JR8675309
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Post by JR8675309 on Sept 17, 2022 19:08:44 GMT -5
Does anyone have ideas where to get a new belt for a no name cabber? Apparently they can be spliced but I see there are 3 bad spots (or more) on it. It's about 0.14" wide on the flat side of the v belt. It's 7" in diameter. I am guessing I could switch out the hardware to accommodate a different belt... anyone want have a belt source? Thanks!
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 17, 2022 20:17:46 GMT -5
Does anyone have ideas where to get a new belt for a no name cabber? Apparently they can be spliced but I see there are 3 bad spots (or more) on it. It's about 0.14" wide on the flat side of the v belt. It's 7" in diameter. I am guessing I could switch out the hardware to accommodate a different belt... anyone want have a belt source? Thanks! A lot of auto parts store will have a belt measuring device (think of the foot measurer thingy they use when you go out to buy shoes). They can get an accurate measurement of length and width of belt, angle, etc. Just because, it might be wise to stick with the size and shape of what you've got. Why? Oh, I don't know, lol.
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Post by Son Of Beach on Sept 17, 2022 20:35:36 GMT -5
Does anyone have ideas where to get a new belt for a no name cabber? Apparently they can be spliced but I see there are 3 bad spots (or more) on it. It's about 0.14" wide on the flat side of the v belt. It's 7" in diameter. I am guessing I could switch out the hardware to accommodate a different belt... anyone want have a belt source? Thanks! If it's a true belt, I don't know if they go smaller than a 1/4 as a standard. It's it just a regular pulley, not a timing with gaps?
But like Jean said, might be best to find a local outfitter than can do some digging. Some of the old guys have resources you can't find online.
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Post by JR8675309 on Sept 17, 2022 21:15:58 GMT -5
I'm prob going to venture to an auto parts store. I have an email in w the local lapidary shop. Obtained the measurements w the caliper, looks like a legit belt to answer your question. I got it running with paracord and of course I could do leather, but a direct replacement would be nice...
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Post by quartz on Sept 17, 2022 21:25:08 GMT -5
Try a vacuum cleaner shop that has a good repair side. I've sourced some small belts of different sizes from ours here. Be sure to take your old one along. Amended to say vac. and sewing machine shop
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Post by JR8675309 on Sept 17, 2022 21:36:02 GMT -5
Since this isn't severed, wondering if I could used a compound to rejoin it... I know it's possible to splice but this thing is tiny...
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Post by quartz on Sept 18, 2022 0:48:01 GMT -5
My luck with splicing something like your belt has typically proven very short lived, then too I've drawn more short straws in my life than most people. Really, best bet for longevity is replacement. Then too, another option, this on a 30" rotary lap we bought. Nine bandaids.
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Post by JR8675309 on Sept 18, 2022 7:25:31 GMT -5
My luck with splicing something like your belt has typically proven very short lived, then too I've drawn more short straws in my life than most people. Really, best bet for longevity is replacement. Then too, another option, this on a 30" rotary lap we bought. Nine bandaids. Good morning out there in rock land. Well I've determined what we have here is a polyurethane v bell that can potentially be thermowelded at a temp of 590 F, so I'll be trying that next. CURRENTLY I have the machine running on paracord I spliced with baling wire. Creativity and ingenuity are two of the things I like about lapidary arts and machinery in general.
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Post by Son Of Beach on Sept 18, 2022 7:27:25 GMT -5
I used to work at this little industrial shop and on occasion I would make replacement belts for guys that had older, weird machines like yours out of what is called round belting. It's basically a section of higher strength o-ring material that would be cut to size and made to fit the application. It's a shot in the dark to find someone who makes it though, we were the only place in town that I knew of. Maybe you can get lucky in finding someone that has the splicer and the skill to do it right
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Post by JR8675309 on Sept 18, 2022 7:39:43 GMT -5
Yessss. Son Of Beach I discovered that last night while searching (endlessly it seems like) for a 4mm top width belt. Thank you for mentioning it because I thought if nothing else, I'll try round PU next. I do not have a thermowelder (i know right?) so I'm going to try my soldering station w a flat attachment. I fully admit all of the work arounds will likely create a dubious bond, but it's all I have on a Sunday. *I've come up with alternate sources for odd belts as inspired by quartz who suggested vacuum store. I'll add: Updated 9/18/22: McMaster-Carr had the belt* Remote control (RC) cars Washing machines Fenner drives "vee" belts (geared to bulk purchase belt Providers) Will add more as I find them.
