MichiganRocks
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Post by MichiganRocks on Dec 9, 2004 15:14:31 GMT -5
Anybody got any advice for the NHL or the hockey players? I for one think that they should all grow up and act like they have a real job. A winter without hockey.... I'm not sure that I can make it!
Ron
Go Red Wings, home of the original "Grind Line".
ps. I just thought we needed a little lighter topic for a while.
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Foreverdown
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Post by Foreverdown on Dec 9, 2004 15:24:57 GMT -5
Hey Ron, I thought Red Wings were shoes. Brett
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Post by Cher on Dec 9, 2004 17:19:29 GMT -5
Aww my sympathies Ron, really but boy am I glad I can live without it. *smile* Yeah, I'm not a big hockey fan anymore ... too much violence. I liked hockey when they played by skill, not by how hard they could ram someone into the boards. Busted noses and broken bones were totally accidents, not from ice rage.
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Post by rockyraccoon on Dec 9, 2004 18:12:53 GMT -5
are the hockey players on strike or something? why is there no hockey?
kim
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MichiganRocks
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Post by MichiganRocks on Dec 16, 2004 4:38:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I think hockey just might be finished in this country, at least the way that it's been. Money has ruined the game here, and now it's heading down the same road in Europe. Russian teams have started offering salaries that even the high spending American teams can't match. The hockey that survives here will more at the minor league level. I guess that the saying, "Keep your stick on the ice!" won't have much meaning anymore.
Ron
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Post by cookie3rocks on Dec 16, 2004 16:48:17 GMT -5
Ron, I'm just now getting that the one penguin slaps the other one in the head before he goes through the ice. Too Funny! Is that for real or coputer generated? And how do you put up a moving thumbnail?
cookie
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Post by Toad on Dec 16, 2004 20:04:33 GMT -5
Let the rich boys (players and owners) see how much we miss them. Not.
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MichiganRocks
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Post by MichiganRocks on Feb 18, 2005 13:53:22 GMT -5
What? I've already forgotten what hockey is was. I hope everyone's happy now. Ron
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Post by Tweetiepy on Feb 18, 2005 14:29:58 GMT -5
Personally, I preferred when there was hockey, at least then hubby was not watching poker, cricket & bowling as sports!!! He looks so lost without his hockey, he's lacking life. Maybe I should smack him upside the head with a rock? Get the blood flowing again… ;D
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Post by krazydiamond on Feb 18, 2005 14:35:45 GMT -5
i understand what this thread was all about now (duh) after CNN had it on the box that there will be no hockey this season. too bad they couldn't come to an agreement/compromise. i'm not a sports fan, per se, but i preferred hockey to some of the other "team" sports like basketball or football.
just have to start cranking out more canes in your spare time, Ron!
KD
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phoenix1647
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Post by phoenix1647 on Feb 18, 2005 18:10:57 GMT -5
No such critter as sports anymore...it'a all business. These players (no matter what "sport") are overpaid, under worked and out of controll. Same for the owners.
I'll start watching sporting events when it becomes a sport/game once again...which ain't gonna happen in my lifetime..so let the rocks tumble as they may.
Pho
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Post by krazydiamond on Feb 18, 2005 18:33:44 GMT -5
working hard for the money...
i guess i really prefer the solo sports, and you are right, Pho, it's all for the money these days, save for a few. Dame Ellen MacArthur (the lady that just broke the record for sailing around the world, which in truth was circumnavigating Antartica from England) did it for love (i hope) and not for future endorsements.
my opinion, as usual,
KD
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Post by stefan on Feb 25, 2005 10:55:48 GMT -5
Ahhh Hockey- Man I used to love that sport- Played it all summer (street) and winter (ice). Used to live for tickets to the Sabre Games! LOVED LOVED LOVED the game- Then something happened. Everybody got greedy! Fighting was the name of the game! Skills went out the window! Now- well I only watch hockey when Professional Wrestling is too tame! (just kidding)
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MichiganRocks
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Post by MichiganRocks on Feb 25, 2005 14:11:28 GMT -5
Personally, I preferred when there was hockey, at least then hubby was not watching poker, cricket & bowling as sports!!! It's kind of sad that Poker is drawing a bigger audience on TV than hockey did, and watching Poker just barely beats out watching corn grow. Ron
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Post by gaetzchamp on Feb 28, 2005 1:52:02 GMT -5
Don't even get me started. I know a little about hockey. I played 3 years Junior A in the USHL, 4 years of Collegiate hockey in Wisconsin, and a year in the minors and europe.
First of all, I think they've over "expanded". Too far, too fast. I guess that's the case w/ baseball too. From what I understand, they don't even have a TV contract here in the US. Who are they trying to kid. They've moved most of their teams out of Canada (Winnipeg, Quebec...how the ()#@@ that happened I'll never figure out...NHL w/out the Nordiques is a farse.)
