titaniumkid
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Post by titaniumkid on Jul 22, 2024 18:28:28 GMT -5
No but my crazy cowboy father likes catching them to keep preserved in alcohol. I got a giant scorpion frozen in my freezer 😂 You probably get it. The need to collect interesting animals like an old school naturalist.
I reached a point where I don't want dead animals in my life (though he just posted me a trapdoor spider and a wombat skull... which i don't really want) and I'm trying to kill my need to keep wild things as pets because I know they will live better lives in the wild.
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 22, 2024 20:58:47 GMT -5
Oh crap, hopefully it heals soon! Never knew that about ozone, very interesting. Ozone is a more radical form of oxygen, which can run from O3 to O25 (long chain ozone, polyatomic oxygen molecule) depending on how it is generated.
Since ozone has an unpaired electron, it is considered a radical, but this is also what gives it a lot of its amazing properties, such as the ability to selectively kill cancer cells, to destroy pathogens, to break down various toxins that can be in the body such as synthetic xenoestrogens, formaldehyde, etc.
Other benefits of ozone therapy include accelerated wound healing, increasing white blood cell activity, increasing immune cytokines, increasing levels of antioxidant catalase and peroxidases, breaking carbon monoxide-hemoglobin bonds, increasing 2,3 DPG allowing oxygen to be released from hemoglobin easier, and increasing levels of antioxidant, immune stimulating, anti-inflammatory and cancer destroying superoxide dismutase (SOD).
Ozone therapy was started in Germany in 1892, and came to the United States in 1898, giving it a grandfathered approval status under the law, which the FDA ignores to protect the profits of the pharmaceutical companies.
When it was first started though, ozone resistant plastics were not available making application of ozone limited and difficult. By the time this problem was solved, the highly corrupt AMA that was run by Morris Fishbein, was replaced by the FDA due to AMA corruption. Fishbein's idea of drug approval was if you advertise in the Journal of the AMA your drug would be approved, and if you refused to advertise in the Journal of the AMA, your drug would not get approved. Unfortunately, over time the FDA became massively more corrupt than the AMA was, and they have done everything they can illegally to suppress the use of ozone therapy that has been shown in thousands of studies to be safe and highly effective for a long list of diseases and conditions. Ozone therapy though is very cheap, very effective and cannot be patented, and therefore a major threat to the pharmaceutical industry the FDA works for.
For example, a medical ozone unit can be built for about $100 or bought for around $600-800 and an oxygen tank, regulator, tubing, etc. about another $200. Basically, around $1000 for a complete set up commercially that will last decades and can be used for so many different things. Compare that to let's say cancer therapy that will average around $300,000 and unlike with ozone therapy, the cancer will very likely come back for several reasons. Ozone selectively kills cancer cells, and cancer cells cannot build a tolerance to ozone the way they can to chemo or radiation. Ozone also kills hypoxic cancer cells, which radiation therapy and most chemo drugs cannot do. This is an example of why it is such as major financial threat to the medical industry, and why the FDA ignores the overwhelming medical evidence for it, and the FDA does everything they can to suppress it.
Just a few of the various medical studies on ozone.
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 22, 2024 21:00:44 GMT -5
Hope you keep healing fast. Even though you didn't feel the bite do you have any clue as to where it might have occurred? No idea. I go barefoot all around the house and yard. Could have been out in the rocks, in one of my boots, under the bed sheets, etc. They like dark places.
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 22, 2024 21:10:04 GMT -5
Doing better today. Pain has decreased some more. Tendons still very tight, so been trying to slowly stretch them. And have no vascular tone in the foot, so the blood vessels are constantly dilated. As long as my foot is up level on the bed or raised the foot color is pretty normal. As soon as I put the foot down the foot goes immediately dark red and the foot pounds as the blood rushes in the dilated blood vessels.
I was able to put a small amount of pressure on the foot today, but still using the crutches for support because I do not want to irritate it, and I am worried about if there was bone deterioration from the venom, which I suspect with the severe bone pain.