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Post by Son Of Beach on Sept 18, 2022 9:09:00 GMT -5
Awesome, I'm sure you've already run across it but I'll throw a pic your way just in case. It basically holds the two section parallel and then after both sides of melted sufficiently the will melt into one another making the complete loop. I would say maybe 1/16 - 1/8 of inch melt back on both sides should be enough gooey material to recombine them. Good luck!
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Post by mohs on Sept 18, 2022 9:31:08 GMT -5
Awesome, I'm sure you've already run across it but I'll throw a pic your way just in case. It basically holds the two section parallel and then after both sides of melted sufficiently the will melt into one another making the complete loop. I would say maybe 1/16 - 1/8 of inch melt back on both sides should be enough gooey material to recombine them. Good luck! That sound like interesting trade craft Chad that the same sort of apparatus used to weld wood cutting bandsaw blades to together welding fixture and anneal process resaw's were another beast had some success epoxy broken sanding belts together just thought i'd add a side comment good luck
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Post by Son Of Beach on Sept 18, 2022 9:37:16 GMT -5
Awesome, I'm sure you've already run across it but I'll throw a pic your way just in case. It basically holds the two section parallel and then after both sides of melted sufficiently the will melt into one another making the complete loop. I would say maybe 1/16 - 1/8 of inch melt back on both sides should be enough gooey material to recombine them. Good luck! That sound like interesting trade craft Chad that the same sort of apparatus used to weld wood cutting bandsaw blades to together welding fixture and anneal process resaw's were another beast had some success epoxy broken sanding belts together just thought i'd add a side comment good luck That makes sense Ed, the place I work for now sells different sized bansaw blades
I wondered how they worked it, probably a similar process
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Post by JR8675309 on Sept 18, 2022 9:52:17 GMT -5
That sound like interesting trade craft Chad that the same sort of apparatus used to weld wood cutting bandsaw blades to together welding fixture and anneal process resaw's were another beast had some success epoxy broken sanding belts together just thought i'd add a side comment good luck That makes sense Ed, the place I work for now sells different sized bansaw blades
I wondered how they worked it, probably a similar process
Cool, yes good add w the picture. Fail: the soldering iron goes to 490, so that didn’t work. Staples worked for a bit. Paracord started to slip. Going to DIY cave to see if they have the gear and supplies to make a belt… sigh.
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Post by JR8675309 on Sept 18, 2022 17:46:51 GMT -5
quartz and Son Of Beach good news! McMaster-Carr was suggested by my friend down the street. After measurements and chit chat he ordered one for me. He is a mechanical engineer and he knew just where to look for parts. Thanks to w wry one who took a look or contributed!
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Post by JR8675309 on Sept 23, 2022 7:45:06 GMT -5
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Post by vegasjames on Sept 23, 2022 16:47:00 GMT -5
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Post by broseph82 on Sept 23, 2022 18:33:06 GMT -5
Does anyone have ideas where to get a new belt for a no name cabber? Apparently they can be spliced but I see there are 3 bad spots (or more) on it. It's about 0.14" wide on the flat side of the v belt. It's 7" in diameter. I am guessing I could switch out the hardware to accommodate a different belt... anyone want have a belt source? Thanks! Tractor supply is better that auto parts store. They're basically lawn mower belts and will have a much better selection.
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Post by quartz on Sept 23, 2022 23:01:50 GMT -5
Pretty nifty fix there, thanks for the photo rundown too.
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Post by Son Of Beach on Sept 24, 2022 11:11:33 GMT -5
Looks good, glad you came up with an easy fix
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