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Post by ziggy on Apr 13, 2017 21:14:31 GMT -5
Isn't the black Biotite or something ? Well, to be honest, it doesn't even matter. I don't care what it is. I just thought they were black gabbro with pink stuff in them. That's what I'm calling them. Now. Why did I bother to post them would be my next question. Don't answer.... I'm asking myself.
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Post by ziggy on Apr 13, 2017 9:17:21 GMT -5
I should have called it black gabbro or black granite. It looks like a kitchen counter except for the inclusions. It's sparkly black. Yes I think it is a kind of feldspar. The pink stuff has no feldspar flash at all. You can tell the pink is not any kind of chatoyant mineral though like most feldspars are. I believe the sparkles in the black are feldspar planes causing the flash. Well gabbro is similar too but different from granite (I forget the difference). So the black and pink components are likely both gabbro. Thank you for mixing me up even more
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Post by ziggy on Apr 12, 2017 21:21:25 GMT -5
Doesn't gabbro have feldspar? I should have called it black gabbro or black granite. It looks like a kitchen counter except for the inclusions. It's sparkly black. Yes I think it is a kind of feldspar. The pink stuff has no feldspar flash at all. You can tell the pink is not any kind of chatoyant mineral though like most feldspars are. I believe the sparkles in the black are feldspar planes causing the flash.
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Post by ziggy on Apr 12, 2017 18:36:33 GMT -5
Also groove wrapped this small datolite cab. The fit on the wire near the top sucks but it is what it is.
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Post by ziggy on Apr 12, 2017 18:19:11 GMT -5
We picked up this gabbro mixed with something tan to pink on a Michigan back road. Been making some pendants from it. It has the granite countertop look in the black parts ( the gabbro) and I have no clue what the light colored inclusions are. Wrapped in a simple minimal groove wrap to highlight the stone. That one again with two others. The one on the left is also groove wrapped. The one on the right has a copper rolled mount.
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Post by ziggy on Apr 10, 2017 20:33:16 GMT -5
Looks like pottery to me too.
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Post by ziggy on Apr 9, 2017 21:48:24 GMT -5
Scott: about a 5 on the Mohs. Have not not done a streak test ToiviO: Remember, this has been through a house fire, so could have changed the color. The pattern is not not out of the realm of possibilities for Greenstone. Ziggy: Thanks, I'll check it out Tela: Color is right, but I've never seen Olivine with a turtle shell pattern Greenstones don't get real big. Quarter sized ones are museum pieces. The largest one known is 1 1/2" x 3". Pea sized ones are typical. Based on the fact that it was cabbed plus it is still quarter sized, would make it a fairly rare stone, but by the same token makes it even more unlikely to be a greenstone.
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Post by ziggy on Apr 9, 2017 19:22:35 GMT -5
Tried to load a pic of the back side, but photobucket isn't cooperating I found a site that is way faster than dodobucket. Try https:postimage.io
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Post by ziggy on Apr 9, 2017 9:02:30 GMT -5
It has some of the characteristics of a variolite but not the same as others I've found. Green slightly raised bumps. Wierd speckled rust colored and green matrix...... ?? Variolite? It's about as big as a really big Idaho Spud.
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Post by ziggy on Apr 9, 2017 8:56:22 GMT -5
I don't think its greenstone. toivO is correct. Not a greenstone.
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Post by ziggy on Mar 13, 2017 12:37:44 GMT -5
Based on my exhaustive research I can officially conclude that the "only hit wooden stakes" warning label attached to this "ROCK HAMMER" is an embarrassment to have to see. The fact that this 🔨 has this label is ridiculous. I will wear my safety goggles and use the hammer as it was intended to be used, on rocks, not wooden stakes just like the professional geologists do. If a hunk of the hammer ends up in my arm I already know I can't sue so their tactic to prevent lawsuits works like they designed it to even if their hammer doesn't. If a warning label causes you this much consternation, I don't know how you make it through the day. Estwing is simply covering their @ss in a world of litigious people. Every company in the world does it. Good luck finding a product that does not come with a warning label. If such a label is the most bothersome thing that you encounter today, I would call that a win. Enjoy your hammer & please use proper safety precautions. None of the labels you present try to stop you from using the product as it is intended to be used. I am personally gratefully for peanut allergy warnings as they could well save my life. This warning only applies to people like me and others can use the product as intended. So that example dies. A warning to idiots not to pour hot coffee in their crotch is obviously overkill, but was prompted by a very real lawsuit. This warning also only states the obvious and does not try to prevent one from using the end product as intended. So that example dies. The next three also fall into the obvious ridiculous misuse category and none of them warn against using the product for what it was meant to be used for. So those fall down too. The pants warning? Obviously not telling you not to wear them or actually use them as pants. So that one is apples to oranges like the rest were. Qtips.....Everyone knows qtips are used for almost everything but the ears. Never put anything smaller than your elbow in there. Old doctors saying.... As I have already stated, I am expressing my personal opinion. The fact that my opinion upsets you so much is rather troubling. If you must keep on pressing your point with a certainty that you will fail anyway knowing that I don't care what you think about what I think makes me wonder why you feel the need to troll so badly. I hope you can deal with the reality that I am honestly considering you a troll in my thread now. Maybe I need to issue a warning label too? The warning label on the hammer is ridiculous because they are telling you you can't use the hammer for what it was made to do. Enough said.
