S&H

I think as I stated before, that my anger is towards people who end up getting a break on seller's fees for being dishonest and charging exorbitant amounts for shipping. I sell on ebay too and the gripe is, ebay allows this to happen and frankly, it creates an unlevel playing field. There is the vast majority of ebay sellers who are honest and ethical, and then these asswipes who are getting ahead on our backs because of their unethical behavior. Back int he day, I've managed to get more than one auction pulled for exorbitant shipping. But ebay really needs to do something to stop this unfair exploit of the system.

THAT is what I find unfair. I have no problem whatsoever with passing such auctions by. It still sticks in my craw that they are cheating the system while so many others feel the right thing to do is to pay their fair share.

Hilarious! Says "Time for me to leave this thread. I've had my say." And then goes on with more of the same stuff about how if we don't agree with him - we are closed minded. If everyone followed that logic, the whole world would be closed-minded.

LOL...I don't think Daniel is my type but I'm at least willing to 'make up'... I suppose I was a little harsh but 'Holy Cow' .....I had to say something....

Hawk - I completely agree with you...There should be some method of ensuring that exorbitant shipping charges are not being used as a method of cheating the system....With that said....I wonder how that could be accomplished?

Gemkoi hits the nail square when he points out that the consumers will ultimately be the ones who 'fix' these problems.

Toad - I think you're somewhat like me in that you're willing to listen to well thought out constructive criticism (like Hawks) but........well..... I'll just stop there.

Sorry Cher....I'm putting the nail gun away now....I'll try not to bring it out anymore.

I agree, hawke. Ebay knows the loophole is there and they choose not to close it - for whatever reason.

Us regular Joes and Janes can stop it by not bidding on auctions where we think the shipping is too high. They are obviously on ebay to make money. If no one bids on their stuff they aren't making any. Prices will fall.

Ebays got the money to shoot itself in the foot a million times over.

I use a company of ebay for my website(prostores), and i can prove through my costs of fees and such, since using this service, ebay has lost allot of money from me. MY selling fees went from $150 a month to $35 a month, and my website sales increased 30%. However a recent update to this companies servers(prostores), has screwed all usability out of using ebay with ease. As there selling point was a redirect function for your ebay buyers, to your website. Well, it doesn’t work anymore, and prostores says they are fixing it. But it wasn’t really broke as bad as it is now before they tried to fix it. And sure enough i had to jump back into ebay and spend more money just to bring sales back up in an advertising since.

If they made the seller, build shipping rates into the starting price, they will lose more money because sellers like myself wont pay a fee that will only keep going up. Because if that’s in the set price, your going to be charged a higher fee to sell it. But shipping is part of the cost to sell it, so the frist people to drop ebay will be these people who rely solely on shipping fees to make profit. And sellers like you and I will leave next because we'll have to pay higher cost for something that is already cost. AS the hounest sellers will get jacked around more than the dishounest ones. Not smart business in my opinion and with so many other auction style places now people can sell from, ebay most stay very competitive and allow these loopholes to stay.

I say its still the buyer who will change that, because when the seller has to keep paying a fee regardless, and there stuff isn’t selling. They will leave, or lower the price in shipping if that’s the main concern. AS you cant drop something from $.99 to $.01 and the buyer will still buy it. They will see the shipping in either case and should stay away.

Figure, a package ships almost anywhere in the world for under $10, if the weight is under 12ozs.

Remember, buying rocks from oversea vendors is never a good idea unless you're familiar with the trade. Just for the shipping costs, and in most cases the only option is for bulk.

IF the seller is in the states, and ask more than $10 for shipping within the USA. Never buy from them, simple as that in my opinion. ANd if you buy rough, you most figure high shipping costs peroid becasue of the weight. Thats why allot of sellers like the flat rate box from USPS. And still insured with dleievery confrim, it wouldnt cost over $10.

There's always someone ranting about shipping. I think potential bidders should be allowed to ask nicely for a reconsideration on shipping. After all it's a free market. If they don't like the answer they hear - move on. Don't take that #%$@ Xena.