Mark K
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Post by Mark K on Sept 7, 2016 10:22:03 GMT -5
I found something on Google Earth and wonder if anyone knows what it is.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 7, 2016 15:02:08 GMT -5
Visited there way back in 2004. We were actually camped at Lake Alamo for a week, just took a day trip here.
I'll bet you saw the huge tailings piles on Google Earth.
Map of the area, NE of Bouse
It is a ghost town/old copper mine. Some of the ruins
The "No 1 Reverberatory"
Way back a dozen years ago, I had already been bitten by the rock bug, but the addiction had not taken entire control over my life yet, lol. So probably wasn't paying a whole lot of attention to the rocks there.
I may have picked up a couple, not too much interested in copper ore though. This is the one thing that did come home with us - Leopard Lizard.
Just did a quick upload of photos taken there, didn't really sort through them. Here's a link to the flickr album.
ETA - Just thought I'd mention, this is a wilderness area now. Look but don't touch. However, we did not see anyone the entire time we were out there, had the place to ourselves...
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Post by Mark K on Sept 7, 2016 16:20:43 GMT -5
Good guess, but not what I had in mind. I found a place just south of the Green Streak Mine and it looks like a mine that has no name.
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Post by orrum on Sept 7, 2016 16:44:40 GMT -5
Swansea is a tough long drive! The ghost town is off limits for collecting. Lots of really good desert glass in the dumps. Lots of feral donkeys too. Beware of weather, if it rains the caliche mud is impossible and you can slide off a hill or the road. Lots of prospector coyote holed around there. It's a long drive from Bouse to the ghost town. Some organization is keeping the place from totally falling apart.
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Post by Mark K on Sept 7, 2016 17:19:38 GMT -5
OK, so what is this at these coordinates?
34° 8'58.66"N 113°48'23.11"W
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 7, 2016 18:06:50 GMT -5
OK, so what is this at these coordinates? 34° 8'58.66"N 113°48'23.11"W
If you look at a topo map of the area, there are prospects and adits marked all over out there. Just to the NE of your coordinates, there are mine shafts. Also either an Indian trail, or a quad trail. When I zoom in while in satellite mode, there is a backwards C-shaped thing just slightly to the SW of the coords. Thinking that may be a holding pen for livestock? For keeping the donkeys penned up? Hard to determine. The best zoom I can get on Acme Mapper in that area is about 10 meters = ~1/2" on the map.
Keep looking, Mark, let me know what it is??
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Post by Mark K on Sept 7, 2016 20:00:57 GMT -5
Normally C is for cookie, but in that neighborhood C is for Chysocholla. And I think that might be a mine. I spend a lot of time haunting those mountains online.
I was hoping someone had been there.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 8, 2016 11:04:23 GMT -5
If you look at a topo map of the area, there are prospects and adits marked all over out there. Just to the NE of your coordinates, there are mine shafts. Also either an Indian trail, or a quad trail. When I zoom in while in satellite mode, there is a backwards C-shaped thing just slightly to the SW of the coords. Thinking that may be a holding pen for livestock? For keeping the donkeys penned up? Hard to determine. The best zoom I can get on Acme Mapper in that area is about 10 meters = ~1/2" on the map.
Normally C is for cookie, but in that neighborhood C is for Chysocholla. And I think that might be a mine. I spend a lot of time haunting those mountains online. I was hoping someone had been there. Sorry, no. I have not wandered the desert out there. Like Bill said, it is a pretty desolate area. And it's not all that close to Swansea. Good luck with that (finding someone on RTH that has).
I said, "there is a backwards C-shaped thing just slightly to the SW of the coords." Not a letter "C" (cookie or not, lol).
B is the coordinates you gave (why the hell do you use the archaic hrs/min/sec? Decimal so much easier!) Just below that and to the left is the backwards C (man made structure?) I mentioned. D is approx. where the mine shaft is located on the topo map.
Hope you find out what it is!
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Post by Mark K on Sept 8, 2016 12:05:21 GMT -5
I do use the decimal, but that is how it came up on Google. I just didn't convert it.