Taking supplements to build bone and to promote healing.
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Post by miket on Jul 22, 2024 22:40:26 GMT -5
James, I'm going to read up on those links you posted, thank you. Without going on a big, long tirade, the entire medical industry is corrupt and completely controlled by one thing- greed. There are some great people who do it all for the right reasons but in the end their resistance is futile until some major changes are made. I believe that there are many diseases, including cancer, that could definitely be cured- if only. People and their families suffer needlessly every single day. I guess that was a mini tirade, sorry! Anyway, continue to heal, sir, and thanks again for the knowledge!
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 23, 2024 0:15:21 GMT -5
James, I'm going to read up on those links you posted, thank you. Without going on a big, long tirade, the entire medical industry is corrupt and completely controlled by one thing- greed. There are some great people who do it all for the right reasons but in the end their resistance is futile until some major changes are made. I believe that there are many diseases, including cancer, that could definitely be cured- if only. People and their families suffer needlessly every single day. I guess that was a mini tirade, sorry! Anyway, continue to heal, sir, and thanks again for the knowledge! I agree that there are some people in medicine there for the right reasons. I was one of them until I got fed up with the corruption and greed I witnessed and left. I have known several naturopathic doctors as well that left allopathic medicine and took the additional training to become naturopathic doctors so they could actually do more to help people. People who are in medicine because they actually wan to help people, and not for the money, are far outnumbered by those who do enter medicine simply for the medicine.
This is true in many fields though, such as the police, but instead of being specific about each and every individual, we generalize about the profession in general.
Cancer cures have existed for hundreds of years, but truly effective cancer therapies are rarely ever allowed. I have been researching cancer for 45 years, when I started as part of a cancer treatment invention I wanted to work on. As I did the research on everything I could find on cancer, I found cure after cure after cure proven to work for cancer and banned by the FDA. The same applies to many other diseases because keeping the person sick, but covering up symptoms or treating them for something they do not have makes more money. Especially considering the side effects of many medications that then need to be treated with more medications.
And again, these cures for cancer and other diseases are reported in the medical journals, but nothing gets done because the pharmaceutical industry is too powerful, and many politicians get bribes or are invested in pharmaceutical companies. And did you know that the Bush family were major stock holders in Eli Lily Pharmaceutical Company? Furthermore, 4 of President Bush's cabinet members were heads of pharmaceutical companies. This is why Bush tried to block the import of cheaper drugs from Canada claiming they were not tested by FDA standards. Problems with this lie are the fact that the FDA does not test drugs to begin with. They take the research provided by the drug companies, which are often manipulated, then make their approval based on that research. By the way, any idea how many FDA officials go to work for pharmaceutical companies in high level positions after approving that drug companies drugs? Hint, it is a lot!!!!
A great example is the podophyllumtoxin derivatives, which were reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association and Journal of the American Cancer Society back around 1950 to be "highly effective" against 6 forms of cancer, including breast cancer. So, what did they do with the information? Nothing since it was derived from plants, mandrake root then savin junipers, and could not be patented. It was not until over 50 years later that the University of North Carolina synthesized the compound and sold it to a California drug company, which then took around another 13 years to get FDA approval. So, how many people died of these cancers that this compound was "highly effective" for while they worked on a way to make it profitable? This actually applies to numerous proven cancer cures, most of which are still banned by the FDA. So, do you really think the FDA, AMA and drug companies really care if we live or die? Or do they just see us as profits?
