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Post by mohs on Dec 30, 2022 19:37:47 GMT -5
As I venture deeper into the cut
a mohs brilliant idea...mostly
wonder if anyone as ever tried pumped flood coolant idea?
With a removable container that holds the coolant?
know it would be tricky
compared to the saw blade
always bathed in oil
Yet a flood coolants system
would greatly reduce the clean up mess
and other benefits
the vid towards the end show the Vollmer flood coolant system
as anyone tried this idea ?
or
are some machines already manufactured that way?
Would it be too expensive?
Is it an impossible idea?
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Post by brybry on Dec 30, 2022 23:59:45 GMT -5
Without watching the video, I know of 2 systems that pump oil into the saw and both are pump only or an upgrade to pump and filter system.
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Post by vance71975 on Dec 31, 2022 7:03:54 GMT -5
I mean it could work in a closed system and would likely keep the blade even cooler, but not sure if it would be worth it if the current saw system is actually working.
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Post by liveoak on Dec 31, 2022 7:48:59 GMT -5
mohs , my 10" Rock saw does that. I have a bucket with a pump in it & the machine is set up to spray coolant on both sides of the blade. I have it rigged with a plastic tray under the saw (not shown in photo) that drains into the 5 gallon bucket of water mixture (soluble coolant) - (also not shown in photo)
So when you shut off the saw the pump is also shut off & the saw sits dry.
It's a LOT easier to clean than one that is sitting in an oil bath.
This picture is right after Tom re-built it.
It's not so clean looking now  Patty
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Post by rockbrain on Dec 31, 2022 10:53:54 GMT -5
I've wondered about doing this to be able to put a smaller blade, like a 14 or 16 in my 24" saw to cut smaller more valuable rough.
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Post by Rockoonz on Dec 31, 2022 11:08:42 GMT -5
The SLIK saw uses a pump, necessary when the blade is above the work instead of stationary.  A saw in the club shop had a dry sump with a baffle tank below to catch the sludge, we elected not to use it due to multiple operators and a risk of catastrophic blade failure if the pump failed during a cut, a pressure switch on the coolant supply to shut it down in the event of a pump failure would remedy it. For a setup like that the wiring would be a little more complex, but not super difficult. When I get onto that project perhaps I will do a thread including how I deal with the coolant. I think that if you choose to use water or a water based coolant on a larger blade something that flushes the cut is definitely better, the oil will stay on a blade good enough, not so much with water. |
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Post by Rockoonz on Dec 31, 2022 11:17:13 GMT -5
To elaborate on pump failure, in an already loud shop or if you skip out for a minute, by the time you notice it's too late and a blade is toast. 0.5 bar (?) pressure switch will fix it, but you will also need relays and either delay timers or a separate pump starter to establish pressure before starting the motor. I am sure that the wiring diagram and parts sources would be in the jamesp noggin before he could finish my run on sentence, but it takes me just a bit longer. |
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Post by liveoak on Dec 31, 2022 12:09:17 GMT -5
My saw was actually sold with a extra outlet at the end of the motor to plug in a pump. So it was easy. They(motor & pump) turn on/off together. That is once Tom cleaned & fixed the coolant channels.
Patty
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Post by mohs on Dec 31, 2022 16:19:19 GMT -5
interesting guys!
suppose catastrophic pump failure would be the most major concern
one hard to ignore
an expensive blade bathed in oil is a fail safe
that SLIK is
Saw lubed intravenously kerfEd >
doesn't work
grammatically
butte hey!
were
rock grinders
mo
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Post by Rockoonz on Dec 31, 2022 18:30:27 GMT -5
My saw was actually sold with a extra outlet at the end of the motor to plug in a pump. So it was easy. They(motor & pump) turn on/off together. That is once Tom cleaned & fixed the coolant channels. Patty
That's plenty with a saw that you stay with when it's running and can see what it's doing. Problem with the enclosed slab saws is it's not obvious what's going on inside, and they are automatic so I can be running all 3, soon to be 5, and changes in their operation are not something I would hear in the overall din with earplugs in. |
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Post by Rockoonz on Dec 31, 2022 18:34:47 GMT -5
mohs I wonder if it was some kind of acronym, maybe related to the people who started the company. Something Lapidary Incorporated Kiddo???
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