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Post by RickB on Jul 31, 2024 11:59:21 GMT -5
Daisy at 6 1/2 months old and her sparring partner Lucy (7 1/2 months old lab) sweating me for some Utz hard pretzels.  How about some photos of those coastal plain finds on the wall...if only dogs could be trained to pick up arrowheads. - Most from central SC. Many more that need to be put into frames. Have you ever found a cone? I found the one in the last two photos in the mid 1960's here in columbia. I've read that archaeologists don't know what they were used for. The few that I've seen all had a small dimple on the flat side and the dimples were shallow with no sign of wear use. This one is made from a local rhyolite that most likely came down from the Uwharee Mountains of NC. They are known to have been created by the mound builders and are fairly scarce. I've always thought that they were just a mound-like effigy.      |
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Post by rockbrain on Jul 31, 2024 14:03:41 GMT -5
That's an incredible collection! I'm jealous. Now that I've found a megalodon tooth the next things on my bucket list are an arrow head and a mammoth tooth!
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Post by RickB on Jul 31, 2024 15:26:25 GMT -5
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Post by rockbrain on Jul 31, 2024 17:06:01 GMT -5
Boy you have some great finds. I love the chunk of deer antler too.
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Post by liveoak on Jul 31, 2024 17:55:32 GMT -5
That's quite the collection, Rick.
I'm wondering if your "cone" is the cap stone or hand rest for a fire making drill ?
Patty
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Post by RickB on Jul 31, 2024 18:12:12 GMT -5
That's quite the collection, Rick.
I'm wondering if your "cone" is the cap stone or hand rest for a fire making drill ?
Patty
Patty, that was my first thought when I found it but: It is a very scarce item. If these were used for a fire bow drill there would be plenty of them around, but there aren't. Also, the dimple is so slight on the ones that I have and have seen that I just don't see the wear that should be expected from a bow drill. Edit: This is the closest thing I could find for the cones. Different uses depending on size and shape. peachstatearchaeologicalsociety.org/index.php/9-hardstone/165-cones |
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Post by jamesp on Aug 1, 2024 8:49:54 GMT -5
Guessing you find both quartz and chert points in central S Carolina RickB ? You have a fine collection. Looks like lots of hours walking plowed fields ? Looks like a heavy Savannah River point influence. Your finds are similar to central and north Georgia except the points with long stems. Very nice collection. Amazing how few paleo designs we find, maybe 1 in 100 or less. The cone artifact is not familiar. Sure looks like they focused on making it very uniform. |
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Post by ThomasT on Aug 1, 2024 9:46:59 GMT -5
Very nice collection. I need to mount mine.
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Post by RickB on Aug 2, 2024 6:46:50 GMT -5
Guessing you find both quartz and chert points in central S Carolina RickB ? You have a fine collection. Looks like lots of hours walking plowed fields ? Looks like a heavy Savannah River point influence. Your finds are similar to central and north Georgia except the points with long stems. Very nice collection. Amazing how few paleo designs we find, maybe 1 in 100 or less. The cone artifact is not familiar. Sure looks like they focused on making it very uniform. . Savannah River point style and Morrow Mountain point styles are abundant. Used to search around the rivers alot but not much anymore. I tell people that here around Columbia SC that Native Americans used 80 percent quartz and quartzite. Rhyolite would comprise most of the remaining points with a few made of chert mainly from the Savannah River area. I am camping here at King's Mountain Revolutionary War Park/State Park for a Saturday-Sunday primitive flint knapping gathering. Will go to the Schiele Museum in Gastonia NC for the event which is being hosted by James Parker from Virginia. Many of the primitive tool knappers mostly from here along the Southeast will be attending. Let the flint knapping festivities begin. |
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Post by RickB on Aug 2, 2024 6:50:23 GMT -5
Very nice collection. I need to mount mine. Waiting for the photos when you frame them. |