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Post by ziggy on Mar 12, 2017 20:51:34 GMT -5
After doing a bunch of googling various Mohs hardnesses relating to rock hammers and the stuff they can and can not break, I've come to the conclusion that hardened rock hammer steel, with a Mohs of 8, should stand up to quartz (mohs 7) agate (chalcedony) mohs 6.5 to 7, granite mohs 7, basalt mohs typically rated at 6, as well as most other typical rocks who's hardness falls below 8 which pretty much covers any other rock I am ever likely to need to use the hammer on up on the mine piles. I won't be hitting any Beryl or diamonds with it as far as I know which are basically the only things that would be harder than the hammer. Based on my exhaustive research I can officially conclude that the "only hit wooden stakes" warning label attached to this "ROCK HAMMER" is an embarrassment to have to see. The fact that this 🔨 has this label is ridiculous. I will wear my safety goggles and use the hammer as it was intended to be used, on rocks, not wooden stakes just like the professional geologists do. If a hunk of the hammer ends up in my arm I already know I can't sue so their tactic to prevent lawsuits works like they designed it to even if their hammer doesn't.
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Post by ziggy on Mar 11, 2017 23:45:37 GMT -5
ziggy The North Cady's are a mountain range in the Mojave Desert. Full of exciting agates and jaspers and more. Barstow is your Google reference a d Basin Rd is the exit from I15 Funny, I was right near there once back in the '90s.
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Post by ziggy on Mar 11, 2017 22:20:17 GMT -5
I am in Texas this week and got rained out today. My mom used to say I was like chicken s$%t...all over. Was doing fine till the little bugger got me. Hubby got stung by an especially nasty tropical black scorpion while working in a plastics factory down in southwest Miami fla. He was feeding waste plastic sheeting from some Indonesian source into a shredder and when he got to the bottom of the bin a scorpion got him on the finger. He got really sick for almost two weeks. Sweet haul you got there
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Post by ziggy on Mar 11, 2017 21:37:17 GMT -5
I thought you lived way up North. They have scorps up there??
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Post by ziggy on Mar 11, 2017 21:30:49 GMT -5
How big is it? It's beautiful by the way😉
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Post by ziggy on Mar 11, 2017 21:03:53 GMT -5
Got mine at the same place. No Estwing name on it means it's not an Estwing. Mine has the pointed rock piercing tip not a flat chisel tip. Mine only cost $11.99 and the cheapest Estwing is more than that. Real Estwing rock chisels have a blue grip with a red plastic striking end. Mine looks like it's up to the task. Well we have the same pencil point chisel. Mine was used to extract 4 big hunks of seam jasper in the North Cady's last weekend. Held up very well. As did the 3# sledge. Fwiw that was any first taste of hard rock mining. It was fun! Sweet. Glad to hear that chisel was a good choice. Pardon my ignorance but what are the north cady's? Is that short for Cascades? I'm from Michigan so mountains aren't my strong suit.
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Post by ziggy on Mar 11, 2017 20:34:42 GMT -5
I have that chisel. I thought is was estwing! Bought mine at THD. 😀 Got mine at the same place. No Estwing name on it means it's not an Estwing. Mine has the pointed rock piercing tip not a flat chisel tip. Mine only cost $11.99 and the cheapest Estwing is more than that. Real Estwing rock chisels have a blue grip with a red plastic striking end. Mine looks like it's up to the task.
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Post by ziggy on Mar 11, 2017 20:24:14 GMT -5
That stuff of about rock hammers not being up for abuse is crap. I have a BS import one i bought years ago and i abuse the hell out of it. Never once did i care if i damaged it. It was $12. I liked the estwing 22oz and abused it too. But lost in in a tragic "left the tailgate down" incident that really made a friend here very angry with me. Steel is way tougher (but softer) than agates. So the harder agates break but are not deformed by the softer steel hammer. Your hammer will last generations. Too bad Estwing won't commit to making your last statement like you can. It's good their reputation can be better appreciated than their attitude can be. I also bought one of those third world cheapo's. I'm going to test them both side by side on the mine piles in Keweenaw and relay my OPINION on them both here.
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Post by ziggy on Mar 11, 2017 19:36:36 GMT -5
So you are saying the Estwing company has no balls (twice) because they are just covering their @$$ against stupid lawsuits? It's a high quality rock hammer, use it with the understanding that sh*t happens. I have 5 gallon buckets with warning labels that one can drown in it if filled with water. But... I STILL fill them with water. So far, so good. Morons and scammers in our litigious society lead to overly cautious warning labels. I kinda figure that the herd needs culling anyway. Warning labels are not an indication of "no balls", but a deterrent against no brains and folks that want to sue at the drop of a hat. I completely agree with you on everything you say. Especially when it comes to lawsuit scammers. However, the chisel that I bought (not made by Estwing) is also made to be used on rock and carries no lame ass warning pretending that the chisel wasn't made for anything other than a wood stake. That's what I mean by no balls. Why dont they just say our rock hammers should never be uses on rocks because we might get sued? At least that way I could give them brownie points for honesty. It's the same way I would feel about let's say, an ATV with the warning not to be driven off road, or the a food that shouldn't be eaten. I can't help you don't agree, but then, I don't really care either. It's just my personal opinion so shouting it down won't change it.
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