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Post by rockyraccoon on Sept 5, 2005 13:02:59 GMT -5
the president is headed to poplarville, ms. this is where brett(foreverdown) is from.
kim
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Post by puppie96 on Sept 5, 2005 13:34:24 GMT -5
I'm going to be a vendor at an art/craft show in 2 weeks, that is, assuming I'm home and not on a volunteer stint. Rocks are not what I sell, but I am going to take my gumball machine full of small rocks and put it in my setup, for a quarter people can turn the handle and all proceeds will go to hurricane relief.
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Duckbean
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Post by Duckbean on Sept 5, 2005 15:19:38 GMT -5
My dauther-in-law told me Kim that Drypers a shop here in town who make diapers has two semi's full of diapers on the way down south. I read were you said that some of the babies were wearing napkins for diapers, well this will help some at least.
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Post by rockyraccoon on Sept 5, 2005 17:36:12 GMT -5
puppie i think that's a wonderful idea! i might have to steal that one.
duckbean that made me cry for the 59th time today. but good tears!
God must have known i was about to cave when they showed that poor dog on that flooded porch rail and the boat left him behind. i could never have left him there even if i'd been ordered to leave him. i received an email right behind that airing with news that a team is going in to rescue the animals in new orleans. here's the e-mail:
Hello Everyone, This is a link received from LSU vet school explaining the rescue /triage plans put into place today for managing pets and livestock. I just returned from the rescue center at PArker Coliseum on campus this evening. They have plenty of volunteers (vet students, veterinarians, local residents) and food but need more cages/pens and especially needed fans as it is hot and heat stress seems to be the major problem experienced by pets. The horse center is at Lamar Dixon Center in nearby Gonzales. Donations to the Walter Ernst Foundation (operated by the Louisisana Veterinary Medical Association) is tax deductable and funds will be immediately available for rescue/relief efforts and can be accessed at <lvma.org>. Efforts are being coordinated between the LVMA, LSU School of Veterinary Medicine here in Baton Rouge and the LA SPCA so all are reputable. And of course donations to the Red Cross are always safe and reliable. Baton Rouge is now the center of operation for rescue/relief. Our town has doubled in population in 24 hours. All resources are stretched to the max. Roads are all overloaded, food is in short supply and gas lines are long but remarkably most people are being incredibly patient and polite. Ambulance and fire trucks are screaming all over town. Helicopters fly over constantly. I have never seen anything like this in my life. Yesterday I was crying in disbelief over what had happened. Today, while I realize it is going to be a long haul, I realize that we can rally and do this. We are taking on 3 geriatric horses from New Orleans at our farm who need to be in pasture and cannot stand in stalls because they stock up. Murphy will be excited to have new buddies in his pasture. We are going to be OK. Thanks to all of you for your thoughts and support. We will keep you posted as to progress. Karen
and this:
>Animal Evacuation and Recovery Plan for New Orleans > >BATON ROUGE- The Louisiana Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals >(LA/SPCA), the Louisiana Veterinary Medical Association (LVMA), the >Louisiana Animal Control Association (LACA), and the LSU School of >Veterinary Medicine (SVM) are managing animal evacuations and recovery plans for New Orleans pets and displaced animals. > >PETS TRAVELING WITH OWNERS > >The LVMA is currently accepting pets at the Blackham Coliseum in Lafayette, >LSU in Shreveport, the Monroe Civic Center for small animals and the Ike >Hamilton Center for large animals in Monroe, the Farmer's Market in >Alexandria, and the LSU Agriculture Center/Parker Coliseum in Baton Rouge. >Owners must be housed in a Red Cross shelter; owners are responsible for >caring for their animals, including feeding and cleaning. Animals will be >accepted 24 hours a day. Veterinarians will be on hand to handle any >medical needs. > >While owners are responsible for the feeding and cleaning of their pets at >the Parker Coliseum in Baton Rouge, the SVM, along with volunteers from the >Baton Rouge Veterinary Medical Association, will provide veterinary care. >If for some reason, an owner is unable to care for a pet sheltered in the >Parker Coliseum (e.g., the owner is housed in a special needs shelter), SVM >student volunteers will provide primary care, such as feeding and cleaning. > The East Baton Rouge Animal Control Center will be taking stray animals. > >The Parker Coliseum will be staffed 24 hours a day by a supervising >veterinarian and student volunteers from the School of Veterinary Medicine. > Pets in the Coliseum will be given physical exams and Bordetella (kennel >cough) vaccinations. If a pet requires medical attention and veterinary >monitoring, it will be sent to the LSU School of Veterinary Medicine's >Veterinary Teaching Hospital. > >PEOPLE WITH PETS WHO ARE CURRENTLY EVACUATING NEW ORLEANS > >The LA/SPCA will transport animals from pick-up points in New Orleans to >the Lamar-Dixon Expo Center. The pick-up points have not yet been >determined and are being coordinated with the agency charged with >transporting people from New Orleans to other areas. > >The Lamar-Dixon Expo Center, 9039 St. Landry Rd., Gonzales, La., will serve >as the primary staging area. Once the shelter is full, animals will be >moved to temporary shelters in other areas of Louisiana and Texas. > >The LA/SPCA Dorothy Dorsett