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Post by jamesp on Jan 4, 2018 7:42:09 GMT -5
MsAliI do like the machine made glass from the aspect of having finer layers than blown glass, or it seems that way. Tighter color banding makes for cool pendant size tumbles. If the bands are 1/4 to 1/2 inch apart it is not so easy to pack the 'rainbow' into small 1 to 1.5 inch tumbles. If I find this design the hammer will come down. Looking for this. Wish I had dozens.(looks expensive, probably get in trouble for destroying such) millefiori
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Post by captbob on Jan 4, 2018 8:19:47 GMT -5
You have any BIG flea markets up around you? Might be a place to check. People sell the goofiest stuff there.
Nice looking tumbles.
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Post by kevin24018 on Jan 4, 2018 8:21:03 GMT -5
Rooster breast day 6. Early in tumble so it is getting a few small divots from the high speed grind at 63 RPM in an 8 inch barrel w/bulk grit. Next clean out will move to 30 RPM and SiC 50 to remove damage. very cool, I am a breast man, interpret that as you will lol
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Post by jamesp on Jan 4, 2018 8:54:06 GMT -5
Rooster breast day 6. Early in tumble so it is getting a few small divots from the high speed grind at 63 RPM in an 8 inch barrel w/bulk grit. Next clean out will move to 30 RPM and SiC 50 to remove damage. very cool, I am a breast man, interpret that as you will lol More in to dark meat myself, thighs...
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Post by jamesp on Jan 4, 2018 9:01:56 GMT -5
You have any BIG flea markets up around you? Might be a place to check. People sell the goofiest stuff there. Nice looking tumbles. Some of the best places to shop for glass is the damaged and lost freight shops. Lots of cool import glass in those stores. Atlanta is a serious distribution town and stuff gets misplaced in the warehouses. Scott's Antiques, might be the biggest flea market in the world. 2nd weekend of every month. Might be the size of 4 Home Depots inside, then the outdoor vendors. Guessing I could set up and sell fire pits. 3-12 hour days, no thanks.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 4, 2018 9:03:41 GMT -5
MsAli I do like the machine made glass from the aspect of having finer layers than blown glass, or it seems that way. Tighter color banding makes for cool pendant size tumbles. If the bands are 1/4 to 1/2 inch apart it is not so easy to pack the 'rainbow' into small 1 to 1.5 inch tumbles. If I find this design the hammer will come down. Looking for this. Wish I had dozens.(looks expensive, probably get in trouble for destroying such) millefiori Oh good lord, for a second I died and then I reread what you said. Please do not hammer anything that looks like this without consultation. Do you have a Home Goods or Ross out there? Sometimes on clearance you can get some cheap pieces.
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Post by fantastic5 on Jan 4, 2018 9:08:28 GMT -5
Most impressed with the way that rooster is tumbling. Much better than I anticipated.
Kudos!!
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Post by jamesp on Jan 4, 2018 9:48:39 GMT -5
MsAli I do like the machine made glass from the aspect of having finer layers than blown glass, or it seems that way. Tighter color banding makes for cool pendant size tumbles. If the bands are 1/4 to 1/2 inch apart it is not so easy to pack the 'rainbow' into small 1 to 1.5 inch tumbles. If I find this design the hammer will come down. Looking for this. Wish I had dozens.(looks expensive, probably get in trouble for destroying such) millefiori Oh good lord, for a second I died and then I reread what you said. Please do not hammer anything that looks like this without consultation. Do you have a Home Goods or Ross out there? Sometimes on clearance you can get some cheap pieces. Home Goods has been #1. There are 6 of them in Atlanta. I visited two. They for some reason are loaded with Italian glass(Murano process so they are labeled). Then Ross, Marshalls, TJ Max, Tuesday Morning, Goodwill which must add up to 30-40 stores. I think $100 would keep the tumblers going for a couple of years. Actually way cheaper than rocks. Cheap glass must not be popular. It seems to sit on the shelf. Looks like the glass will get coarse tumbled in mass and set aside. Been chunking it in 15 to 25 pound barrels. Grinding away, it shapes fast on a smidgen of abrasive. May categorize the rough by color. Then pick a few out of each category for a colorful vibe tumble. Now I may have to spend a bit on a millefiori. $10,000 flea market found Murano's etc. Should those items be tumbled in secret ? Avoid castration...
