susnlar
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Post by susnlar on Apr 7, 2017 19:53:52 GMT -5
has anyone seen this type before? Found in NM, SW corner, while looking for apache tears. I have not yet found anyone who can identify it. It was found by the road where the rains had washed across the road bringing the apache tears out. I also found a small piece of broken pottery, which appeared pretty old looking. The rocks are not obsidian, rather more basaltic. Sorry, I couldn't figure out how to attach pics! www.flickr.com/gp/153287450@N03/RJe9EKwww.flickr.com/gp/153287450@N03/un1Ti8
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Post by Tommy on Apr 7, 2017 20:10:06 GMT -5
Hi susnlar welcome to RTH! I moved your post into the Rock Identification area so it will have the best chance of being responded to. Again, welcome. Tommy
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Post by Pat on Apr 7, 2017 22:29:36 GMT -5
Could that be part of the broken pottery? Looks like writing on it to me.
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Post by susnlar on Apr 8, 2017 1:17:09 GMT -5
Thanks for moving it Tommy. Pat, the pottery was definitely different, red on the outside and a grainy type of consistency(grey colored), on the inside. I thought it looked like writing too. I have another piece also that is more deteriorated but you can make out the same types of "engraving" (if that's what you would call it".
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Post by Tommy on Apr 8, 2017 1:26:38 GMT -5
You're welcome susnlar. I'm not able to see your pictures because I don't have a Yahoo account - I get hit with a login screen - so the curiosity is killing me haha. If you pass me a direct link to one of the photos (with .jpg on the end) I can help bring it up in your post. Other's here who use Flickr can probably tell you better how to come up with the direct link.
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Post by aDave on Apr 8, 2017 2:03:05 GMT -5
susnlar, with Flikr, you have the ability to copy and paste code that works in posting photos on this site. I'll make this as brief as I can. Go to your photostream in Flikr and click on the photo you'd like to post here. When that photo loads as a single photo, you should see a series of symbols in the lower right corner of the screen. The curved arrow is what you are looking for. Click on the curved arrow. After doing so, you should get a screen that says, "Share 1 photo to:". Select the BBCode tab. The code you see in the box is what you will copy and place in your post to show the photo. If you don't know, ctrl+c is copy, and ctrl+v is paste. After you've copied the BBCode, all you have to do is paste it directly in your post. Oh yeah, select "medium" as the size before you copy, as that attribute should be placed in the code you copy. So with your OP (original post), simply go edit it by deleting your old photo links and pasting in the new ones from the BBCode generator. Again, just place it directly. You don't have to select "link" or "image" from the formatting menu. Hope this helps. Dave
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Post by Sabre52 on Apr 8, 2017 8:31:20 GMT -5
Has the look of Anasazi/Mogollon pottery to me. They made quite a bit of pottery with that basket weave type relief pattern and the geographic region is right.....Mel
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Post by ziggy on Apr 10, 2017 20:33:16 GMT -5
Looks like pottery to me too.
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Post by gemfeller on Apr 10, 2017 21:37:43 GMT -5
I agree with Mel and can be even more specific. From the images it appears to be a shard of an Anasazi cooking pot. The cooking pots differed from storage pots because of the rope-like and other raised designs. They were often black with carbon from open fires. In the image the cooking pot pieces are on top and shards from decorated storage pots were on the bottom. I got these from a rancher who found them on his own land. I was going to make them into pendants for sale but got spooked because I had no way to prove the origin. I ground the outlines into rough shapes and was really surprised at how hard the material is even with diamond wheels. They seem to be made of materials in addition than clay.
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Post by metalsmith on Apr 11, 2017 16:53:03 GMT -5
There are a suite of tests you could do to establish whether it is pottery or basalt.
It does look basaltic to me, specifically, it appears to be a porphyritic basalt or porphyrite, further to the magma being delayed allowing crystals to form. Later, these would form a specific texture called graphic or cuneiform, according to the fact that they do look like ancient writing. Later, on exposure to the elements, the feldspar have been eroded out.
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Post by susnlar on Apr 14, 2017 9:07:03 GMT -5
Thanks for all the input so far. Still not able to attach the pics from my iPhone. Will keep trying. I did try scratching it with a screw and it leaves a little white line that doesn't wipe away. There is a smaller second piece that is much more weathered looking but can still make out similar design (or whatever it is called).
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Post by aDave on Apr 14, 2017 12:27:43 GMT -5
Thanks for all the input so far. Still not able to attach the pics from my iPhone. Will keep trying. I did try scratching it with a screw and it leaves a little white line that doesn't wipe away. There is a smaller second piece that is much more weathered looking but can still make out similar design (or whatever it is called). Hmmm. Can't help you there. I was offering instructions from a computer browser. Are you on Tapatalk? melhill1659 is a guru with it, and she posts pics all the time. Perhaps she'll jump in or you can PM her for help. Regards. Dave
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Post by melhill1659 on Apr 16, 2017 7:27:42 GMT -5
has anyone seen this type before? Found in NM, SW corner, while looking for apache tears. I have not yet found anyone who can identify it. It was found by the road where the rains had washed across the road bringing the apache tears out. I also found a small piece of broken pottery, which appeared pretty old looking. The rocks are not obsidian, rather more basaltic. Sorry, I couldn't figure out how to attach pics! www.flickr.com/gp/153287450@N03/RJe9EKwww.flickr.com/gp/153287450@N03/un1Ti8Welcome from Mississippi, hope you don't mind me helping out with your pics: ,
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Post by metalsmith on Apr 16, 2017 13:54:23 GMT -5
It doesn't look random enough to be graphitic texture - in lines: I'd recommend you check out the pottery links first.
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Post by grizman on Apr 16, 2017 14:56:15 GMT -5
I don't have the slightest idea of what it might be, but I am sharp enough to say that it is certainly very interesting no matter what it might be. It would be in the front row of my display cabinet!
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Post by melhill1659 on Apr 16, 2017 17:10:35 GMT -5
It reminds me of the caves that were carved out of the side of a mountain.
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Post by metalsmith on Apr 17, 2017 10:23:43 GMT -5
It reminds me of the caves that were carved out of the side of a mountain. well ok...
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Post by melhill1659 on Apr 17, 2017 12:25:14 GMT -5
It reminds me of the caves that were carved out of the side of a mountain. well ok... I say that because it could be pottery that they carved to look like their houses 😂 SQUIRREL
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Post by Peruano on Apr 17, 2017 19:17:29 GMT -5
its like no pottery I've ever seen.
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Post by metalsmith on Apr 18, 2017 0:32:16 GMT -5
its like no pottery I've ever seen. Looking at the matrix with a x10 loupe should establish what the material is. That is going to be key to working out whether you have graphitic texture or engraved writing. The 'engraving' appears to be very (too) deep. The graphitic texture appears to be very (too) organised. What the sample comprises is going to be key, one suspects.
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