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Post by 1dave on Sept 8, 2024 20:21:36 GMT -5
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realrockhound
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Post by realrockhound on Sept 8, 2024 21:59:44 GMT -5
I used to do stone work (Mansonry). She dun goofed. Should’ve put down lath. That’s gonna fall off there some day 😂
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Post by cabby on Sept 9, 2024 8:04:36 GMT -5
realrockhound, when I hit play it started me at a little over halfway through the video so I’ve watched this before but quit in the middle… right when she’s mudding the board! Guess I had the exact same thought and stopped watching 😆 Btw haven’t done masonry myself, but my first house was plaster and stucco fixer upper, so learned about it (but hired instead of putting it into practice).
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Post by Rockoonz on Sept 9, 2024 10:08:34 GMT -5
I used to do stone work (Mansonry). She dun goofed. Should’ve put down lath. That’s gonna fall off there some day 😂 Some day soon, I would be using construction adhesive and just grouting for appearance. With the hot chimney I wouldn't probably use lath unless there is a fireproof type. All I have ever done is subway tile on a kitchen wall, and that was directly on painted green board. cabby it started at 15 minutes for me, maybe Dave knows a way to embed the videos to start at a predetermined point?
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Post by cabby on Sept 9, 2024 10:25:52 GMT -5
Rockoonz my last house was from 1961… the stucco and plaster in that house used metal lathe. The plaster lathe was more like chicken wire while the stucco had something more like hardware cloth. Current house (1917 sears kit) is good old wood lathe plaster.
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Post by Rockoonz on Sept 9, 2024 14:08:06 GMT -5
Rockoonz my last house was from 1961… the stucco and plaster in that house used metal lathe. The plaster lathe was more like chicken wire while the stucco had something more like hardware cloth. Current house (1917 sears kit) is good old wood lathe plaster. Our main house and casita are both exterior stucco here, the wire mesh over a foam backing like about 90% of homes in the Phoenix valley. I don't know how a mesh would work over the backer board. I had a friend who worked in a shop making stone panels in frames for hearths and under wood stoves, don't know if maybe they built some horizontally that were meant to be used vertically when finished, but it would make sense to me to build them flat and then attach to the wall.
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Post by cabby on Sept 9, 2024 14:22:35 GMT -5
I think I’m getting confused a bit lol. Not sure why there would be both mesh and a backer board? When you mention the foam board for the stucco do you mean a rigid insulation panel? The wire mesh I’ve seen for stucco and plaster is just attached to the framing with an air gap, no backer board needed. In my mind you can either use a lathe OR a backer board, not both.
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realrockhound
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Post by realrockhound on Sept 9, 2024 14:29:33 GMT -5
I used to do stone work (Mansonry). She dun goofed. Should’ve put down lath. That’s gonna fall off there some day 😂 Some day soon, I would be using construction adhesive and just grouting for appearance. With the hot chimney I wouldn't probably use lath unless there is a fireproof type. All I have ever done is subway tile on a kitchen wall, and that was directly on painted green board. cabby it started at 15 minutes for me, maybe Dave knows a way to embed the videos to start at a predetermined point? Its just a metal lath. Depending on what your structure is built of, you generally lay down a moister barrier (like a felt paper almost) then the lath over it. If the fireplace is laid in cmu block, you can add extra Lyme to the mix and apply straight to the block. Gives it a way better bond when the moisture sucks out. The type of stone you use as well dictate’s best practices. But I’ve seen in the past where people didn’t use lath (especially outside in the weather) and it pops right off after a few winters. Insides a tad different, however I didn’t see and support under what she laid. Once the house settles more, I’ll give it 10 years before it falls off in one big sheet 😂
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Post by 1dave on Sept 9, 2024 17:40:31 GMT -5
I was interested in the rocks she found locally, her knowing nothing about rocks.
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