johntumbles
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Post by johntumbles on Apr 1, 2024 11:40:06 GMT -5
Hi all, Please direct me elsewhere if this conversation already exists. I found discussion for saw blades but not sic belts. I'm very new to lapidary work. I have tumbled for three years, but nothing else until now. I just built out an NS8 Lortone arbor with 8x3 expando wheels. I'm using Kingsley North's agglomerate silicon carbide belts. I have grits 80-1200. And then I have a 3,000 covington belt and a 14k and 50k from Johnson Brothers. I've only just started using the first belt, the 80 grit sic belt. The first stone I tried was a Mozambique agate. I wanted to "break in" the belt a bit. I'm running it with water dripping from the hood above the belt. The agate is sparking quite a lot. More than I expected and more than I've seen on any cabbing videos online. I can smell it sparking and I can see small sparks at its edges. And the whole agate glows a bit when I polish it's face. I put the agate aside, and I tried out a cladaphora fossil (I think they're around a 3-4 in hardness). This wasn't sparking. This felt more like what I've seen in videos online. I went back to the agate after awhile and it was still sparking. I increased the water by a lot, and the only way I could really reduce the sparking was with a ridiculous amount of water and a super light hand. Am I making a beginners mistake somewhere obvious? Has anyone dealt with this? More water? RPMS? Agate too hard for these belts? Thanks in advance! John
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Post by Rockoonz on Apr 1, 2024 12:00:44 GMT -5
RPM should be 1700-1800 like standard motor speed, check the ID plate. I get sparks off of some harder rocks in saws, flint and quartz/agate are pretty similar in crystalline structure. If it looks like mud sticking to the wheels while you're grinding, and especially with the heat and smell, more water would be good. With the arbors I have used I like to have a piece of the cheap dollar tree spun fiber pads (scotch brite) on the wheel surface to spread the water and reduce spray, not sure how you would mount on yours. Belts should be good, I have used them a lot.
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Post by chris1956 on Apr 1, 2024 12:21:14 GMT -5
I don't know about sic belts, but my 80 grit diamond wheels on my cabber often spark when cabbing anything quartz including agates.
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Post by pauls on Apr 2, 2024 15:36:16 GMT -5
Quite normal. It could be sparks or it could be triboluminescance, either way nothing to worry about, you are doing it with plenty of water aren't you? not worried about the sparks as much as airborne silica dust.
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johntumbles
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Post by johntumbles on Apr 3, 2024 20:02:26 GMT -5
Thank you all! I appreciate your comments. I had a good amount of water coming down, but I added a little drip irrigation sprayer attachment, and it's wetting the entire wheel much better.
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Post by Rockoonz on Apr 4, 2024 14:44:59 GMT -5
The mist fittings are nice and do a good job of wetting the wider wheels.
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samson663
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Post by samson663 on Apr 9, 2024 4:37:15 GMT -5
Apply gentle pressure when grinding the agate. Excessive pressure can create more friction and heat, leading to sparking. Let the abrasive do the work and avoid forcing the stone against the belt.
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Post by rmf on Apr 9, 2024 18:29:00 GMT -5
usually we don't have clear enough agates to see the sparking. If the agate is cool to the touch then sparking is OK since it is being abraded with the 80 grit. Use lots of water to not scorch(where it builds up heat and the heat pops the agate/quartz) the agate. You should not need ludicrous water (Space Balls ref) but having a good flow keeps the sparking down. Also quartz is also piezoelectric and just rubbing a clear quartz and some chalcedony will get you a flash of light though you may need to be in a dark room to see it. So if you fall under scorched but still sparking then you are ok
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