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Post by parfive on Jun 27, 2023 17:09:34 GMT -5
jamesp Average global ocean temperatures hit a record high in May, a second consecutive month of unprecedented ocean warmth, according to data NOAA released Wednesday.
In the Pacific Ocean, warming temperatures are to be expected during El Niño — its impacts on weather around the world stem from warmer-than-normal surface waters along the equatorial Pacific. But the extreme warmth extends beyond the Pacific. Record warmth is also occurring in the equatorial and northern Atlantic — and in the tropics, where hurricanes form.
“This is totally bonkers and people who look at this stuff routinely can’t believe their eyes,” Brian McNoldy, a hurricane researcher at the University of Miami, wrote on Twitter. “Something very weird is happening.”
www.noaa.gov/news/earth-saw-its-3rd-warmest-may-in-174-years
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jun 27, 2023 18:19:33 GMT -5
It's pretty easy. Things I learned from Vince: Say y'all or all y'all (plural) a lot. If someone asks you about a location, say yonder. When talking to or about someone who says something stupid, exclaim "Bless your heart" or "Bless his/her heart". All with a little bit of whatever you consider a drawl. Every state's drawl is a little different. jasoninsd , Greece is in southern Europe...y'all must be a colloquial expression there too. Why not South Dakota. "As this Southern boy tells his Greek students, “συ [su] means you and ὑμεις [hymeis] means y’all.”" "You's guys" or "youz guys" is typical north of the Mason-Dixon. Apparently it is an expression that is just as slang as "y'all". This is true. We said youz guys all time when I was a kid.
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Post by Son Of Beach on Jun 27, 2023 20:36:27 GMT -5
jamesp Good to hear from you James, figured your area got smacked around at some point.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2023 11:53:30 GMT -5
jamesp Average global ocean temperatures hit a record high in May, a second consecutive month of unprecedented ocean warmth, according to data NOAA released Wednesday.
In the Pacific Ocean, warming temperatures are to be expected during El Niño — its impacts on weather around the world stem from warmer-than-normal surface waters along the equatorial Pacific. But the extreme warmth extends beyond the Pacific. Record warmth is also occurring in the equatorial and northern Atlantic — and in the tropics, where hurricanes form.
“This is totally bonkers and people who look at this stuff routinely can’t believe their eyes,” Brian McNoldy, a hurricane researcher at the University of Miami, wrote on Twitter. “Something very weird is happening.”
www.noaa.gov/news/earth-saw-its-3rd-warmest-may-in-174-years An El Nino may flip the strong warming trends in the Gulf of Mexico of the past 4 La Nina's this year Rich. Last year Gulf water hit a record. Hard to say just yet looking at El/La Nin formation. The Gulf is an easy and stable platform to analyze these warming water trends, either the water gets hotter or it doesn't. It's a large bathtub. Come August/September is the time to watch. If you see the Gulf up to 90F storms should be frightening. The increased mass of rotating suspended moisture in those large storms recently has a lot more momentum to reach deeper inland. Ivan back in mid 2000 covered the entire Gulf. It had offshore waves exceeding 100 feet before the sensors were destroyed. Ivan settled before hitting shore as it timed out so to speak. Big streak of luck. 2018 Michael did things at/inshore at Mexico Beach never experienced in history. 2022 Ian was similar at Fort Myers spinning at 120 mph well inland. Thankfully it went into heavily wooded S. central Florida. Miami has dodged 2 terrible storms in the past 3 years, but they did do Puerto Rico.
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Post by parfive on Jun 28, 2023 16:10:11 GMT -5
The increased mass of rotating suspended moisture in those large storms recently has a lot more momentum to reach deeper inland. Deeper inland? How about all the way through and out the other side. Some of these Gulf storms are still kickin’ ass in New England and Atlantic Canada as far as Labrador. I don’t think any have hit Greenland . . . yet. : )
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Post by jamesp on Jun 29, 2023 7:28:25 GMT -5
The increased mass of rotating suspended moisture in those large storms recently has a lot more momentum to reach deeper inland. Deeper inland? How about all the way through and out the other side. Some of these Gulf storms are still kickin’ ass in New England and Atlantic Canada as far as Labrador. I don’t think any have hit Greenland . . . yet. : ) Noticed that. It is as if they are a perpetual rainmakers south to north until they move out to sea off the NE coast and threaten the shipping industry with heavy winds. Heat warnings already in June here in Atlanta. High humidity. Not a good sign. Local storms have been violent. It all depends on the water temp of that Gulf of Mexico. Less salt in the water adds to it's ability to evaporate efficiently. Ice age effects or emissions, one or both, that ocean is getting hotter either way. When westerly tropical depressions thread the gap between Miami/Cuba or Yucatan/Cuba and enter the center of the Gulf it is time to worry. It's like planting a seed. Ivan threads the gap 2004. Note massive eye dies just before landfall.