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Post by MsAli on Jan 4, 2018 10:47:43 GMT -5
Oh good lord, for a second I died and then I reread what you said. Please do not hammer anything that looks like this without consultation. Do you have a Home Goods or Ross out there? Sometimes on clearance you can get some cheap pieces. Home Goods has been #1. There are 6 of them in Atlanta. I visited two. They for some reason are loaded with Italian glass(Murano process so they are labeled). Then Ross, Marshalls, TJ Max, Tuesday Morning, Goodwill which must add up to 30-40 stores. I think $100 would keep the tumblers going for a couple of years. Actually way cheaper than rocks. Cheap glass must not be popular. It seems to sit on the shelf. Looks like the glass will get coarse tumbled in mass and set aside. Been chunking it in 15 to 25 pound barrels. Grinding away, it shapes fast on a smidgen of abrasive. May categorize the rough by color. Then pick a few out of each category for a colorful vibe tumble. Now I may have to spend a bit on a millefiori. $10,000 flea market found Murano's etc. Should those items be tumbled in secret ? Avoid castration... It really would be cheaper than rocks. Glass in general is art and I guess it just depends on peoples taste and what their home design is. I am a glass snob, so I don't pick up anything that isn't vintage. Those stores carry mass produced items that will never have any real value so I have never bought glass from them. The thrill of going to a thrift store-estate-yard sale etc. and picking up a piece for cheap that is worth hundreds and is real art ----priceless! There are some cheap knockoff Millefiori around-some years ago the Chinese put a bunch of paperweights and vases out in this design-smash away. If you find any Murano (or any other of my loves) please keep it a secret if you were to be so inclined to put the hammer to it-seriously you will kill me, so I would not be able to administer any form of castration. *Maybe I would have to designate someone to do that for me-
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Post by youp50 on Jan 4, 2018 10:49:38 GMT -5
Which makes me wonder if two weeks at slow speed, 60 grit would shape the glass without the bruising. Perhaps soft material would respond better to soft methods.
I have a yard or so of copper smelter byproduct glass under a few feet of snow. A late spring project.
A memory of the slag being dumped by the rail car at night was awe inspiring. After the mine closed some outfit bought it all for sandpaper. It was cheap filler used by cheap people in driveways, it never packs and the wrong piece frozen in the wrong way cut tires in two when spinning to gain traction in snow. As a concrete filler, I doubt it added strength to the blend, I have been frustrated trying to hammer drill holes in concrete slabs. It seems to defy common masonry bits. Rodbuster bits would work.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 4, 2018 11:14:09 GMT -5
Which makes me wonder if two weeks at slow speed, 60 grit would shape the glass without the bruising. Perhaps soft material would respond better to soft methods. I have a yard or so of copper smelter byproduct glass under a few feet of snow. A late spring project. A memory of the slag being dumped by the rail car at night was awe inspiring. After the mine closed some outfit bought it all for sandpaper. It was cheap filler used by cheap people in driveways, it never packs and the wrong piece frozen in the wrong way cut tires in two when spinning to gain traction in snow. As a concrete filler, I doubt it added strength to the blend, I have been frustrated trying to hammer drill holes in concrete slabs. It seems to defy common masonry bits. Rodbuster bits would work. That just reminded me, my dad has a really cool piece of slag that was pulled out of one of the mine pits-might just have to sneak it back with me one day and pull a jamesp and "take a hammer to it"
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jan 4, 2018 11:19:35 GMT -5
Oh, so THAT'S the rooster, jamesp! He is/was beautiful, but the tumbles are looking pretty spiffy.
Sucks to be away for ten days. Missed this one.
