J Diamond
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Post by J Diamond on Feb 25, 2023 10:18:55 GMT -5
I’m posting this for 2 reasons: first, hopefully I can help someone else from making the mistake I nearly made, and secondly to pass on a good word about Rick Scott at Scott Enterprises.
I have an L-10S that I bought a few years ago along with some other equipment from the estate of an old engineer who liked to tinker. Everything was in great running shape and just needed a little cleaning and new blades, laps, etc. My L-10S came with the vise, but no auto feed system or hood at all. I assumed that the auto feed was an option and mine just didn’t have it. The prior owner had a 6” blade in it and just used it as a trim saw. I originally did the same. Recently I bought a 10” blade for it to cut medium sized agate nodules (2-3”) by hand. I switched from water to oil with the larger blade. There’s a bit of mist, but it’s not as bad as I thought it would be, but I knew there was a hood available for it, but hadn’t ever seen it. I mistakenly thought it was like one I had seen several times that has arm holes in the sides for you to use to feed your rock. Apparently, that is a Lortone thing.
I got the phone number for Rick Scott from another thread on here (800-303-2466 or 303-887-6942) because he still makes a hood for these saws. After a brief conversation, I placed an order for one at $125. About 2 hours later, I came across a picture of the original L-10s hood and was a solid hood, with no arm holes. I called him back and asked him about it, and he informed me the Raytech hoods were solid. I also discovered that ALL of the L-10S saws came with auto feed, and the engineer apparently removed the feed from my saw. Either it didn’t work or he just wanted to use it as a trim saw. Rick graciously cancelled my order with no problems.
So now I’m a little bit wiser about the L-10S but still get my safety glasses covered in a fine mist of oil or water 😂. I still think it’s a great saw and really like the removable plastic tub that holds the coolant.
Happy cutting, y’all!
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Post by jasoninsd on Feb 25, 2023 10:29:30 GMT -5
Very seriously, thank you for taking the time to give a good review! Too often we vent about things that go wrong with vendors/suppliers, and we don't take the time to tell the good stuff! Thank you for letting us know about the experience!!  |
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Post by Rockoonz on Feb 25, 2023 13:50:53 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I may contact Rick about the Raytech/Shaw facetor I just got, see what is available for it and pricing. I have had several of their saws pass through my hands over the years, one of the best out there IMO for the person who cleans and dries the saw out every time they are done.
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QuailRiver
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Post by QuailRiver on Feb 25, 2023 15:02:08 GMT -5
Yes I agree, in my experiences dealing with Rick Scott he has always been a great person to deal with. But while Rick may only offer the Raytech 10" saw with an automatic power feed, Raytech Industries did used to offer their 10" trim/slab saw with or without a power feed system or hood. And for a while they offered an even more basic model which came without power feed, hood, motor, motor base, pulley guard or blade as can be seen in the 1990s cropped catalogue page below.  |
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Post by Rockoonz on Feb 25, 2023 15:09:30 GMT -5
And QuailRiver I had a 6" one with autofeed once, think it went to someone here. |
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Post by QuailRiver on Feb 25, 2023 15:23:34 GMT -5
...So now I’m a little bit wiser about the L-10S but still get my safety glasses covered in a fine mist of oil or water 😂. I still think it’s a great saw and really like the removable plastic tub that holds the coolant. Happy cutting, y’all! Did your saw come with the removable splash guard that mounts on the front edge of the saw's table rim? This helps a lot with containing spray, so if you don't have it you may want to consider ordering one from Rick if they are still available.  |
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Post by QuailRiver on Feb 25, 2023 15:32:01 GMT -5
And QuailRiver I had a 6" one with autofeed once, think it went to someone here. Yes I have had a couple of those too. Made just like the 10" models complete with power feed and plexiglass hood. They were great little saws. I found that 6" model especially useful for cutting boules of synthetic corundum and Y.A.G.. The slow feed rate of the power feed helped extend blade life when sawing those really hard boules of synthetic materials and kept those thinner faceter's blades from wanting to flex and veer off course.  |
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J Diamond
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Post by J Diamond on Feb 25, 2023 16:24:42 GMT -5
