Debbie
noticing nice landscape pebbles
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Post by Debbie on Jul 28, 2006 19:23:06 GMT -5
Hey all! just joined after lurking for a while. Nice site and nice people here! I live in Lodi Ca. I have a 3LB Lortone tumbler and a very old Adamson tumbler that is gear driven. I belong to the local rock club and want to get into intarsia if I can find a book for idiots somewhere!! I already have a Univeral Polisher so I can start working towards that. I would like to get with other rockhounders and go on some field trips. I have a hard time finding good rocks just from looking on the outside. A mentor would be great but I guess I will have to learn from the internet and books. Debbie
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Post by sandsman1 on Jul 28, 2006 22:51:33 GMT -5
hi deb welcome we have acouple members in ca. so maybe they will be close enuff to get together with or send ya to the right places to find some goodys
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Debbie
noticing nice landscape pebbles
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Post by Debbie on Jul 29, 2006 10:02:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcome. I really like this board everyone is very friendly and helpful. Debbie
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Post by Cher on Jul 29, 2006 17:03:31 GMT -5
Hi Debbie, Welcome to the board, sounds like you're already pretty well hooked so you've come to the right place. Be interesting to see what you do when you learn the intarsia, hope you have a camera.
Cher
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Post by BAZ on Jul 31, 2006 20:11:00 GMT -5
~Oh Lord, stuck in Lodi again... oh sorry, welcome Debbie!
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Debbie
noticing nice landscape pebbles
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Post by Debbie on Aug 1, 2006 15:38:33 GMT -5
When we told people in NC we were moving here I had one friend who sang that song. I have never heard it as far as I can remember. Debbie
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Shelbeeray
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Post by Shelbeeray on Aug 7, 2006 20:10:47 GMT -5
Welcome to the board Debbie! It'll be really neat to see what you do with the intarsia and everything else!
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Debbie
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Post by Debbie on Aug 8, 2006 17:35:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcome. I am still trying to find a book or something that explains the steps to tkae with the intarsia.
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KG1960
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Post by KG1960 on Aug 10, 2006 8:52:19 GMT -5
Almost every day I find ample opportunities to demonstrate my ignorance, and now is no exception. What is intarsia?
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Post by deb193 on Aug 10, 2006 10:46:11 GMT -5
I had no luck on a good book. I found a few web sites with examples. One book had a small chapter near the end. I think I have the web pages bookmarked in my home machine. I will look tonight.
Doc posted a pic of a nice intarsia cab he did a while back. I am in the process of making some lapidary tiles that would technically be intarsia. I would love to do a full blown rock picture one day. I have enough rock of different colors that the color palette should be no problem, and my little glass grinder can handle any curves I need. Just need some time!
What kind/size intarsia were you thinking of?
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Post by deb193 on Aug 11, 2006 8:20:03 GMT -5
Intarsias and Mosaics In both intarsia and mosaic work, small bits of different colored stones are fit together and the top cut and polished to present a picture or other interesting pattern. Strictly speaking, a mosaic is constructed on top of a flat base of another material (usuallystone), while an intarsia (also known as Florentine mosaic, or pietre dure) is set flush into the surface of the base material. The finest intarsias and mosaics were traditionally of Italian origin, but intarsia has enjoyed something of a renaissance in recent years with the fine work of artists such as Jim Kaufmann and Nicolai Medvedev OK, Here is one of the links I had: www.americanmastersofstone.com/How-to.htmand another, but no "How-to" here, www.rhodoco.com/rhodoco.com/Sqbox.htmlThis one is OK, www.stepbystepbeads.com/jj/798jjw.cfmScroll down to message#7 on this one, www.gemcutters.org/LDA/Archive/html%20files/LD066.htmSOme books I found, (but have not bought yet). The are more about wood intarsia, but could be useful: Basic Intarsia: With Lucille CrabtreeIntarsiaThere seem to be a number of classes, like these below which are from the William Holland School of Lapidary Arts: INTARSIA (BASIC & ADVANCED) - TOM & KAY BENHAM
Tom and Kay have been involved in lapidary and metalsmithing for many years and have taught Intarsia (faceting machine method) at William Holland and Wildacres since 1997. Tom studied Intarsia with Phil Magistro and both studied Intarsia with Jim Kaufman. Tom and Kay are Contributing Editors for Lapidary Journal's monthly Jewelry Journal column and frequent Step-by-Step Project contributors as well as coeditors of The Florida Society of Goldsmiths State Newsletter. Basic: This highly structured class will instruct and immerse the beginning student in basic techniques of constructing Intarsia using a faceting machine as well as the history and lore of Intarsia. Depending upon individual skill-levels, students usually complete two or three projects during the class. For a $60.00 fee, each student will receive a kit that provides all the materials, adhesives and manuals necessary to complete two Intarsia projects. (Note: Lab-created opal and reconstituted stone materials are used in this class because they closely simulate real stones, are more consistent and reliable, and enable students to complete the projects in a timely manner as well as controlling costs.) Additional materials will be available for purchase. Students are encouraged to bring their own faceting machine and laps, if available, if not, machines are available at the school. General lapidary knowledge and skills and a course in either Cabochons or Faceting are prerequisites for this class.