You may also want to do some research in to pharmaceutical and FDA corruption, such as the report in the medical journals over 30 years ago that the pharmaceutical companies were dropping patients that died or did not respond to chemo drugs to make them appear effective for FDA approval. A practice that still goes on today. Or when the FDA was busted for approving untested drugs in exchange for payoffs. Then they illegally went after the drug company that reported the corruption, in violation of the Whistleblower Act. Or the over 150 FDA officials that have been reported for over 50 years to own stock in the drug companies they oversee in violation of insider trading laws. Or how the FDA was Court ordered in 1969 to remove 710 FDA approved prescription drugs found to be ineffective or too dangerous for human use. The FDA found a loophole though and not only allowed all of these drugs to remain on the market, but also changed many of these drugs from prescription to over the counter. Most of these drugs are still on the market today. The list of corruption goes on and on, but one of the worst cases ever was the approval of AZT for people testing HIV+, which means neither infected nor even exposed. The massive accuracy problems with these tests and PCR have been well documented in the medical journals for many decades. Anyway, AZT was invented as a chemo drug in 1962, but was not allowed on the market initially since the drug was deemed far too deadly for human use. When AIDS "appeared", the drug was put on the market to recoup losses knowing full well that the drug would kill massive amounts of people. If you research AIDS and what it is, you will find facts like AIDS is not a disease, and HIV could not cause AIDS under the original definition. AIDS has several causes, but AZT was the primary cause of AIDS and deaths due to the fact that unlike HIV, AZT completely collapses the immune system leading to the opportunistic infections that originally defined AIDS. In fact, the largest study ever done on AZT, the Concorde Study, determined that the drug shortened the lives of people testing HIV+.
So, if I have a negative view of the medical establishment, there is a good reason for it. Both what I have personally witnessed, and from all the research I have done on medical corruption over the last 4 decades.
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 23, 2024 0:31:37 GMT -5
Good news, I got up to make breakfast a little while ago and I was able to finally able to put some pressure on the foot. I was able to walk on the foot very slowly and carefully for the first time in a week. Going to fix more to eat, then put the ozone back on the foot for a while again. By the way, some info on brown recluse bites: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537045/And on oxygen therapy as a treatment. This is about hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT), but ozone is stronger and has the same and more activities than HBOT). pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27846029/
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Post by liveoak on Jul 23, 2024 6:44:09 GMT -5
WOW, James, hope you recover fast. Interesting info on the ozone treatment. Thanks for posting it.
Patty
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Fossilman
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Post by Fossilman on Jul 23, 2024 9:56:14 GMT -5
Damn OUCH!
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Post by ThomasT on Jul 23, 2024 15:21:44 GMT -5
Don't mess around and let gangrene get started... Brown Recluse bites can be very serious with a lot of tissue necrosis.
I keep doxycycline and ciprofloxacin stocked at all times in my pharmaceutical stash for remote overseas travel and emergencies. These tools have saved my and at least one other's life in my past.
Hope you get well soon.
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Post by realrockhound on Jul 23, 2024 23:42:02 GMT -5
Spiders are pretty fascinating lil critters. Crazy how something so small can have such nasty lil bites. My dad got bit by a black widow. Has a nice scar on him where they had to remove tissue and pack it with gauze.
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 24, 2024 1:20:20 GMT -5
Don't mess around and let gangrene get started... Brown Recluse bites can be very serious with a lot of tissue necrosis. I keep doxycycline and ciprofloxacin stocked at all times in my pharmaceutical stash for remote overseas travel and emergencies. These tools have saved my and at least one other's life in my past. Hope you get well soon. Yes, very aware of the danger. This is my second time being bit by a recluse and treated it myself the first time as well. I was already taking rue for my vision, which is also an antivenom. Then when I found out what the bite was, I loaded up on a lot of echinacea, which is a hyaluronidase inhibitor (HI). In short, hyaluronidase is an enzyme that breaks down the "glue" for our cells, hyaluronic acid, down. Venoms use hyaluronidase to spread, as do cancer cells for natural metastases. Therefore, HIs prevent venom spread as well as natural cancer metastases. Myrrh is a much better choice, but I went with what I knew and had at the time. Localized the venom to just my lower arm between the wrist and elbow. Then took 6 months for the dead tissue, which was all superficial to all slough off.
The risk is not just the gangrene, but also potential other issues such as kidney failure in part from the uric acid load from the necrosis and hemolysis.