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Post by orrum on Sept 8, 2016 12:15:04 GMT -5
Mark u b careful out there. No cell service so tell someone if u don't call them by dark to 911 you. Tell them if you went in from the Bouse side or the Parker side. If in trouble stay with the vehicle, much easier to spot from a distance. I know u r a trained professional bUT they make stupid mistakes and die out there just like the rookies! Just my 2 cents worth of caring about you pardner!
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Post by Tommy on Sept 8, 2016 14:58:44 GMT -5
Lincoln Ranch Rd. looks remarkable well-maintained from the satellite view - at least it doesn't look like deep sand like the wash it skirts on the way out. Probably an illusion aye Jean?
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Post by Mark K on Sept 8, 2016 15:10:40 GMT -5
LRR is very well maintained. It is by two places I go all of the time. If you are around when I am and can break free of your busy schedule, maybe I can show you the spots. Might even get the old Cowboy there too. The Brenda trip we went on is much harrier than this.
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Post by Tommy on Sept 8, 2016 15:17:44 GMT -5
LRR is very well maintained. It is by two places I go all of the time. If you are around when I am and can break free of your busy schedule, maybe I can show you the spots. Might even get the old Cowboy there too. The Brenda trip we went on is much harrier than this. When are you going? We'll be down there for sure in late January for the PowWow.
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Post by Mark K on Sept 8, 2016 15:25:01 GMT -5
Late Jan, early Feb.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 8, 2016 18:01:58 GMT -5
Lincoln Ranch Rd. looks remarkable well-maintained from the satellite view - at least it doesn't look like deep sand like the wash it skirts on the way out. Probably an illusion aye Jean?
No. Not an illusion, Tommy. Well, at least, the LRR was well maintained 12 years ago. That's what I remember. But road conditions are relative. Compared to the road (Powerline Rd, a maintenance road) we had just come down, it was a freakin' superhighway!
Looking back down the road we had just come up.
Looking forward (not really) to what was next.
Yeah, we came down that.
Once again (what fools we were back then, lol!), we were using a map in one of the dang Gem Trails books. You'd think we'd learn, but nooooooo.... Anyway, we had left Alamo Lake, heading south. At one point, the road swings to the left, heads for (I think) the Harcuvar Mountains, goes up and over and down into Wendon (on Hwy 60). Instead of curving to the left , you make a right turn (west) onto aforementioned Powerline Rd. At first it is in pretty good shape, but when it goes up over the first hill (and then another, and then another, etc), it gets less and less maintained. When we got to the base of that first hill, there was a jeep coming towards us. He had stopped to change a flat tire (are you listening, Mark?) because the sharp rocks had punctured a sidewall. Maybe we should have paid heed, and decided to go somewhere else? We had a brand new set of BFGs on our truck, so took the challenge. They did, however, get some chunks taken off the edges.
So after some miles and not a few challenging stretches, we came out on LRR. We made a right turn (northeast), and went up towards the ranch, then turned around and headed back southwest. We came out at Midway, then went back north up to Swansea.
So basically, we headed south from Alamo, then zigged back up to the northwest, then came down LRR (heavy line) to the southwest to Midway, then back up again to Swansea. A typical convoluted drive in the park when using those books! Why do those roads look so straight on maps?
Never did find the location for whatever it was we were looking for in the Gem Trails book. Typical!
Years ago, we were out hounding in the El Paso Mtns, lost, and saw a caravan of jeeps coming down a mountain. We stopped them to see if they could help us figure out where we were. I almost died when the driver pulled out the same gull darned book that had gotten us lost in the first place! Ah, the memories... Obviously, we did found our way back.
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Post by orrum on Sept 8, 2016 18:12:39 GMT -5
Hey yall know I will b there for Pow Wow!!! We go places I know and yall know!!!
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Post by Mark K on Sept 8, 2016 19:44:34 GMT -5
The sites on LRR are easy ones. Hard to find good Chryso, but it is there though.
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Post by vwfence on Oct 26, 2016 6:22:06 GMT -5
Just a heads up on this area . The Planet Ranch property has been sold to a Russian mining company and is off limits totally to collecting or trespass
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Post by vwfence on Oct 26, 2016 6:29:08 GMT -5
Just a heads up on this area . The Planet Ranch property has been sold to a Russian mining company and is off limits totally to collecting or trespass
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Post by Mark K on Oct 26, 2016 11:27:49 GMT -5
That has been a rumor for 10 years. Has it now been confirmed?
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