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Post by 1dave on Oct 23, 2021 10:10:06 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutodidacticismAutodidacticism (also autodidactism) or self-education (also self-learning and self-teaching) is education without the guidance of masters (such as teachers and professors) or institutions (such as schools). Generally, autodidacts are individuals who choose the subject they will study, their studying material, and the studying rhythm and time. Autodidacts may or may not have formal education, and their study may be either a complement or an alternative to formal education. Many notable contributions have been made by autodidacts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Henri_Fabre Jean-Henri Casimir Fabre (21 December 1823 – 11 October 1915) was a French naturalist, entomologist, and author known for the lively style of his popular books on the lives of insects.[1] Fabre was born on 21 December 1823 in Saint-Léons in Aveyron, France. Fabre was largely an autodidact, owing to the poverty of his family. Nevertheless, he acquired a primary teaching certificate at the young age of 19 and began teaching in Carpentras whilst pursuing further studies. In 1849, he was appointed to a teaching post in Ajaccio (Corsica), then in 1853 moved on to the lycée in Avignon.[2] Fabre was a popular teacher, physicist, chemist and botanist. However, he is probably best known for his findings in the field of entomology, the study of insects, and is considered by many to be the father of modern entomology. Much of his enduring popularity is due to his marvellous teaching ability and his manner of writing about the lives of insects in biographical form, which he preferred to a clinically detached, journalistic mode of recording.[citation needed] In doing so he combined what he called "my passion for scientific truth" with keen observations and an engaging, colloquial style of writing. Fabre (translated) wrote:
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Post by brotherbill on Oct 23, 2021 16:04:05 GMT -5
The use of "autodidacte" is more commonly used in French than autodidact is used in English which led me to believe it's origin was French. However a quick search turned up "autodidaktos" which is the Greek origin of the word.
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Post by amygdule on Oct 23, 2021 17:34:02 GMT -5
Who makes up these words
Anyways...
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Post by gemfeller on Oct 23, 2021 18:58:00 GMT -5
Who makes up these words Anyways... Anyway...my long-ago high school class in etymology (put simply, the history of words) has been one of the most useful educational tools in my life. Most "root" words in English and the so-called "romance languages" (French, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish and Romanian) come from Latin and Greek. Knowing them helps to understand many previously unknown English words immediately without the use of a dictionary. "Auto": a word-forming element meaning 'self, one's own, by oneself, of oneself;' and "didact": "fitted for instruction or teaching."" Automobile anyone? English is a kleptomaniac language: it steals words and phrases from other languages without shame. And it's a creative language, contributing new words constantly from popular usage. Shakespeare alone is credited with "inventing" at least 420 "new" words, though it's likely they were in common use during his time and he was the just first to put them into print.
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Post by Pat on Oct 23, 2021 19:16:39 GMT -5
I agree gemfeller. Words are alive, constantly changing in meaning due to time, place, geography, class/status, and immigration. It’s a good thing. And it is fun.
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Post by gemfeller on Oct 23, 2021 19:36:12 GMT -5
I agree gemfeller . Words are alive, constantly changing in meaning due to time, place, geography, class/status, and immigration. It’s a good thing. And it is fun. Pat , I totally agree. And I'm wondering why no one has so far jumped me about gently "correcting" the use of "anyways" for "anyway." I admit to being something of a language traditionalist and I have to catch myself now and then from falling into trap of being "stuffy." While that usage grates on me like the screech of fingernails on a chalk board, it's actually a perfect example of how language changes. I'm sure the Oxford English Dictionary will soon accept it as correct if it hasn't happened already.
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Post by Pat on Oct 23, 2021 19:48:26 GMT -5
… take “ain’t” for example…
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Post by pizzano on Oct 23, 2021 19:52:09 GMT -5
Who makes up these words Anyways... Anyway...my long-ago high school class in etymology (put simply, the history of words) has been one of the most useful educational tools in my life. Most "root" words in English and the so-called "romance languages" (French, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish and Romanian) come from Latin and Greek. Knowing them helps to understand many previously unknown English words immediately without the use of a dictionary. "Auto": a word-forming element meaning 'self, one's own, by oneself, of oneself;' and "didact": "fitted for instruction or teaching."" Automobile anyone? English is a kleptomaniac language: it steals words and phrases from other languages without shame. And it's a creative language, contributing new words constantly from popular usage. Shakespeare alone is credited with "inventing" at least 420 "new" words, though it's likely they were in common use during his time and he was the just first to put them into print. Interesting.....while I was in parochial school until 7th grade, we were taught Latin as the base language for all "romantics" as well as English. We were also taught that the alphabet acquired for the written English had Egyptian/Phoenician origins....and the spoken English had Germanic origins........English not being a "romantic" as defined by Latin........?....nothing I learned later in college deviated from that as far as I know......lol
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Post by mohs on Oct 23, 2021 20:11:16 GMT -5
Now I’m wondering if I pluralize the word?