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Post by jamesp on Aug 2, 2024 7:28:47 GMT -5
Guessing you find both quartz and chert points in central S Carolina RickB ? You have a fine collection. Looks like lots of hours walking plowed fields ? Looks like a heavy Savannah River point influence. Your finds are similar to central and north Georgia except the points with long stems. Very nice collection. Amazing how few paleo designs we find, maybe 1 in 100 or less. The cone artifact is not familiar. Sure looks like they focused on making it very uniform. . Savannah River point style and Morrow Mountain point styles are abundant. Used to search around the rivers alot but not much anymore. I tell people that here around Columbia SC that Native Americans used 80 percent quartz and quartzite. Rhyolite would comprise most of the remaining points with a few made of chert mainly from the Savannah River area. I am camping here at King's Mountain Revolutionary War Park/State Park for a Friday-Sunday primitive flint knapping gathering. Fixing to go to the Schiele Museum in Gastonia NC for the event which is being hosted by James Parker from Virginia. Many of the primitive tool knappers mostly from here along the Southeast will be attending. Let the flint knapping festivities begin. Headed to a funeral today. When I get back I'll post a page from "Indians and Artifacts From the SouthEast" by Bert Bierer of the cone/hemisphere artifact you found. Not much said about it, it is lumped in with fish hooks/spools/plummets/earplugs/boatstones/gorgets. It says it is Ohio River valley culture, usually made of hematite and polished. The book was published in 1977 in Columbia SC. Must have if you don't have it. Have a good time at the knap-in. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Aug 2, 2024 23:27:07 GMT -5
You definitely have a point here Rick!  ...if we could only know what those points have been through... |
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Post by jamesp on Aug 3, 2024 10:48:28 GMT -5
Guessing you find both quartz and chert points in central S Carolina RickB ? You have a fine collection. Looks like lots of hours walking plowed fields ? Looks like a heavy Savannah River point influence. Your finds are similar to central and north Georgia except the points with long stems. Very nice collection. Amazing how few paleo designs we find, maybe 1 in 100 or less. The cone artifact is not familiar. Sure looks like they focused on making it very uniform. . Savannah River point style and Morrow Mountain point styles are abundant. Used to search around the rivers alot but not much anymore. I tell people that here around Columbia SC that Native Americans used 80 percent quartz and quartzite. Rhyolite would comprise most of the remaining points with a few made of chert mainly from the Savannah River area. I am camping here at King's Mountain Revolutionary War Park/State Park for a Saturday-Sunday primitive flint knapping gathering. Will go to the Schiele Museum in Gastonia NC for the event which is being hosted by James Parker from Virginia. Many of the primitive tool knappers mostly from here along the Southeast will be attending. Let the flint knapping festivities begin. Here is the half cone/hemisphere Rick. Other lithics added. Note the book covers portions of my Florida search area. Great book.     Book also shows mounds along Wateree, coastal S.C., Beaufort County, Stallings Island, Savannah River. Most discoveries made by Moorehead and Clarence B. Moore late 1800's to early 1900's. I have found many of his mound discoveries in GA/FL along rivers using his maps and found artifacts in such areas(not by mound digging). A few mounds are located in modern lakes, wave action has cut them open(ex. Lake Oconee GA and Lake Rodman FL). |
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Post by jamesp on Aug 5, 2024 15:34:20 GMT -5
Hope you don't get flooded by a possibly stagnant-over-SC-Debby RickB. A million $$$ worth of coc washed up at Islamorada. A good samaritan reported the 70 pound bale to L enforcement. Idaila about 50 miles south of Valdosta GA about a year ago, gust wind speed ~100mph. Wild stuff. |
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Post by Sabre52 on Dec 2, 2024 15:20:11 GMT -5
What an awesome collection. Got to say that cone is a stumper and the first I've ever seen. I seldom find complete points here on the ranch any more as point collecting is just too much of a hobby around here, but I've got to say it is always exciting when I do find one. I envy you your productive collecting area.
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