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Post by tims on Feb 17, 2017 18:50:09 GMT -5
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Post by orrum on Feb 17, 2017 18:56:02 GMT -5
Hey man you got lots with cool swirly pattern stuff going on in them! Nicr!!!
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Post by wigglinrocks on Feb 17, 2017 19:30:29 GMT -5
That's some nice looking material , shined up quite nicely
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Post by tims on Feb 17, 2017 21:35:55 GMT -5
Hey man you got lots with cool swirly pattern stuff going on in them! Nicr!!! Thanks! Swirly banded stuff is Teepee canyon, it fractures and chips like crazy but i can't resist it.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Feb 17, 2017 22:14:15 GMT -5
You've got some really pretty rocks there!
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Post by MrMike on Feb 18, 2017 5:47:51 GMT -5
Great looking batch tims. All self collected?
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Post by Garage Rocker on Feb 18, 2017 8:54:10 GMT -5
Nice batch, Tim! Good to get that first one under your belt. You find some nice material. Don't drop the next batch!
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Post by txrockhunter on Feb 18, 2017 9:04:02 GMT -5
Great batch of rocks! Thanks for sharing!
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Post by pghram on Feb 18, 2017 13:36:57 GMT -5
Nice batch, lots of color in there.
Peace,
Rich
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Post by tims on Feb 18, 2017 21:04:13 GMT -5
Great looking batch tims . All self collected? It's about half my finds and the rest yard finds from my grandparents' collection. All the dendritic stuff (not sure if it's Montana or Sweet water) came from a can i found in the shed. All the teepees are mine. There are a few yellow ones from Fairburn that started off really plain but show lots of color after tumbling, will probably have to cut them and see if they're banded. I'm tending to do everything completely backwards so far. Thanks for the encouragement everyone!
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Post by jamesp on Feb 19, 2017 5:58:12 GMT -5
Smoked it. Fine rotary tumble and colorful rocks. <star> for rotary Never have seen many of those. Well rounded, great job on them.
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Post by tims on Feb 19, 2017 18:34:48 GMT -5
Smoked it. Fine rotary tumble and colorful rocks. <star> for rotary Never have seen many of those. Well rounded, great job on them. Thanks Jim. Ran the 80 SiC / 80 AO / Polish method. Hoping to start running the AO stages in the Viking but i'm still wary of the weather. A buddy just dropped off a big tote full of Teepee scraps and i'm going to try running a batch of only teepees, though it will probably shrink enough in coarse i'll need to fill with other stuff eventually.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 19, 2017 20:39:29 GMT -5
Darn. You beat me to a rotary finish using AO 80 for middle step. Just started an AO 80 after SiC 30. This time going to let the AO 80 run longer like 14-18 days in attempt to get final polish. Or see how close it gets. How long did you run AO 80 ? How long on polish ?
Was hoping your buddy would drop some of that off here. Tee Pee has many variations, great stone.
what is the black rock ?
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Post by tims on Feb 19, 2017 22:17:06 GMT -5
Darn. You beat me to a rotary finish using AO 80 for middle step. Just started an AO 80 after SiC 30. This time going to let the AO 80 run longer like 14-18 days in attempt to get final polish. Or see how close it gets. How long did you run AO 80 ? How long on polish ? Was hoping your buddy would drop some of that off here. Tee Pee has many variations, great stone. what is the black rock ? I ran the AO80 for 10 1/2 days straight, and the polish one week (AO polish from Rock Shed). Not sure what the black rock is, dug it up from various piles around the yard. It was fairly round to start and matte black, thought possibly obsidian but it's very opaque ... Only the very thin pieces show slight translucence. About half of them shined up nice, the other half developed dings on the corners / edges:
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Post by jamesp on Feb 20, 2017 7:24:31 GMT -5
tims- Got a barrage of questions and a request. Will you take one of the frosted black rocks and crack it with a hammer ? Curious if it is obsidian; if it is it will break like glass. Did the white/clear quartz have any dings like the black rock ? Even slight dings or frost ? How much AO 80 and how much AO polish ? Did the slurry get thicker than water in the AO 80 run and was it still milk colored ? Did you have a slight shine after 10 days in AO 80 ? How full was the barrel during AO 80 run ? Did you run media during AO 80 run ? Or is the first photo the entire contents of the barrel ? The run time for the batch in the photo(assuming that is about 15 pounds) is 48 to 60 hours for AO 80 in the Viking, 18 hours in AO polish. Both w/Borax. However the white/clear quartz and (assuming) black obsidian may frost a bit depending on Viking settings. I would have replaced the white/clear quartz and obsidian with pea sized media and ran the balance of colored rocks in the Viking.
