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Post by rockjunquie on May 4, 2016 8:54:44 GMT -5
Drummond Island Rocks I haven't posted any, yet. Here's the thread to give you an idea of what I'm doing. I haven't finished one. I am also using it to back stones. I have a thin labradorite with a killer blue killer that looks best backed with black and a chunk of chrysocolla druzy that needed a backing. The druzy was positively unsuited to doing a traditional doublet. The epoxy is perfect.
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Don
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Post by Don on May 4, 2016 10:34:54 GMT -5
You're all welcome to use whatever means to set your stones as you see fit, including epoxy and E6000. I will continue use traditional techniques that require pushing metal to secure a stone. No setting lasts forever, but the traditional ones have a long track record of success. I want my jewelry to last for as long as the metal does. Glue simply cannot compare in this respect.
If you are going to use a glue to secure a stone, use 2 part epoxy and properly prepare the surfaces to be bonded. E6000 is a terrible choice as it forms a far inferior bond between the metal and stone in comparison to other options. I've pulled many a stone out of E6000 settings with my fingers. If you want to use it as a "cushion" fine, but just make sure your stone is secured by some other means and for heavens sake clean up the excess glue that gets pushed out around the edges. Nothing looks worse than a stone setting with E6000 snot oozing out all around it. I have yet to see a single instance of E6000 forming the permanent, industrial strength, lasting bond that it is advertised as providing.
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Post by radio on May 4, 2016 13:55:00 GMT -5
Yes, it is just as good for jewelry purposes. The stuff in the tubs seems to have a higher steel content, so is likely more suitable for industrial uses such as metal repair. I have used JB weld in a pinch with no problems, but cant say enough good things about Devcon. Be careful when buying the Devcon in the syringe though. There are several variants and even a "plastic welder", so make sure you get the right stuff. Also, the syringe is mixed 50/50 and the tubs is 3 parts steell to one part hardner I got the tube kind for doing tumbles. The package says equal parts hardener and steel. Just wanted to point that out. I'm a believer in it now. Can't say good enough about it. [br Here you s a little tip for you. Use the masking tape around the stone positioned so that when the void is filled with plastic steel that it will level the stone. I overfill the void, then turn the stone right side up and gently press the stone down on top of a flat plastic lid so the excess oozes out the edges. When the steel hardens, the stone can be lifted off the plastic leaving a perfectly smooth surface on the steel. To clean up the edges i use either a file, or hit the edges on my 200 grit wheel.
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Post by metalsmith on May 4, 2016 14:15:29 GMT -5
Using glue to back up an inadequate mount is an inferior setting, plain and simple. Not a "hate" thing at all... I guess my point is mute anyway as I don't use glues anymore except to fix stuff. But I plan on using some 1/4 round heavy gauge silver to make a setting for something. I guarantee that the silver wont fold over the cab, you can hardly bend the damb stuff around a mandrel. Anyway just blowing off smoke. Tom I draw you to this. Consider setting from the reverse, along the lines of the bloodstone buckle I made. There are different approaches see Cogswell's Creative Stone Setting or Melissa Hunt's Stonesetting for Contemporary Jewellery Makers
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Post by metalsmith on May 4, 2016 14:23:32 GMT -5
I think it's a purest thing. Wire wrappers don't like glue, either. Maybe, using glue says that it wasn't done right in the first place? edit- I wasn't referring to anyone, I was just wondering if that were the thought process behind it. Purist ... then I guess I am.
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Post by ol3m3 on May 4, 2016 19:43:35 GMT -5
I was taught that using glue was a sign of poor craftsmanship, the use of a bezel to hold a stone in place is several thousand years old, and a proven way to hold a stone in place. Glue will cause problems later on, perhaps the stone will have to be removed to repair the finding with the glue being an additional complication in the repair process
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