Mobile Veterinary Center will be at the >Lamar-Dixon Center to treat incoming animals as needed. > >CONFINED PETS STILL IN DISASTER AREA > >Beginning on September 1, residents who left pets in their homes may call a >hot line to leave information about the number of animals, species, and >their confined location. As soon as the hotline number is obtained, we >will advise the media. WE CANNOT ENTER NEW ORLEANS UNTIL APPROVAL IS GRANTED BY STATE OFFICALS. > >DONATIONS > >Financial donations are being accepted to fund the animals' care through >the Dr. Walter J. Ernst, Jr. Veterinary Memorial Foundation at the LVMA at >1-800-928-LVMA. > >A regional donation center is being established. Our needs include: large >air kennels and metal cages, leashes, disposable bowls, canned cat and dog >food, disposable litter pans, spray bleach, paper towels, sheets, towels, >locks, hoses, bottled water, trash cans, trash bags, pooper scoopers, cat >litter, extension cords, fans. The most urgent needs are kennels and >monetary donations. The media will be advised of the address once >determined. At least 175 animals are currently en route to Baton Rouge. > >For more information or to make donations of the materials listed above, >please call the LSU School of Veterinary Medicine at 225-578-9900 >(www.vetmed.lsu.edu) or the LVMA at 1-800-928-LVMA (www.lvma.org). > >ANIMAL EVACUATION AND RECOVERY PLAN CONTACT INFORMATION > >Louisiana SPCA contact Laura Maloney >225-413-8813 > >East Baton Rouge Animal Control Center Hilton Cole >225-774-7700 > >LSU School of Veterinary Medicine Dr. Becky Adcock >225-578-9900 > >Louisiana Veterinary Medical Association >225-928-5862 > >Sincerely, >Ginger
so if any of y'all saw that poor dog, there is hope, help is coming. i don't know if y'all saw the miniature horses in waveland that were in trouble but if you did the aspca was on the way the next day with feed and water for them. i called our local shelter to tell them i had found someone who would take them if they could help me get them there and relief was already on the way so the man wouldn't lose the remaining 4. i've not heard one peep about the new orleans zoo animals. not a peep. not sure i want to know.
kim
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Post by puppie96 on Sept 6, 2005 3:40:18 GMT -5
Kim, I saw someplace that most of the zoo animals are safe. Yes, I saw the mini horse thingie, I'm so glad they are being taken care of.
If you are talking about the dog on the porch that keeps showing up on CNN (actually, there's another dog there too but not as visible), it is eerie, the dog looks so much like my last dog Maxie, who came from the Humane Society full grown, and was at least 16-1/2, and possibly 17, at the time of her death -- amazing for a 60 pound dog. Weirdly enough, the TV image showed up on Sept. 4th, the anniversary date of her death. If I could swoop down and get that dog, I probably couldn't give her up so maybe I wouldn't be the best rescuer.
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Post by docone31 on Sept 6, 2005 7:13:15 GMT -5
If an hurricane of that magnitude hit where we live, we would be in it really deeply. Our Bengals have needs that would not allow us to travel, nor would they survive in a shelter. Hurricanes are a life changing event, even on a small scale. Here, when we bought our house, a tropical storm had gone over and power was out for six days! My house in Punta Gorda survived Charlie last year. I did not lose a shingle or piece of facia! My neighbors are gone. When I think about it, I never allow myself to think for a moment it was because somehow I am a superior house repair individual. I was just lucky. Hurricanes are like that. Even in an hurricane like George, which I also was in, and Irene the next year, life changes. The effects of the hurricanes are felt for years afterwards. Electrical wires corrode and fail months, and years afterwards. Fear although not expressed, grows. My wife watches the weather channel by the hour. This was from small wind storms. Katrina was an hammer from the skies. I was in Andrew, in Homestead. I saw the eyewall. I was next to a palm tree and witnessed a 2 X 4 get driven half way through the tree and come out intact, stuck in the tree. After the storm, when it was quiet and the mosquitos came and everything was damp, I saw a brand new automobile that had been lifted and set on a second floor of an house! After an hurricane, the next day the shock is still in effect. On the third day, fruit cravings set in. Not sleeping catches up. The life changes become apparent. When I see pictures of folks giving to private charities, it warms my heart. I know those supplies will get to their destination. After hurricane George, bottled water was selling for six dollars a small bottle. It took a while but people started getting stronger, order came about. In time, we too will heal. It warms my heart to see us caring. It makes me feel glad to see photos of people giving a little bit and little bits filling a truck. I know what that means to people affected by Katrina. I know what that first truck means when it arrives. I know what it means when the first Aid station is open and a Dr., is there to just adminster antibiotics. A small cut after an hurricane can quickly turn into a life threatening infection! The damp turns into rashes that grow and get serious. When the church near where I was opened up for a warm meal, it was like coming out of the darkness into the light. Suddenly people who never spoke to one another were reaching out. People who lost everything were serving food, wearing the only clothes they had left. It warms my heart to see the pictures of the supplies being loaded. I know they will reach their destination. This time I am giving, next time I might be hoping. Who cares what boxes supplies are in. Supplies are getting to people in need. It makes me proud.
