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Post by dshanpnw on Oct 29, 2023 12:49:41 GMT -5
This is a very interesting article from Lapidary Journal dated December 1967.
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Post by adam5 on Oct 29, 2023 14:09:38 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this!
This shows that slurry viscosity and grit surface area have a definite effect on grinding efficiency.
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Post by dillonf on Oct 29, 2023 15:05:03 GMT -5
It was fascinating to read the advertisements!
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Post by dillonf on Oct 29, 2023 15:06:15 GMT -5
I like this one best!
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Post by chris1956 on Oct 29, 2023 17:25:57 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this.
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Post by liveoak on Oct 30, 2023 6:28:16 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this- I printed it to read at the kitchen table
Patty
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Post by wyorock on Oct 30, 2023 8:03:05 GMT -5
Very informative and interesting. However there seems to be a disconnect between the 2nd to last page and the last page where we went from abrasive discussion to new mineral and hematite.
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Post by liveoak on Oct 30, 2023 20:13:07 GMT -5
Interesting article and it confirms what I've read with not using coarser than 80 in a 3 lb barrel. I just wonder if anyone has done a similar test with a 12 lb barrel ? Guess I have to search the archives.
Thanks for posting the article. Patty
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Post by velodromed on Oct 31, 2023 14:12:21 GMT -5
Thanks for posting! I love old articles like this.
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Post by dshanpnw on Nov 1, 2023 7:26:27 GMT -5
Very informative and interesting. However there seems to be a disconnect between the 2nd to last page and the last page where we went from abrasive discussion to new mineral and hematite. Yes there was, sorry for carelessly posting pages. It has been fixed. Thank you so much. You're awesome.
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Post by dshanpnw on Nov 1, 2023 7:27:12 GMT -5
Thanks for posting! I love old articles like this. I replaced the mixed up page, thanks
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Post by dshanpnw on Nov 1, 2023 7:28:08 GMT -5
Interesting article and it confirms what I've read with not using coarser than 80 in a 3 lb barrel. I just wonder if anyone has done a similar test with a 12 lb barrel ? Guess I have to search the archives. Thanks for posting the article. Patty I put the proper last page where it belongs
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Post by dshanpnw on Nov 1, 2023 7:29:55 GMT -5
I fixed the error wyorock pointed out. The article should now make better sense.
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Post by wyorock on Nov 1, 2023 7:55:50 GMT -5
Thanks so much. I'm going to print this and give it thoughtful consideration.
I was wondering if sometimes slurry has too much viscosity. It seems a point of "supersaturation" (of grit and rock "mud") is reached and no additional wearing occurs.
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Post by adam5 on Dec 14, 2023 7:02:24 GMT -5
Rob (Jugglerguy here and Michigan Rocks on Youtube) recently ran a similar experiment involving varying amounts of 60/90 grit and had a similar result as was reported in the article with 80 grit. JugglerguyI have been trying to leave a link to this thread in the comments for your video, but they seem to have been removed.
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Post by HankRocks on Dec 14, 2023 10:57:05 GMT -5
Rob (Jugglerguy here and Michigan Rocks on Youtube) recently ran a similar experiment involving varying amounts of 60/90 grit and had a similar result as was reported in the article with 80 grit. Jugglerguy I have been trying to leave a link to this thread in the comments for your video, but they seem to have been removed. Rob, It occurred to me that the grit will have a tendency to collide with itself under pressure from the rocks and break itself down. The more grit the more grit particle to grit particle collisions the less opportunities for grit to rock breakdown. So the extra grit does not help as it is wasted in these grit to grit collisions. It's also why the grit seemed to be all used up in all of barrels. Also early in the run there is not as much slurry to help suspend the grit and it tends to stay "stacked" on one side and the bottom increasing the grit to grit grinding. As the slurry thickens the grit will suspend better but still be subject to grit to grit contact. Henry
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Post by Jugglerguy on Dec 14, 2023 18:51:40 GMT -5
Rob (Jugglerguy here and Michigan Rocks on Youtube) recently ran a similar experiment involving varying amounts of 60/90 grit and had a similar result as was reported in the article with 80 grit. Jugglerguy I have been trying to leave a link to this thread in the comments for your video, but they seem to have been removed. Rob, It occurred to me that the grit will have a tendency to collide with itself under pressure from the rocks and break itself down. The more grit the more grit particle to grit particle collisions the less opportunities for grit to rock breakdown. So the extra grit does not help as it is wasted in these grit to grit collisions. It's also why the grit seemed to be all used up in all of barrels. Also early in the run there is not as much slurry to help suspend the grit and it tends to stay "stacked" on one side and the bottom increasing the grit to grit grinding. As the slurry thickens the grit will suspend better but still be subject to grit to grit contact. Henry I never considered the grit on grit grinding of grit laying on the bottom of the barrel. Thanks for pointing out that possibility.
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Post by ts on Dec 27, 2023 20:36:26 GMT -5
So reading this article the author concludes that starting with 220 grit is more efficient than starting with 80 grit? Anybody tried this in the rotary? I might adjust to running rotary with 120/220 then going to vibe 500 than vibe 8000 polish.
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Post by adam5 on Dec 28, 2023 3:41:34 GMT -5
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Post by ts on Dec 28, 2023 23:53:08 GMT -5
WOW! That was a great experiment you did. I think I will revise some of my tumbles that could eliminate a step. Thank you for sharing this
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