicker on Oct 29, 2007 2:02:19 GMT -5
Mine does that too. I end up with oil on the floor and a fine coating of it on everything nearby due to the misting. I know it's because the lid doesn't fit tight, but I don't mind so much. It's not a lot. Steve
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Post by Jack ( Yorkshire) on Oct 31, 2007 3:38:09 GMT -5
Hi Steve,
I made a tin tray to collect the oil from my saw and have a drain into a bucket.
Georges Cat litter tray is a good Idea also you can get plant trays of the large size that are very usefull also
Drill a hole in a corner and tilt the tray slightly to it and collect in a bucket.
Jack Yorkshire UK
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turnedstone
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Post by turnedstone on Oct 31, 2007 18:29:33 GMT -5
Hi all I just went to harborfright and got one of their cheap plastic hand pumps and just pump mine back in the saw> That oil is so thin it leaks out of any thing that is not sealed really well. When I got my pan I put JB weld in each corner and around the inside and outside of each corner and after just over a year you can see the stain of the oil on the outside of the corners. George
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SteveHolmes
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Post by SteveHolmes on Nov 3, 2007 21:56:17 GMT -5
I think I may have my saw mist problems almost 99% solved. the first two pics show what my saw lid looks like as well as what I had around where my shaft goes out the saw. The lip on the lid is only maybe 3/4" long, and all I had around my shaft was a tin can. I fabricated two pieces of stainless at work. As you can see, I've just about added 2" leg on the one side, and even put a bend in the metal to where it snugs the inside of the saw. I did have to notch around a few things, but I think this is going to work really well. I also added a full length piece on the opposite side. I decided to keep the tin can just for added coverage. I didn't do much cutting, but from what I did, I noticed considerably less oil drips, in fact, hardly any. I'm going to cut tomorrow, so I'll really give the saw a test. So far....so Good! Steve
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Post by connrock on Nov 4, 2007 7:50:06 GMT -5
A tinknocker with a soda can for an oil deflector is like Michael Angelo with a paint roller!!!!!!LOL Shame on you Steve!!!!!!
Two things that may help you. An oil guard can be made from a bicycle fender and fit to swing up and down over the blade. Just like a guard on a table saw.This keeps the oil from flying around as much. The second thing is a simple rag hung carefully over the front of the bike fender in front of the blade.This stops a LOT of the misting.
Good Luck Rube!!!!! LOL
connrock
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SteveHolmes
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Post by SteveHolmes on Nov 4, 2007 23:31:25 GMT -5
C'mon Tom! I guess that's what 16 years in the trade will do to you. You find the easiest and softest material to use, and just go for it. Thanks for the other tips too. I cut a bunch of Brazilians today, and I have almost NO Leakage! I really think my stainless pieces have stopped the problem. I hardly even had to wipe anything after cutting for several hours. Steve
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Post by connrock on Nov 5, 2007 4:54:12 GMT -5
Steve, You're going to get some leakage no matter what you do. My old and tired 10" saw had so many drilled holes in it when I bought it (used) I had to put faucet washers on bolts screwed in from the inside out. I had a problem with a home made seal I made when I installed a windshield wiper but managed to get the leak stopped using what's called a "bulkhead" tubing fitting and O Ring. I also added a battery operated light but am going to change it to a LED or two. There are times I like to see what's going on in there and it was killing me listening to some odd noises every now and then.
The saw needs some serious work now but I really enjoy cutting and hate to have to shut it down.Now that I'm retired it runs almost all day so it's getting worse a lot faster.
Good luck with the Coke cans and body fender work! I'm one who believes in,,,,,if it aint broke don't fix it but if it is ,,,,fix it with whatcha got at hand!!
connrock
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