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Post by Garage Rocker on Jan 4, 2018 12:04:35 GMT -5
Here's some of what I have in the tumblers, jamesp. Still sitting idle for the time being.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 4, 2018 13:05:35 GMT -5
Most impressed with the way that rooster is tumbling. Much better than I anticipated. Kudos!! Thanks Ann. Who would tumble a poor rooster ? Come to Atlanta and we'll hit all the outlet stores if you want to load up on glass.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 4, 2018 13:09:59 GMT -5
Here's some of what I have in the tumblers, jamesp. Still sitting idle for the time being. I hope you will make them smaller. Lest you got some tumbling tricks up your sleeve to avoid bruises. I am fooling around with sugar thickener again on the glass. Looks to be working in the way of preventing bruises. Sticky hands though. Double pretty glass, can't wait. I always run a few tempered table top glass pieces in the load to see if bruises are happening. It is really soft, I know it is soft because it rounds about 3 times faster than bottle and chunk glass in the rotary. it is this glass, I knew I had glass mastered when this stuff polished with only 40% media.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 4, 2018 13:12:51 GMT -5
Oh, so THAT'S the rooster, jamesp! He is/was beautiful, but the tumbles are looking pretty spiffy.
Sucks to be away for ten days. Missed this one. Hard to cook an old rooster Jean. Might as well break it into pieces and tumble. Reminds me of some bantam roosters I had, meanest critters. don't turn your back or he'll climb you.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 4, 2018 13:21:10 GMT -5
Which makes me wonder if two weeks at slow speed, 60 grit would shape the glass without the bruising. Perhaps soft material would respond better to soft methods. I have a yard or so of copper smelter byproduct glass under a few feet of snow. A late spring project. A memory of the slag being dumped by the rail car at night was awe inspiring. After the mine closed some outfit bought it all for sandpaper. It was cheap filler used by cheap people in driveways, it never packs and the wrong piece frozen in the wrong way cut tires in two when spinning to gain traction in snow. As a concrete filler, I doubt it added strength to the blend, I have been frustrated trying to hammer drill holes in concrete slabs. It seems to defy common masonry bits. Rodbuster bits would work. That just reminded me, my dad has a really cool piece of slag that was pulled out of one of the mine pits-might just have to sneak it back with me one day and pull a jamesp and "take a hammer to it" No glass should go un-hammered ?
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Post by jamesp on Jan 4, 2018 13:30:02 GMT -5
Which makes me wonder if two weeks at slow speed, 60 grit would shape the glass without the bruising. Perhaps soft material would respond better to soft methods. I have a yard or so of copper smelter byproduct glass under a few feet of snow. A late spring project. A memory of the slag being dumped by the rail car at night was awe inspiring. After the mine closed some outfit bought it all for sandpaper. It was cheap filler used by cheap people in driveways, it never packs and the wrong piece frozen in the wrong way cut tires in two when spinning to gain traction in snow. As a concrete filler, I doubt it added strength to the blend, I have been frustrated trying to hammer drill holes in concrete slabs. It seems to defy common masonry bits. Rodbuster bits would work. If you fill the barrel proportioned 1/2 with quartz pea gravel and 1/2 with glass, and to 85% fill, roll it slow, it will be the most gentle run you can imagine youp. It makes a purring sound. Mind you, it does not shape fast but the SiC 60(I prefer AO 80)will skin that bruised layer off without gifting you more bruises in return. Gotta loose the bruises. They are about 5 or 10 500 grit layers deep. 500 will take forever to remove them, but the 60 grit will. And 220 or 500 will shave off the damage from the 60 grit. If you bruise it in stage 3 or 4 it is back to the 60 grit. Glass is NOT forgiving.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 4, 2018 13:40:56 GMT -5
That just reminded me, my dad has a really cool piece of slag that was pulled out of one of the mine pits-might just have to sneak it back with me one day and pull a jamesp and "take a hammer to it" No glass should go un-hammered ? *sigh....
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Post by kevin24018 on Jan 4, 2018 13:53:04 GMT -5
Here's some of what I have in the tumblers, jamesp. Still sitting idle for the time being. I hope you will make them smaller. Lest you got some tumbling tricks up your sleeve to avoid bruises. I am fooling around with sugar thickener again on the glass. Looks to be working in the way of preventing bruises. Sticky hands though. Double pretty glass, can't wait. I always run a few tempered table top glass pieces in the load to see if bruises are happening. It is really soft, I know it is soft because it rounds about 3 times faster than bottle and chunk glass in the rotary. it is this glass, I knew I had glass mastered when this stuff polished with only 40% media. have you ever used corn starch?
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