Also treated the gangrene that was developing in my fingers after getting crushed and torn up by a 380 pound boulder using the ozone.
Antibiotics are way too risky in my opinion, including some can lead to permanent nerve damage. I will not touch pharmaceutical antibiotics. I prefer ozone, or I know plenty of far superior herbal antibiotics that do not pose the risks of pharmaceutical antibiotics.
The foot is almost healed using the ozone with 4 days of ozone therapy.
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 24, 2024 1:23:32 GMT -5
Spiders are pretty fascinating lil critters. Crazy how something so small can have such nasty lil bites. My dad got bit by a black widow. Has a nice scar on him where they had to remove tissue and pack it with gauze. I got bit in the stomach by a black widow once that was in my bed. For whatever reason though, I never got sick or had any tissue damage. Just felt the bite and when I pulled the sheet down saw the spider. Not sure if they can bite without releasing venom like adult rattlesnakes.
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 24, 2024 1:28:57 GMT -5
Update on the foot. feeling about 98% better. Swelling is all down, bone pain very minimal and foot is back to a normal color other than a red spot still on top of the foot. The tendons in the big toe are still very tight, but the tightness in the heel tendon is almost gone.
I was able to start walking on the foot last night, despite being painful. Just had to go slow and careful slowly putting pressure on foot.
Tonight, I have been able to walk on the foot a lot easier. Still not able to walk normally, but getting much closer.
Figure maybe a couple more days to be back to normal walking at this rate.
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Post by RickB on Jul 24, 2024 13:53:11 GMT -5
Update on the foot. feeling about 98% better. Swelling is all down, bone pain very minimal and foot is back to a normal color other than a red spot still on top of the foot. The tendons in the big toe are still very tight, but the tightness in the heel tendon is almost gone. I was able to start walking on the foot last night, despite being painful. Just had to go slow and careful slowly putting pressure on foot. Tonight, I have been able to walk on the foot a lot easier. Still not able to walk normally, but getting much closer. Figure maybe a couple more days to be back to normal walking at this rate. Good news James. You'll be back to rockhounding in about a week.
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Post by Pat on Jul 24, 2024 14:01:25 GMT -5
Glad to hear! Keep it up!
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 24, 2024 18:37:11 GMT -5
Update on the foot. feeling about 98% better. Swelling is all down, bone pain very minimal and foot is back to a normal color other than a red spot still on top of the foot. The tendons in the big toe are still very tight, but the tightness in the heel tendon is almost gone. I was able to start walking on the foot last night, despite being painful. Just had to go slow and careful slowly putting pressure on foot. Tonight, I have been able to walk on the foot a lot easier. Still not able to walk normally, but getting much closer. Figure maybe a couple more days to be back to normal walking at this rate. Good news James. You'll be back to rockhounding in about a week. Will still be a month or so before I head out again. We are still up around 112F. Way too hot to be taking Jax out. Even our higher altitude areas we go to are going to up around 100F.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jul 24, 2024 20:57:58 GMT -5
Glad to hear your foot is healing so quickly, James. That ozone really seems to do the trick.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 24, 2024 21:51:35 GMT -5
Dang James...sorry I missed seeing this when you posted it!
I'm glad to read the Ozone treatments are accelerating the recovery!
I'm betting Jax has been curled up beside you...and if she hasn't been, just lie to me and tell me she was! LOL
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 25, 2024 11:24:28 GMT -5
Dang James...sorry I missed seeing this when you posted it! I'm glad to read the Ozone treatments are accelerating the recovery! I'm betting Jax has been curled up beside you...and if she hasn't been, just lie to me and tell me she was! LOL She has been jumping up on the bed more often lately to get belly rubs and head scritches, then she curls up against me to sleep until he gets too warm, then she jumps back down off the bed.
Jax loves liking my legs and feet as well, then laying her head om them to take a nap.
Finally got out and went over to a friend's house for the first time in about a week and a half. So, Jax was really excited to be able to go somewhere since I have not even been able to take her for her walks.
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