khara
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Post by khara on Dec 24, 2023 18:50:58 GMT -5
I recently bought some stone beads and they came on a thin metal wire rather than a fishing line or string. I’d like to get some of this for a strong, non-stretchy way to play around with some dangles. I suppose non stretch bead string (like a fishing line) could work but this wire just seems better quality to me for some reason. Does anyone have experience with this stuff? I assume it is “beading wire”. When I search this, many brands and options come up. If you’ve worked with it and have a favorite, I’d love to hear. Also, I’ll be looking for tutorials on working with it, how to crimp or otherwise do various attachments, so if you have favorite tutorials, I’d also be interested in that. Thanks!
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Post by liveoak on Dec 26, 2023 7:30:57 GMT -5
Is it magnetic ? Stiff ?
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Post by susand24224 on Jan 3, 2024 23:31:25 GMT -5
It depends on what you want to. Do you want the finished product to drape well? Do you want it stiff to hold its shape? How much weight do you want it to hold? In other words, different wire for different types of projects. Good quality stringing wire is fairly expensive so it probably is not what is holding your beads. You will need crimps--2 and 3 mm work for most projects, crimping pliers which come in different sizes and probably crimp covers. I have Euro crimpers which can handle up to 3mm, as well as smaller. They have multiple ports for different sizes. Artbeads.com has good instructional videos for all of your questions.
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Post by khara on Feb 3, 2024 6:45:50 GMT -5
Don’t know how I missed this. liveoak No it’s not magnetic and it is quite stiff. I was able to bend and put the link in it and it held that. That’s not something I’d want (the kink factor).
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Post by khara on Feb 3, 2024 6:54:11 GMT -5
susand24224 Again, I don’t know how I missed this. I do want it to drape well, not be stiff. I think you’re right. They probably aren’t using high dollar wire to send out with purchased beads. Thanks for the Art Beads info. I’ll look into them. I had previously started doing some reading and of course everyone had both good and bad things to say about the various brands so it didn’t really narrow it down for me. It is spendy stuff so I just need to try to determine the best brand for me to try.
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Post by susand24224 on Feb 3, 2024 17:12:46 GMT -5
susand24224 Again, I don’t know how I missed this. I do want it to drape well, not be stiff. I think you’re right. They probably aren’t using high dollar wire to send out with purchased beads. Thanks for the Art Beads info. I’ll look into them. I had previously started doing some reading and of course everyone had both good and bad things to say about the various brands so it didn’t really narrow it down for me. It is spendy stuff so I just need to try to determine the best brand for me to try. There are multitudes of types of wire out there, as well as thread, and each has a different purpose. I'm no expert, but *somewhere* on Artbeads (it may be one of their instructional videos that link to Youtube) there is a discussion of which is best for which. It could be that people used the wrong wire for what they were doing, etc. I don't think any of it will hold up if it isn't properly cared for or it would be stiff as a board.
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Post by khara on Feb 3, 2024 18:37:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the resource susand24224 I went there last night before falling asleep. It does look like they have some extensive info so I’ll dig into that and see what I find.👍
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Post by rockjunquie on Feb 4, 2024 8:41:24 GMT -5
I always liked fireline www.firemountaingems.com/shop/fireline It was developed as a fishing line and took off with crafters. Its ridiculously strong, resists cutting, drapes well and comes in lots of variety.
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Post by susand24224 on Feb 4, 2024 17:08:16 GMT -5
I always liked fireline www.firemountaingems.com/shop/fireline It was developed as a fishing line and took off with crafters. Its ridiculously strong, resists cutting, drapes well and comes in lots of variety. I agree, although I don't buy from Fire Mountain unless I absolutely can't find it anywhere else. But--Fire Mountain's prices are much better unless you wait for a sale at Artbeads or Beadaholique. One thing I question though (don't know for sure, but question) is whether it works as well as the "wire" stuff with cheap beads. I've taken apart a few failing necklaces where it broke and found it very frayed--I think in large part because cheap gemstone and glass beads are not finished well on the inside so they cut into it. I also took apart one necklace that was on wire (couldn't identify the type) that was also frayed, I think for the same reason. Maybe fraying is not avoidable with any media when the beads are poorly made (?) (Just thinking out loud here.) But--I use Fireline for, for example, seed beads that are components in earrings and lighter-weight bracelets. I've *never* had Fireline break, but I've never used it for a moderate to heavy weight project. PS: I've never had a problem with orders from Fire Mountain, I'm just very environmentally oriented and I have a *real* problem with their excessive use of plastic in packing their stuff.
