ashley
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Post by ashley on Aug 22, 2023 7:54:01 GMT -5
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Post by chris1956 on Aug 22, 2023 10:59:32 GMT -5
Looks great! Do you have a before photo? And, if you are going to polish, an after photo? I haven't tried this before.
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ashley
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Post by ashley on Aug 22, 2023 14:18:16 GMT -5
Looks great! Do you have a before photo?  And, if you are going to polish, an after photo? I haven't tried this before.  sorry I don’t. It is at work, not sure what she wants done to it yet.
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realrockhound
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Post by realrockhound on Aug 22, 2023 14:31:33 GMT -5
Now add baking soda to it
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Post by ashley on Aug 22, 2023 15:38:41 GMT -5
Now add baking soda to it with the vinegar?!
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Post by realrockhound on Aug 22, 2023 16:45:08 GMT -5
Now add baking soda to it with the vinegar?! Yeah. That’s how you get obsidian. Lava
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Post by chris1956 on Aug 22, 2023 17:00:39 GMT -5
Now add baking soda to it Trouble maker.
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Post by skmcconnell361 on Aug 22, 2023 17:03:35 GMT -5
I am guessing that soaking in vinegar had some sort of preliminary cleaning purpose?
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Post by ashley on Aug 22, 2023 18:06:59 GMT -5
Yeah. That’s how you get obsidian. Lava lol, yes and a mess that I have to clean up! 😂
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Post by ashley on Aug 22, 2023 18:10:00 GMT -5
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Post by jasoninsd on Aug 22, 2023 20:31:11 GMT -5
I saw this this morning! That looks great!! How long did it soak in the vinegar?
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Post by ashley on Aug 22, 2023 21:25:04 GMT -5
I saw this this morning! That looks great!! How long did it soak in the vinegar? thanks Jason! Around 24 hours.
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Post by jasoninsd on Aug 22, 2023 21:28:42 GMT -5
I saw this this morning! That looks great!! How long did it soak in the vinegar? thanks Jason! Around 24 hours. I forgot to ask, white vinegar or apple cider vinegar...I'm assuming not Balsamic! I'm guessing white...but thought I better ask. I have white vinegar...but would have to steal my wife's apple cider from the pantry if that's what's needed! LOL
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Post by ashley on Aug 22, 2023 21:32:39 GMT -5
jasoninsdWhite vinegar. Don’t steal her stuff! It cost more money!
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Post by chris1956 on Aug 22, 2023 21:35:03 GMT -5
When I read this earlier, I was wondering if I used wine vinegar, if it would dye the rock. lol
After all this discussion, I am going to have to take a couple Petoskey stones and soak half of each in the vinegar and then polish them and see if it makes any difference in the final polish.
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 22, 2023 21:55:51 GMT -5
I do this with diluted hydrochloric acid (muriatic acid, "pool acid") to ether release fossils from the limestone or to put the fossils in more relief.
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Post by jasoninsd on Aug 22, 2023 21:58:45 GMT -5
I do this with diluted hydrochloric acid (muriatic acid, "pool acid") to ether release fossils from the limestone or to put the fossils in more relief. James, when you dilute your muriatic, do you have a specific ratio, or do you just wing it?
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Post by ashley on Aug 22, 2023 22:01:38 GMT -5
I do this with diluted hydrochloric acid (muriatic acid, "pool acid") to ether release fossils from the limestone or to put the fossils in more relief. what does ether release and more relief mean?
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 22, 2023 22:16:18 GMT -5
I just wing it. The reason I dilute it is to control the reaction. If I put the acid on straight it creates a very strong reaction that only last a few seconds before the acid is used up. By diluting the acid, which you do not need much, the reaction is more controlled and I can check my fossils or rocks I clean this way until I get the result I am after. Then I just rinse them off. One thing I found is that the reaction goes on the acid water and the formed calcium chloride solution having different densities do separate. And so, the reaction will stop on the rocks that are out of the acid solution, but the acid is still there. To solve the problem, I stir the solution frequently so that the acid solution is maintained evenly throughout the solution. To test is acid is left or if more needs to be added, I dip a piece of limestone o caliche in the solution to see if it fizzes. I tend to use the same solution for a while and just keep adding acid since tap water has a lot of minerals that will use up some of the acid. By using the same solution and adding more acid, the minerals that were preset in the tap water have already reacted with the acid and therefore does not affect the new acid.
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 23, 2023 8:37:55 GMT -5
I do this with diluted hydrochloric acid (muriatic acid, "pool acid") to ether release fossils from the limestone or to put the fossils in more relief. what does ether release and more relief mean? Releasing the fossil means separating it completely from the matrix. An example is the one sponge I posted. Relief is where you remove some of the matrix so the fossils stick out more. I generally do with fossil clusters such as crinoid clusters so that more of the fossils are showing, but still part of the cluster.
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