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Post by pauls on Mar 26, 2024 19:40:43 GMT -5
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Post by jasoninsd on Mar 26, 2024 22:51:13 GMT -5
Paul, those links are really cool! Thanks for sharing those!!
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 27, 2024 13:36:40 GMT -5
pauls Thanks for posting this. I'd already seen and bookmarked her garnet illustration. Garnets, along with the feldspars, are two of the most complex minerals used for gems and the feldspar group illustration is a welcome addition to my collection. Garnets have been a special interest of mine for years. Differentiating garnet species in cut gems is difficult since there's so much intermixing (miscibility) between species and duplication of colors. If it's of interest to you, Dr. William A. Hanneman published a book some years back called "Naming Gem Garnets." It came with a fold-up "pyramid" called the "Rosetta Stone of Garnets" that lists garnet species by color and RI. I've found it immensely helpful. Unfortunately the book is out of print, I think, but a used bookseller may have a copy.
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Post by vegasjames on Mar 27, 2024 18:16:23 GMT -5
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Post by chris1956 on Mar 27, 2024 20:13:01 GMT -5
That blue color is spectacular!
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Post by pauls on Mar 27, 2024 23:13:57 GMT -5
pauls Thanks for posting this. I'd already seen and bookmarked her garnet illustration. Garnets, along with the feldspars, are two of the most complex minerals used for gems and the feldspar group illustration is a welcome addition to my collection. Garnets have been a special interest of mine for years. Differentiating garnet species in cut gems is difficult since there's so much intermixing (miscibility) between species and duplication of colors. If it's of interest to you, Dr. William A. Hanneman published a book some years back called "Naming Gem Garnets." It came with a fold-up "pyramid" called the "Rosetta Stone of Garnets" that lists garnet species by color and RI. I've found it immensely helpful. Unfortunately the book is out of print, I think, but a used bookseller may have a copy. You can still get that book, $40 Australian plus $100 postage, Nahh, will give it a miss I think.
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Post by 1dave on Mar 28, 2024 7:55:56 GMT -5
This is my kind of thread!
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 28, 2024 11:05:26 GMT -5
pauls Thanks for posting this. I'd already seen and bookmarked her garnet illustration. Garnets, along with the feldspars, are two of the most complex minerals used for gems and the feldspar group illustration is a welcome addition to my collection. Garnets have been a special interest of mine for years. Differentiating garnet species in cut gems is difficult since there's so much intermixing (miscibility) between species and duplication of colors. If it's of interest to you, Dr. William A. Hanneman published a book some years back called "Naming Gem Garnets." It came with a fold-up "pyramid" called the "Rosetta Stone of Garnets" that lists garnet species by color and RI. I've found it immensely helpful. Unfortunately the book is out of print, I think, but a used bookseller may have a copy. You can still get that book, $40 Australian plus $100 postage, Nahh, will give it a miss I think. Don't blame you --it's gotten a LOT more expensive since bought mine.
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 28, 2024 12:15:14 GMT -5
Do you happen to know if the blue garnet is the one that is most often called the "color change garnet"? I can't remember.
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 28, 2024 14:44:52 GMT -5
Do you happen to know if the blue garnet is the one that is most often called the "color change garnet"? I can't remember. Yes, it's one of the CC types but not the only one. There's a wide range of them with different hues of several colors under different lighting: daylight vs. incandescent. I have some from Tanzania that can show as many as 3 colors depending on the color temperature of the light. As far as I can learn the blue only occurs as a CC garnet - no single hues. I spent some fun time looking at lots of parcels of them in L.A. after the discovery was first announced some 10 years back.
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 28, 2024 15:06:30 GMT -5
rockjunquie Forgot I had this image: they're difficult to shoot becuse 2 light temperatures are needed to show the change. This is just a little guy, under 1 carat s I recall.
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Post by Starguy on Mar 30, 2024 11:13:49 GMT -5
My goodness! I’ve never seen a color change that dramatic.
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 30, 2024 11:54:44 GMT -5
My goodness! I’ve never seen a color change that dramatic. I have quite a few with strong color change. What many people don't understand is that the pure colors don't appear in mixed lighting or in some in-between light temperatures. The standard is daylight or incandescent, just like the alexandrites that were dubbed "daylight emeralds, nighttime rubies" before electric lighting was invented and night viewing was by candlelight. Today "warm" incandescent lights have about the same color as candles. Here are a couple of my favorites. The cushion weighs 2.96 ct. and the trillion 1.66 ct.
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Post by Starguy on Mar 30, 2024 13:04:06 GMT -5
Garnets certainly are fascinating. I wonder how many doctorate degrees have been awarded based on the study of them.
The Idaho Almandites (?) I have are slightly attracted to strong magnets. There is a pretty wide color range in garnets from the Emerald Creek mining area as well.
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 30, 2024 19:07:52 GMT -5
Garnets certainly are fascinating. I wonder how many doctorate degrees have been awarded based on the study of them. The Idaho Almandites (?) I have are slightly attracted to strong magnets. There is a pretty wide color range in garnets from the Emerald Creek mining area as well. Don't know about Doctorates but I've always wished I could have done a lot more searching for Idaho garnets. I've seen some gorgeous cut stones from other N. Idaho areas apart from Emerald Creek that have wonderful color, indicating mixing with other garnet species like Pyrope. The magnetism is due to the high iron content of Almandines. Garnet color is fascinating to me. For instance, Almandine and Pyrope (with some major exceptions) are so dark-hued they cut almost black stones. But garnets love to mix species and when the two are mixed together they create the lovely intermediate species Rhodolite. And Rhodolite can contain other species like Spessartine, resulting in an awesome range of red-pink-purplish-orangish colors. Garnets have been vastly underrated gemstones.
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Post by rockinronda on Mar 30, 2024 19:30:30 GMT -5
This is all super fascinating 🍿
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