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Post by Fossilman on Feb 20, 2017 10:32:57 GMT -5
You have some great tumbles there-NICE!!!
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Post by tims on Feb 20, 2017 16:00:14 GMT -5
tims - Got a barrage of questions and a request. Will you take one of the frosted black rocks and crack it with a hammer ? Curious if it is obsidian; if it is it will break like glass. Did the white/clear quartz have any dings like the black rock ? Even slight dings or frost ? How much AO 80 and how much AO polish ? Did the slurry get thicker than water in the AO 80 run and was it still milk colored ? Did you have a slight shine after 10 days in AO 80 ? How full was the barrel during AO 80 run ? Did you run media during AO 80 run ? Or is the first photo the entire contents of the barrel ? The run time for the batch in the photo(assuming that is about 15 pounds) is 48 to 60 hours for AO 80 in the Viking, 18 hours in AO polish. Both w/Borax. However the white/clear quartz and (assuming) black obsidian may frost a bit depending on Viking settings. I would have replaced the white/clear quartz and obsidian with pea sized media and ran the balance of colored rocks in the Viking. I'll go smack one of the black ones here shortly and report back. - Almost all the quartz shattered when i dropped the batch, but aside from impact chips they don't show any dings or frosting. - I used 2 cups of AO80 with no thickener then 1 cup of polish + 3/4 cup sugar. Instructions call for 24 tbsp / 2.4 cups polish and i'm not going to be so stingy next time. That is my mantra now, that and "don't drop the rocks." - The slurry in 80 did thicken up and at the end looked like a melted vanilla milkshake. - After 10 days in AO80 only the pet wood had any shine, the rest was all smooth but matte. - Barrel in AO80 was 5/8 full, 5" up the 8" tall barrel. - I didn't use filler in AO80, just the rocks pictured. In polish i added marbles to fill the barrel to 3/4 (6" up the 8" barrel) - I ran a final burnish after cleanout with fill to 3/4, 1/2 a bar of ivory soap chips and a handful of plastic pellets. Will cut down the soap to about 1/8 bar next time.
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Post by tims on Feb 20, 2017 16:32:58 GMT -5
Black stuff looks like obsidian:
Hard to show the shine on the white quartz
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Post by jamesp on Feb 21, 2017 9:04:06 GMT -5
tims. Your AO 80 run and my AO 80 run seem very similar. Except I ran 1/2 cup AO 80 for 8 pounds of rock and had barrel a bit over 3/4 full of rocks. So less AO 80 and a fuller barrel. I did 80% rock fill because I had a 1.2 pound rock rolling in the batch. Same matte finish except a decent polish on the hardest of rocks like wood and coral. Thanks for the answers, and the melted milk shake is about the same slurry I had. Impressed that your quartz did not frost, not surprised some of the obsidian did frost. Obsidian delicate. Good call adding glass marbles to 80% on the polish run. And I have to add sugar in rotary polish, a pet peeve. 3-4 cups for 15 pounds rock. Used to add sugar for step 3 AO 500. But the AO 80 thickens the slurry nicely. Got a barrel doing AO 80 run now. May let it string out to 20-24 days to see if the rotary will slap a liquid on with just AO 80.
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