I use it all the time
Anyways, hope your having fine day
Mostly
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Post by Rockoonz on Oct 23, 2021 20:54:25 GMT -5
Would not Autodidacticism be the primary indicator of intelligence, where testing would merely be accrued knowledge? Classical Liberal education sought only to train the mind to think and process input, a far throw from the modern model of filling brains with information, often questionable information.
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Post by stephan on Oct 23, 2021 21:13:13 GMT -5
Who makes up these words Anyways... Anyway...my long-ago high school class in etymology (put simply, the history of words) has been one of the most useful educational tools in my life. Most "root" words in English and the so-called "romance languages" (French, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish and Romanian) come from Latin and Greek. Knowing them helps to understand many previously unknown English words immediately without the use of a dictionary. "Auto": a word-forming element meaning 'self, one's own, by oneself, of oneself;' and "didact": "fitted for instruction or teaching."" Automobile anyone? English is a kleptomaniac language: it steals words and phrases from other languages without shame. And it's a creative language, contributing new words constantly from popular usage. Shakespeare alone is credited with "inventing" at least 420 "new" words, though it's likely they were in common use during his time and he was the just first to put them into print. 420 words... hmmm...
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Post by stephan on Oct 23, 2021 21:23:19 GMT -5
Anyway...my long-ago high school class in etymology (put simply, the history of words) has been one of the most useful educational tools in my life. Most "root" words in English and the so-called "romance languages" (French, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish and Romanian) come from Latin and Greek. Knowing them helps to understand many previously unknown English words immediately without the use of a dictionary. "Auto": a word-forming element meaning 'self, one's own, by oneself, of oneself;' and "didact": "fitted for instruction or teaching."" Automobile anyone? English is a kleptomaniac language: it steals words and phrases from other languages without shame. And it's a creative language, contributing new words constantly from popular usage. Shakespeare alone is credited with "inventing" at least 420 "new" words, though it's likely they were in common use during his time and he was the just first to put them into print. Interesting.....while I was in parochial school until 7th grade, we were taught Latin as the base language for all "romantics" as well as English. We were also taught that the alphabet acquired for the written English had Egyptian/Phoenician origins....and the spoken English had Germanic origins........English not being a "romantic" as defined by Latin........?....nothing I learned later in college deviated from that as far as I know......lol English is quite eclectic -- Romantic, Germanic and Celtic roots, plus numerous imported words.
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Post by mohs on Oct 23, 2021 21:29:21 GMT -5
to stone or not to stone that is the question... ~mohspeare
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Post by amygdule on Oct 23, 2021 21:31:29 GMT -5
420 words ago I was exasperated From talking to much
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Post by parfive on Oct 23, 2021 21:48:28 GMT -5
So it ain't French for hangin' yourself in the closet, eh?
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Post by parfive on Oct 23, 2021 21:52:07 GMT -5
Ok, all you budding Shakespeares, whatcha got . . .
auto + didact + the hard way = ?
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Post by mohs on Oct 23, 2021 21:54:52 GMT -5
school of hard rocks
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Post by 1dave on Oct 24, 2021 7:33:22 GMT -5
Alexander Pope (21 May 1688 – 30 May 1744) wrote -
"The youthful blockhead, ignorantly read with loads of learned lumber in his head."
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Post by mohs on Oct 24, 2021 15:03:07 GMT -5
learned a lot from Mr. Pope
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Post by gemfeller on Oct 25, 2021 1:16:30 GMT -5
Anyway...my long-ago high school class in etymology (put simply, the history of words) has been one of the most useful educational tools in my life. Most "root" words in English and the so-called "romance languages" (French, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish and Romanian) come from Latin and Greek. Knowing them helps to understand many previously unknown English words immediately without the use of a dictionary. "Auto": a word-forming element meaning 'self, one's own, by oneself, of oneself;' and "didact": "fitted for instruction or teaching."" Automobile anyone? English is a kleptomaniac language: it steals words and phrases from other languages without shame. And it's a creative language, contributing new words constantly from popular usage. Shakespeare alone is credited with "inventing" at least 420 "new" words, though it's likely they were in common use during his time and he was the just first to put them into print. Interesting.....while I was in parochial school until 7th grade, we were taught Latin as the base language for all "romantics" as well as English. We were also taught that the alphabet acquired for the written English had Egyptian/Phoenician origins....and the spoken English had Germanic origins........English not being a "romantic" as defined by Latin........?....nothing I learned later in college deviated from that as far as I know......lol Yes, Latin is the base for the Romantics. But both the Romantics and English absorbed many roots from Greek.
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