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Post by rockyraccoon on Sept 6, 2005 20:19:54 GMT -5
doc it makes me proud too. our nation has been put to the test in the first 1/2 of this decade. i was young when camille hit ms. we were in biloxi and cut our vacation short because of camille. i remember very little about it except my aunt took the $8 i found on the ground at the biloxi fair. that's what stuck in my mind. i wanted my $8.
i don't think we're through this season however. you said it before but i didn't really understand. i'm hearing you now. i don't think they ought to start rebuilding anything until after november.
kim
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Post by rockyraccoon on Sept 7, 2005 23:40:22 GMT -5
well the groceries are back on the shelves. i ran out of coffee and had to make a late trip to the grocery store. the meat is back out and though i can still see huge gaps on the shelves that haven't been stocked yet, there were huge stacks of items fixing to be put out. when i checked out i asked the checker was she there when the mess went on the other night. her eyes got big and she said no she wasn't working. she said it was bad. then a guy i went to high school with was close by and said a guy shot himself in the parking lot during all of this. the checker said he was alive and i'm still puzzling over that. he was shot in the back of the head. that's not usually where one shoots themself is it? and this little tumbler said weeeeeee, weeeeeeeee, weeeeeeeee all the way home and will not be going back for coffee at night!
kim
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Post by Cher on Sept 8, 2005 10:20:25 GMT -5
Kim, it's wonderful that you are being so helpful and caring but please take care of yourself ... your family needs you too.
My girlfriend down in Ft. Worth is volunteering at an animal rescue shelter. They are bringing in a large number of rescued animal to them who will need a ton of comfort and care. She'll be doing things like bathing and taking them out for walks so they can get some exercise. Poor things, I can't imagine the terror many of them have had to endure, hopefully many of them will be place in foster homes and eventually returned to their families.
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Post by rockyraccoon on Sept 8, 2005 11:42:55 GMT -5
oh cher that to me takes super strength to volunteer at the shelters. i would pay them not to make me go. i would want every single animal. i have a terrible weakness for animals.
kim
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Post by rockyraccoon on Sept 10, 2005 14:45:45 GMT -5
i went by the hurricane relief shelter and things have calmed down there considerably even though the # of evacuees has risen to over 1600. we have 7-10 red cross workers coming tomorrow to assist. some of our local nurses went to pull a 72 hr shift at one of the hospitals on the coast. the stories they brought back are awful. i hope to have some 1st hand pics of the coast to share with y'all soon.
kim
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Post by krazydiamond on Sept 10, 2005 15:58:38 GMT -5
any real first hand news would be much appreciated, Kim, thanks!
KD
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Post by rockyraccoon on Sept 14, 2005 12:44:37 GMT -5
well my husband has been pacing the floors since the hurricane hit. worried about the economy, price of gas, the increases in material costs we are already experiencing, worried spending will slow down....yesterday he made his mind up he was heading to the coast himself to see what is going on. he headed out this morning in the wee hours. i got shane instead of him the 1st time i tried to call and he didn't give up much info so i called back about an hr later and got my husband. he said what we are seeing on tv does not show us how bad it really is. i sent 2 disposable cameras with him and he said he is using them. he said the helicopters are flying over constantly. he had already found them jobs by the time i called and told me he has several jobs lined up already. when i asked him how long he'd be there he said a year at least. i think i've told y'all before that my husband is a workaholic. he left with 2 employees, a sack of clothes, a trailer full of equipment, sandwich fixings, water, sodas, and very little pocket money. he'll have to come back surely in a few days to replenish his supplies and buy some kind of trailer for them to have a place to stay or something. shane is getting married next weekend so i may have to go rescue him. will definitely have some 1st hand news and pics soon!