Hockey really is one of the greatest sports around; (I guess I'm biased right?) the athletes are extremely gifted, hardworking, and united. Rarely do they travel in a "posse" and desire to have all the attention. Most players are down home kids with humble, modest upbringings. Hockey is not a sport that people can just turn on the tube and say "hey this is great". People need to get into the stands, watch the puck move, hear the players' skates grind thru the ice, hear the boards rattle after a good clean body check. It takes 3 or 4 times to understand the rules and follow the puck. My wife has watched hockey for years and still cannot follow the puck too well. She's only 32 and has great vision. I know where the puck is because I know the tactics of "cycling", "supporting the puck" etc. The general public in the USA just doesn't have the "arena" time in to appreciate the tactics, dedication and passion that hockey players have. For the most part, our kids don't play hockey, we didn't play hockey, our parents or grandparents didn't play hockey. Canadians grew up on the ice, literally on ever corner, lake and stream. They played hockey, their friends played hockey and their boyfriends played hockey. They grew up watching Peter Puck, Don Cherry (and that stupid mutt of his) and Hockey Night in Canada (their version of Monday Night Football) and they are not foreign to it. Americans will probably never be that fortunate, except those in northern climes where every park is turned into a sheet of ice in winter. If I've been told correctly, the Minnesota High School Hockey Tourney is the largest attended high school tournament in the nation.
The NHL games are every bit as expensive to attend as the other major sports. There is no freaking way, I'm gonna spend that kinda caaaaash to go to the games. (I live in Utah so that's a moot point). If I lived in San Jose, Denver, Phoenix I still wouldn't. But if I lived in Detroit, Pittsburgh or Boston I would every once in awhile because of the tradition and the fact that their fans seem to "understand" hockey more than other locales for the most part.
Having said all that, I've not missed the NHL. I've REALLY enjoyed turning on the satellite TV and watching college hockey every Fri and Sat night. I get to watch Denver, Col Coll, Wis, Minn just about every week. I wished I get the same team every weekend so I could become more familiar w/ the teams and players.
If you have a chance, try watching some of those college games. Now it's about tourney time and a good time to look for them on the tube.
Whew, it's time for bed.
Gaetz
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MichiganRocks
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Post by MichiganRocks on Feb 28, 2005 7:30:10 GMT -5
Hey Gaeter, I too am a great hockey fan. Living in SE Michigan, the Red Wings and Gordie Howe were always part of my life. I spent many a "Hockey Night" straining to see the game on a snowy screen as I tried to get the broadcast from Windsor, Canada. Living so close to Canada, I have spent a lot time in that country. It has always amazed me how you could go there in the winter time and every where you went you would see kids skating and playing hockey. I would see little kids barely able to walk on skates with a parent pushing a chair on a little patch of ice in a parking lot.
Hockey players here were never the prima donnas that you see in other sports. Around here, their names were in the phone book, and they participated in their community. You could really see all that changing with the likes of Sergei Federov. He thought that he was a Hollywood star, and we were sure glad to see him go! Dave Lewis and Joey Kocur, the head coach and assistant coach of the Red Wings (and both former players) have a bar about 20 minutes from my house. You can find them there often and they are always ready to talk to anyone.
It's sad what's happened to the sport. It's also sad what technology has done to the sport. Huge goalie pads and graphite sticks. It's supposed to be about skill, not technology. Of course golf and bowling are the same way now. Everybody is a big driver now with the clubs that are on the market, and 300 games are rolled so frequent here that there are too many to list each day in the paper. The plastic lanes created that. The days of each lane being a little different and varying from day to day, hour to hour, are gone. Fewer variables means higher scores through better technology, not higher skills.
End of soap box rant. Ron
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Post by gaetzchamp on Feb 28, 2005 13:39:26 GMT -5
So what part of SE Mich are you from. Do you live close enough to Flint, Saginaw or Kalamazoo? Ever go see the old IHL games of the past??
You've got a lot of colleges up there (and Junior A), do you follow any of them? Just watched (or tried to watch.....kids prevented that) Mich. State and BG last weekend.
Given your Penquin signage, are you a Pens fan, or a Wings fan??? Gotta love the Octopi....there's really no better tradition than the throwing of the octopi after a crucial Wings goal.
Later, Gaeter
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MichiganRocks
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Post by MichiganRocks on Feb 28, 2005 17:49:26 GMT -5
I'm about 20 minutes from the arena in Flint where the Flint Generals play. I went there a lot back in the years when they were part of the IHL. They're now part of the UHL. I'd rather go see the Grand Rapids Griffons of the AHL, but they're 2 hours away from me. Saginaw is about 45 minutes from me and they have the Saginaw Spirit of the UHL. I went there a few times when they were the Saginaw Gears of the IHL. I went to college at GMI, so we didn't have any sports. I spent a lot of weekends at Michigan State though. Had a lot of friends there. Used to luv to see the State hockey team play. The old arena there was down in a hole and the fans sat up above the play. Bad part was that you couldn't see about a third of the ice closest to you. I sat in the student section, which you could always spot because that was where the cloud of marijuana smoke was (those were different days in the early 70's!). My, that seems like a lifetime ago. Ron ps. Red Wings! Is there any other team? I put up the penguin joke just because of how disgusted I am with the whole NHL.
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MichiganRocks
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Post by MichiganRocks on Mar 1, 2005 8:38:01 GMT -5
I forgot to mention above that I live roughly an hour from Joe Louis Arena where the Red Wings play used to play. Watched a lot of games there. It was better than the old Olympia as there are no bad seats or obstructed views. Of they only have one bathroom per every 5,000 fans (all of whom are drinking beer) and if they ever had a fire, there'd be 20,000 dead fans as the only way out is down the narrow, steep, tall stairs that access the arena. But what the hell, we're hockey fans. We can take it! We don't need no stinking bathrooms! Ron
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Post by Toad on Mar 4, 2005 6:12:42 GMT -5
How about those two companies that want to buy all 30 teams?
Good. Institute a league maximum salary of $100,000 a year, and if you don't like it you can run the zamboni for $8.00 an hour- no benefits.
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