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Post by Son Of Beach on Jun 30, 2023 8:03:15 GMT -5
3:30 if you're curious
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Post by RickB on Jun 30, 2023 8:14:16 GMT -5
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Post by jasoninsd on Jun 30, 2023 22:09:29 GMT -5
It's pretty easy. Things I learned from Vince: Say y'all or all y'all (plural) a lot. If someone asks you about a location, say yonder. When talking to or about someone who says something stupid, exclaim "Bless your heart" or "Bless his/her heart". All with a little bit of whatever you consider a drawl. Every state's drawl is a little different. jasoninsd , Greece is in southern Europe...y'all must be a colloquial expression there too. Why not South Dakota. "As this Southern boy tells his Greek students, “συ [su] means you and ὑμεις [hymeis] means y’all.”" "You's guys" or "youz guys" is typical north of the Mason-Dixon. Apparently it is an expression that is just as slang as "y'all". Sorry for the slow response James... The "weirdest" (to me!) that I've heard is "yins" from around the PA area. I believe it's a shortened version "you-ones" or "you-uns"
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Post by jamesp on Jul 1, 2023 7:29:34 GMT -5
jasoninsd , Greece is in southern Europe...y'all must be a colloquial expression there too. Why not South Dakota. "As this Southern boy tells his Greek students, “συ [su] means you and ὑμεις [hymeis] means y’all.”" "You's guys" or "youz guys" is typical north of the Mason-Dixon. Apparently it is an expression that is just as slang as "y'all". Sorry for the slow response James... The "weirdest" (to me!) that I've heard is "yins" from around the PA area. I believe it's a shortened version "you-ones" or "you-uns" That's a new one Jason. Your military travels probably exposed you to the whole gamut of colloquial expressions. The apostle Paul from the tribe of Benjamin in southern Israel used the term 'you all' regularly. Southern Germans are known to be warm and friendly as opposed to their northern counterparts. South Georgian's speak with warm deep drawn accents and the mountain folks a more harsh guttural accent. Slow is also southern. No need to ever get in a hurry.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 1, 2023 7:39:13 GMT -5
Sorry for the slow response James... The "weirdest" (to me!) that I've heard is "yins" from around the PA area. I believe it's a shortened version "you-ones" or "you-uns" That's a new one Jason. Your military travels probably exposed you to the whole gamut of colloquial expressions. The apostle Paul from the tribe of Benjamin in southern Israel used the term 'you all' regularly. Southern Germans are known to be warm and friendly as opposed to their northern counterparts. South Georgian's speak with warm deep drawn accents and the mountain folks a more harsh guttural accent. Slow is also southern. No need to ever get in a hurry. Funny you say that about the "speed". I lived in upstate NY for a bit...which I don't recommend to anyone! Things and people operated and spoke at a much higher rate than I prefer. In the Midwest, we're a lot more slowed down...but not as slowed down as y'all down South. I spent time in GA and NC...and the locals operated and spoke at a rate even slower than we do out here. That's not a derogatory statement...I prefer slower. It makes it more possible to "live in the moment"...rather than speeding onto the next one!