INTARSIA - RICHARD KORS Has a permanent certification as a Certified Supreme Master Gemcutter from the American Society of Gemcutters. Has taught faceting at the Tidewater Gem & Mineral Society and the Gem & Mineral Society of the Virginia Peninsula. Has taught at William Holland School since 1995.
SOme sites with nice things I don't have the money to buy, but one day I could maybe make something in the same direction: These boxes use crushed stone: www.uniqueboxshop.com/ingebo.htmlBoxes at this site are made of stone, but the intarsia lids are what 1st motivated me to start making lapidary tile lids for wood boxes: www.naturescollectibles.com/inboca1.html
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Debbie
noticing nice landscape pebbles
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Post by Debbie on Aug 11, 2006 13:10:35 GMT -5
Thanks for all that information! Some of the websites I have found already and the one on the classes also. I don't know exactly what I want to do yet. Iplan to start small until I gt the hang of it. I have a fish I want to start with. I quilt so I am going to use applique patterns to start with that are all straight sided. The problem with using the wood intarsia is that they make their pictures to be 3-D instead of flat. I need pointers on the finer points of making the pieces line up. I am not a perfectionist so that doesn't help matters either. I will check out the sites listed in more depth and see what I can come up with. I just wish there was a good in depth beginner book for it. Debbie
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Debbie
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Post by Debbie on Aug 11, 2006 13:18:07 GMT -5
I would love to do some of those boxes too. They are so pretty and can be useful. I have several directions I want to go with this. Just need time and ideas. Those are good sites to bookmark. One I already found earlier. Let me know what you end up making I would like to see it! Debbie
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Post by deb193 on Aug 11, 2006 14:19:59 GMT -5
Debbie - Here is a thread about one of the boxes I have in progress. forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/index.cgi?board=Pictures&action=display&thread=1151781980I am debating about gluing the tile up and then flat lapping the face to polish, or Cutting the center tile and Dalmatian jasper and polishing separately in my vibrating tumbler. Then cut the black jade strips a little lower (kinda like grout). The effect would be like a picture out of ceramic tiles. You would see each stone and each stone would have a little beveled edge. The black jade would be lower and not have a polish (unless I flat lap the face before I cut the strips). The advantage of the 2nd method is that I don't have to flat lap the final tile. All the pieces will fit in my vibe, but a 4.25 inch tile wouldn't fit no how. I am also kicking the idea of making a few sized center tiles, a few different sized borders, and lots of black strips - then letting folks put together the tile they want to see. I have four 4x4 premium wood boxes from a vendor I like (laserreproductions.com) 2 4x4 basic boxes 2 4x4 not so good boxes from old vendor 4 2x2 basic boxes from new vendor 1 3x6 premium wood box from new vendor. The one in the thread above is being held incomplete for a exhibit at a show on the 26th, but I hope to complete a few of the 2x2 by then. I have also toyed with the idea of making stone boxes out of pet wood or McDermitt picture jasper. I could use a piece of slate or marble tile for the base. I just need to focus and finish a few of these projects. Does anyone know where I can get a longer attention span?
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Debbie
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Post by Debbie on Aug 11, 2006 16:53:46 GMT -5
My son is on medication to help with his ADD. Maybe that would help you! LOL I remember seeing and reading that thread about your box. I think what you are making is so pretty. How do you get the edges to match up so there are no gaps? Debbie
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Post by deb193 on Aug 14, 2006 9:02:30 GMT -5
Well in photoshop it is all easy. In the real world, I have a little 1" drum grinder like they used for the edges of stained glass. There is a fence that can be clamped onto the grinder table so that a slab edge could be squared up - kind of like a joiner for woodworking.
Starting with a good straight saw cut is helpful too.
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Debbie
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Post by Debbie on Aug 15, 2006 23:44:58 GMT -5
I am looking to get a trim saw one of these days, then I can try to cut a straight line. I read on one the sites for intarsia that one artist put grit between the two edges and rubs them together to get the rough edges off and have them match up better.
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slopoker1
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Post by slopoker1 on Aug 20, 2006 11:43:26 GMT -5
Hello Group New Member Here Called Poker From Southwest Louisiana Spot In The Road Called Longville 25 Miles North Of Lake Charles ... I Read Quit A Few Messages From Group Yesterday Sounded Quit Interesting .. Sounds Like A Great Place To Be And Learn And Have A Bit Of Fun.. I Am Brand New To The Rock Tumbleing Hobby .. Have Tryed To Gain knowledge From The InterNet .. So I Bought A Thumler Tumbler Model B hs. And Thumler VB10 And A CE. 3lb Double Drum.. There Is Not A Lot Of Rocks To Be Found Other Than The Gravel Pits Around Here And Some Of The Roads Or Still Gravel .. Oh Well .. You All Have A Great Day... Poker
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181lizard
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Post by 181lizard on Aug 23, 2006 11:25:43 GMT -5
Hi Poker and welcome to our home! You'd be suprised at what you might be able to find in Louisiana...I have some petrified palm wood that's pretty cool! And anyway...you've now hooked up with a ton of people who know where to go to get the good stuff! Husband is a Louisianan too! (born in Baton Rouge & lived in Hammond for a few years...still have people down there) So once again, welcome!
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