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Post by rockjunquie on Feb 5, 2024 9:01:22 GMT -5
I always liked fireline www.firemountaingems.com/shop/fireline It was developed as a fishing line and took off with crafters. Its ridiculously strong, resists cutting, drapes well and comes in lots of variety. I agree, although I don't buy from Fire Mountain unless I absolutely can't find it anywhere else. But--Fire Mountain's prices are much better unless you wait for a sale at Artbeads or Beadaholique. One thing I question though (don't know for sure, but question) is whether it works as well as the "wire" stuff with cheap beads. I've taken apart a few failing necklaces where it broke and found it very frayed--I think in large part because cheap gemstone and glass beads are not finished well on the inside so they cut into it. I also took apart one necklace that was on wire (couldn't identify the type) that was also frayed, I think for the same reason. Maybe fraying is not avoidable with any media when the beads are poorly made (?) (Just thinking out loud here.) But--I use Fireline for, for example, seed beads that are components in earrings and lighter-weight bracelets. I've *never* had Fireline break, but I've never used it for a moderate to heavy weight project. PS: I've never had a problem with orders from Fire Mountain, I'm just very environmentally oriented and I have a *real* problem with their excessive use of plastic in packing their stuff. I listed the first big site that came up. I'm not advocating for FMG. Just wanted to demonstrate the variety.
I have used heavier Fireline for quite heavy necklaces with no issues. I have also used it for seed beaded things.
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Post by susand24224 on Feb 5, 2024 17:01:45 GMT -5
I agree, although I don't buy from Fire Mountain unless I absolutely can't find it anywhere else. But--Fire Mountain's prices are much better unless you wait for a sale at Artbeads or Beadaholique. One thing I question though (don't know for sure, but question) is whether it works as well as the "wire" stuff with cheap beads. I've taken apart a few failing necklaces where it broke and found it very frayed--I think in large part because cheap gemstone and glass beads are not finished well on the inside so they cut into it. I also took apart one necklace that was on wire (couldn't identify the type) that was also frayed, I think for the same reason. Maybe fraying is not avoidable with any media when the beads are poorly made (?) (Just thinking out loud here.) But--I use Fireline for, for example, seed beads that are components in earrings and lighter-weight bracelets. I've *never* had Fireline break, but I've never used it for a moderate to heavy weight project. PS: I've never had a problem with orders from Fire Mountain, I'm just very environmentally oriented and I have a *real* problem with their excessive use of plastic in packing their stuff. I listed the first big site that came up. I'm not advocating for FMG. Just wanted to demonstrate the variety. I have used heavier Fireline for quite heavy necklaces with no issues. I have also used it for seed beaded things.
Thanks for the extra info., Tela. It is also entirely possible that the stuff I am repairing was not treated properly by its owners--perhaps they were reading the old "Hints from Heloise" that advocated using toothpaste as a cleaner. By way of explanation, lately I've gotten stuff that had fallen apart or close to falling apart to "redo" and put on the charity's website that I work with--on two occasions from the children of people who have passed. It's good to hear that you have had positive experiences with it, since it sure is easy to use. (Off to search for 14 lb test.)
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khara
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Post by khara on Feb 5, 2024 17:02:55 GMT -5
rockjunquie I hadn’t yet thought about fishing line style material even though waaaay back when, fishing line is a medium I used for cheap, find it in my own house (ie my dads tackle box)🤣, material. I just happened to see this wire and realized it’d be good for incorporating some of my design plans. So I’ll consider this Fireline too as an option. I’m really unfamiliar with what’s out there so just need to figure it out. And figuring out can get spendy so trying to narrow that starting point down a bit. Thanks!
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