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Post by jamesp on Jul 1, 2023 8:22:47 GMT -5
Those F5 tornadoes inbred with lightning are best kept in the corn fields Son Of Beach RickB. Record breaking sized hail is another recent phenomena related to warming across the world. Start getting 5+ inch hail bombs and severe damage occurs to man beast and buildings. More heat = more moisture = higher storm heads aloft = breeding ground for massive hail. Dark colored ash from the record Canadian wildfires settling on the the arctic is an ice melt concern. When does this circle stop. Looks like Trudeau has an elevated dose of smoked human rights awareness. Smoke from Georgia to Spain.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 1, 2023 8:40:44 GMT -5
That's a new one Jason. Your military travels probably exposed you to the whole gamut of colloquial expressions. The apostle Paul from the tribe of Benjamin in southern Israel used the term 'you all' regularly. Southern Germans are known to be warm and friendly as opposed to their northern counterparts. South Georgian's speak with warm deep drawn accents and the mountain folks a more harsh guttural accent. Slow is also southern. No need to ever get in a hurry. Funny you say that about the "speed". I lived in upstate NY for a bit...which I don't recommend to anyone! Things and people operated and spoke at a much higher rate than I prefer. In the Midwest, we're a lot more slowed down...but not as slowed down as y'all down South. I spent time in GA and NC...and the locals operated and spoke at a rate even slower than we do out here. That's not a derogatory statement...I prefer slower. It makes it more possible to "live in the moment"...rather than speeding onto the next one! Canada might have the english speed breaking record Jason. Them folks live too fast. Yes 'life in the moment' has benefits. The land of enchanted high humidity will slow anything down. Central Florida as hot and humid as it gets and colleges in Florida crank out high percentages of great football players. Something about that heat/humidity combo. What is odd is that Atlanta is said to have one of the fastest talking populations in the country. Must be the imports... Average speeds on the perimeter interstate I-285 around Atlanta is 85+ mph with heavy volumes, also flirting with a national record. Half the vehicles are notoriously powerful Dodge Chargers moving and weaving at break neck speeds. Dodge must be getting rich. Germany has it's Autobahn and we have our perimeter.
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Post by parfive on Jul 1, 2023 11:55:05 GMT -5
Ah, yes . . . the rise of the billion-dollar hail storm.
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Post by parfive on Jul 11, 2023 2:25:51 GMT -5
An El Nino may flip the strong warming trends in the Gulf of Mexico of the past 4 La Nina's this year Rich. Last year Gulf water hit a record. Hard to say just yet looking at El/La Nin formation. The Gulf is an easy and stable platform to analyze these warming water trends, either the water gets hotter or it doesn't. It's a large bathtub. Come August/September is the time to watch. If you see the Gulf up to 90F storms should be frightening.
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Post by parfive on Jul 25, 2023 19:08:02 GMT -5
The latest from Bathtub Key, jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Aug 10, 2023 10:55:27 GMT -5
The latest from Bathtub Key, jamesp With calm weather as experienced around the Keys this year the water fails to cool by mixing and slow wind driven currents. I wouldn't judge the overall Gulf temps by those measurements. But it is an added heat input and telling. Regardless the entire gulf is warm this year and the weather techs are concerned about hurricane strength starting in late August/Sept/Oct and even into November. Another hot spot is Greenland. Jason Box on Youtube is a Greenland onsite guy. He is freaked out by the wet snow/rain/melt rate at 7000 to 9000 ft. el at Greenland. Dry snow has been the norm for decades, not this year. Wet snow absorbs more solar energy. Also El Nino is sweeping Canadian hot air(and dirty air at that) over Greenland aggravating the situation. Early yet but hotter August/Sept may reveal melting rates we don't want to see. Yes Jason is all about CO but he has 4 other contributors to why we are warming recently. One reason is sun anomalies related to sunspots and solar flares affecting transmitted radiation. The Beijing storm seems to be for real. Europe is/has been hot suffering unique hail. Other continents too. Lake Shasta is a freak. It doesn't seem that the media has the warming issue twisted. Time will tell...
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Post by parfive on Aug 10, 2023 13:45:46 GMT -5
That dirty air you mentioned, jamesp . . . In Quebec, more land was torched in June than in the previous 20 years combined . . . Across Canada, the total was more than 25 million acres, or about two and a half times as much land as burned in any of the worst American seasons of the past 50 years, with most of Canada’s fire season still ahead . . .
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Post by jamesp on Aug 19, 2023 10:16:33 GMT -5
That dirty air you mentioned, jamesp . . . In Quebec, more land was torched in June than in the previous 20 years combined . . . Across Canada, the total was more than 25 million acres, or about two and a half times as much land as burned in any of the worst American seasons of the past 50 years, with most of Canada’s fire season still ahead . . .
Look out for Hilary's Mon-Tues-Wed-Thurs flooding. A weather freak. Abnormally El Nino warm ocean waters is the the culprit. It is trekking worst possible case scenario along the coast of Baja where the warmest water is. Lots of unknowns. www.wjcl.com/article/hurricane-hilary-catastrophic-flooding-mexico-california/44856892#
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Post by jamesp on Sept 8, 2023 18:19:11 GMT -5
parfive - hurricane Lee a beast. Breaking some Atlantic records. Fortunately hopefully to stay out to sea. 7pm/Sept.8/2023
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