wayneo5169
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Post by wayneo5169 on Jul 25, 2024 17:15:45 GMT -5
I live in Maine. I love it… until it’s time to fire up the 16” slab saw in an unheated garage in the winter. I don’t want to heat the garage and I don’t want to run the oil heater 24/7 because I might go a week or more without cutting any slabs. I have thought about adhesive oil pan heaters (Wolverine, etc). Does anyone have any recommendations about how many watt heater would be needed to warm up the oil in the saw when starting from below zero, ideally within 1-2 hours?
Also, the instructions I am reading say to remove any paint before applying to prevent the pad from delaminating and coming off. Anyone with experience with these pads?
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Post by Rockoonz on Jul 26, 2024 11:53:11 GMT -5
How about magnetic? looked like tractor supply has this for $40ish, maybe better through the RTH amazon link...
My concern is that 275f is way too hot, so perhaps rigging up a twist timer switch inline and only run it like 15-30 minutes at a time?
I have a attic fan switch to exhaust the space above my shop, perhaps there is an adjustable one for heating instead of cooling.
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Post by Rockoonz on Jul 26, 2024 11:55:38 GMT -5
Other nice thing with magnetic is you can experiment with the best spot to put it.
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Post by Rockoonz on Jul 26, 2024 11:57:06 GMT -5
I could use a water jacket and a chiller right now, I shut it all down at about 100 degrees outside, which is about 10am right now.
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Mark K
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Post by Mark K on Jul 26, 2024 14:57:13 GMT -5
The 275 is the engine temp. You are not going to heat your oil that hot with that thing. They mean when the engine is running it will kick off. My issue is that I can't run my Everclean in the winter because the garbage quality pumps will not pump the oil below a certain balmy temp. With the pump I just ordered, I suspect that the issue will be moot.
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Post by wayneo5169 on Jul 26, 2024 16:34:24 GMT -5
I could use a water jacket and a chiller right now, I shut it all down at about 100 degrees outside, which is about 10am right now. I don’t envy you those temps! I can always add clothes, but once I’m ‘neked’ there ain’t any further to go! Thanks for the video. I was worried about the high heat as well. The flash point for mineral oil is 335º F. I doubt that the device could heat the oil that high with an ambient temperature significantly below freezing, at least I would hope not, but I’d really rather not burn down the house! |
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Post by wayneo5169 on Jul 26, 2024 17:07:04 GMT -5
The 275 is the engine temp. You are not going to heat your oil that hot with that thing. They mean when the engine is running it will kick off. My issue is that I can't run my Everclean in the winter because the garbage quality pumps will not pump the oil below a certain balmy temp. With the pump I just ordered, I suspect that the issue will be moot. Mark, you are the guy I wanted to speak with! I saw your post on another thread talking about getting a stronger pump and was wondering several things. I understand your problem with the oil pump for the EverClean. Is there standing oil in the EverClean before you turn it on? If so, I could see where you might have to heat that first in order to get it to function. Do you think that warming the oil in the saw box first before engaging the EverClean would be enough to allow the oil to thin and let the pump work with less strain? Or do you think that the EverClean unit itself would require heating? My EverClean will only be attached to a single 16” slab saw. What pump are you replacing with? Thanks for responding. |
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Post by Rockoonz on Jul 26, 2024 22:22:02 GMT -5
I could use a water jacket and a chiller right now, I shut it all down at about 100 degrees outside, which is about 10am right now. I don’t envy you those temps! I can always add clothes, but once I’m ‘neked’ there ain’t any further to go! Thanks for the video. I was worried about the high heat as well. The flash point for mineral oil is 335º F. I doubt that the device could heat the oil that high with an ambient temperature significantly below freezing, at least I would hope not, but I’d really rather not burn down the house! The oil is also supposed to be cooling the blade. At 100 plus temperatures here I have had a 18" saw blade basically lose it's tension and become wonky, and return to normal when it cools, strangest thing. As long as the oil isn't gelling it's probably fine. |
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Post by Mark K on Jul 26, 2024 22:32:32 GMT -5
The 275 is the engine temp. You are not going to heat your oil that hot with that thing. They mean when the engine is running it will kick off. My issue is that I can't run my Everclean in the winter because the garbage quality pumps will not pump the oil below a certain balmy temp. With the pump I just ordered, I suspect that the issue will be moot. Mark, you are the guy I wanted to speak with! I saw your post on another thread talking about getting a stronger pump and was wondering several things. I understand your problem with the oil pump for the EverClean. Is there standing oil in the EverClean before you turn it on? If so, I could see where you might have to heat that first in order to get it to function. Do you think that warming the oil in the saw box first before engaging the EverClean would be enough to allow the oil to thin and let the pump work with less strain? Or do you think that the EverClean unit itself would require heating? My EverClean will only be attached to a single 16” slab saw. What pump are you replacing with? Thanks for responding. My issue is that the pump itself is the problem. There is always some oil in the hoses which is what is going to stay cold until it begins to run through the system for a while. But, if you can't start the oil to flowing, you can't get the rest of the system operating like it should. The unit itself will work at just about any temp so far as I can tel. The oil will probably clear up in the centrifuge quicker in warmer temps, but I suspect that as it heats up, it will get better and better. I don't, of course, think the system will work on the same level as the summer temps will allow, but as long as it is clearing the oil, I don't think I will care. I also have been contemplating using a heater for the saw, but last year, I just aimed the forced air heater at it and it worked for the time I was out in the garage. That is probably all I will do again. I just ordered a pump from vervor that is rated for constant duty.It will screw right into my system already in place with no modifications needed. It remains to be seen if vervor stuff is going to be garbage or alright. |
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