Yes I agree, in my experiences dealing with Rick Scott he has always been a great person to deal with. But while Rick may only offer the Raytech 10" saw with an automatic power feed, Raytech Industries did used to offer their 10" trim/slab saw with or without a power feed system or hood. And for a while they offered an even more basic model which came without power feed, hood, motor, motor base, pulley guard or blade as can be seen in the 1990s cropped catalogue page below. AHA! So they did offer it that way. Mine is exactly like the top one in your picture. Thanks for the heads up! |
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Post by J Diamond on Feb 25, 2023 16:27:53 GMT -5
...So now I’m a little bit wiser about the L-10S but still get my safety glasses covered in a fine mist of oil or water 😂. I still think it’s a great saw and really like the removable plastic tub that holds the coolant. Happy cutting, y’all! Did your saw come with the removable splash guard that mounts on the front edge of the saw's table rim? This helps a lot with containing spray, so if you don't have it you may want to consider ordering one from Rick if they are still available. I do indeed have that. Between it and the guard that goes over the blade, it stops pretty much all the direct spray, but a bit of mist inevitably floats around and settles on me. Not a big deal. I wear gloves and a set of coveralls while cutting and take a quick shower when I’m done. |
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Post by chris1956 on Feb 25, 2023 19:07:15 GMT -5
It sounds like you are looking for a solid hood rather than one with the arm holes in the sides? I bought a Covington 10" saw. They offer a hood with the arm holes in the sides. This would probably work for trimming if you were using water. But with oil, I found that it quickly gets so dirty that you can't see through the hood. Consequently, when I trim slabs, I always remove the hood and deal with the oil mist like you do. I also use this saw for slabbing small rocks and when I started doing that, there was a lot of oil mist that would come out the arm holes. I bought a couple small clear Lexan sheets at the hardware store to cover the holes. I attached mine to the original cover with cabinet magnets encase I ever wanted to remove them, but you could attach them permanently to block the holes. Because of the design of the saw, I can't block the holes entirely, but it really cuts down on the misting oil. So that might be a solution if you still want a "solid hood".
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J Diamond
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Post by J Diamond on Feb 25, 2023 22:36:31 GMT -5
It sounds like you are looking for a solid hood rather than one with the arm holes in the sides? I bought a Covington 10" saw. They offer a hood with the arm holes in the sides. This would probably work for trimming if you were using water. But with oil, I found that it quickly gets so dirty that you can't see through the hood. Consequently, when I trim slabs, I always remove the hood and deal with the oil mist like you do. I also use this saw for slabbing small rocks and when I started doing that, there was a lot of oil mist that would come out the arm holes. I bought a couple small clear Lexan sheets at the hardware store to cover the holes. I attached mine to the original cover with cabinet magnets encase I ever wanted to remove them, but you could attach them permanently to block the holes. Because of the design of the saw, I can't block the holes entirely, but it really cuts down on the misting oil. So that might be a solution if you still want a "solid hood". It’s the other way around actually. The Raytech hood that Rick makes, and the original as far as that goes, are solid. As I don’t have auto feed, and often don’t use the vice anyways, I was looking for a hood that had arm slots on the sides. That is the only way I’d be able to feed the rough into the saw. The blade guard and the little metal piece Quailriver posted earlier, do a pretty good job of stopping most of the oil. I was just trying to stop the bit of mist that works it’s way up to coat my glasses, and obviously my face by extension. It’s probably just as well it didn’t work out, as it would probably just get covered in too much oil as you suggest and I wouldn’t be able to see. At least I can removed my gloves and goggles and clean them off periodically without too much hassle. |
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Post by Rockoonz on Feb 26, 2023 0:25:31 GMT -5
The hoods aren't all that difficult to make, acrylic will cut good on a table saw with a relatively fine tooth blade, and the solvent cement is not difficult to work with. The Uber budget version is a clear storage tub if you can match the dimensions you need.
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Post by Peruano on Feb 26, 2023 9:29:15 GMT -5
and a heat gun allows careful bends in critical areas.
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