kim
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Post by rockyraccoon on Sept 14, 2005 20:25:24 GMT -5
i've talked to my hubby several times now. i think he's a little overwhelmed with it all. he said every remaining house is just gutted with huge piles of flooring, sheetrock, furniture, appliances all piled up outside. he said the air actually stinks. he was lost one of the times i talked to him and they have to get off the coast by 5. he said they have a gate and guards with machine guns to keep people out at night. i don't know where he got a tent but he said they are staying in a tent in someone's yard.
kim
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Post by Cher on Sept 16, 2005 10:41:05 GMT -5
I have a friend on my board that went down with a group from her church, she said the same thing. You just can't even imagine the truth about how things look, it just doesn't come through on the tv. Things are scanned by too fast on the news, it doesn't give enough time for it to really set in and connect with just how bad it is. Kim, your hubby is a very special person to do this. My prayers to him as he works there to help others.
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Post by rockyraccoon on Sept 17, 2005 0:41:20 GMT -5
cher he's not going as a volunteer. he's making contacts for the flooring work that is fixing to be done all over down there. he is home now and it looks like it will be around 2 wks before flooring will really get started maybe longer. i truly do think he was overwhelmed with it all. he went all the way across ms and though he could not get into new orleans he went across louisiana. i really didn't think he could be overwhelmed but i think i was wrong.
kim
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Post by rockyraccoon on Sept 19, 2005 4:14:09 GMT -5
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Post by docone31 on Sept 19, 2005 7:33:47 GMT -5
Yeppir! That looks like what I have been through too many times. The storm gets close, everybody is nervous, the animals start pacing. The storm comes on shore, things get busy and your world gets real small. Afterwards, shock. It is all gone, and what is left is destroyed by being outside of its normal environment. The few things, memories, get trashed by the moisture. Pictures disappear, tools get completely rusted, water is in everything. Chain saws do not start, autos do not start if they were not completely flooded. After that, you look around, and realize how dependant you were on "things", how much of your life oriented around a routine, and the "things" and routine are gone. Then everything is damp. For a long time. People get cabin fever, and even if they are ok, they start fighting with each other. Over little things. Then you have something like Katrina. I am glad you guys are doing what can be done. It is great to see photos. Some people there have worked all their lives and in 12hrs it is all gone, nothing left, except having strangers with firearms telling them what to do. Their suffering is unimagineable. Then there are those who thought they were prepared, only to find out otherwise. The strength of a plan of action is only as secure as the weakest point/source. They had food, water, they never figuired on the humidity, or heat. They had food/water/secured clothing, only they never saw what 10' of water does to a structure. They had everything, just in case only they never saw what a simple wound can do, or not being able to wash their hair, or just get clean. Thanks for the photos. A picture is worth a thousand words.
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Post by rockyraccoon on Sept 19, 2005 22:11:04 GMT -5
oh i am elated tonight! by way of some of the links i have researched i found this one wx.gulfcoastnews.com/katrina/status.aspx . it was buried in a message board but i lucked upon it. i have been searching messages for news of 2 of my college buddies that married and lived in pass christian. the word i had received is that there is no pass christian, ms. i had no idea if they rode the storm out or evacuated and trying to find someone in this jumbled up mess is like looking for a needle in a haystack. one centralized board for those missing and those found would be so much easier but there are many, many of these lists and they don't seem to connect. you can search by just last name, just first name, both names, city, or name and city. i had tried several methods before i got a hit and found my buddy who had entered the wrong email address for himself but had his cell phone # listed. i gave him a call and we were so excited to connect. they rode the storm out and he said he was outside and saw the surge coming in and was saying "look at that water" then realized how big it was and hollered for his family to get in the attic. he said it was 8' deep on his property but only 5' deep in the house. everything was damaged or swept away but the structure itself. 2 of his neighbors were swept away and have not been found. they stayed for 3 days in shock then headed for our old college town where they have rented a house and will start over. when i asked him what he needed, he said not a thing - he lost everything but said not a thing. he said they are much more fortunate than many. kim
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Post by Cher on Sept 21, 2005 13:21:15 GMT -5
OMG Kim, those pics are amazing. It's hard to believe anyone at all was able to live through that. I'm so glad for you to have found your friend, I can't even imaging the worry and despair people are still going through looking for loved ones and friends. And now the worry of hurricane Rita, how much more can they handle. It's so scary how the past two years have been with the hurricanes and devastation they have caused. Looking at those pics, you'd have to be an extremely cold person not to be overwhelmed by that.
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