14 Reasons To Deport Illegal Aliens

i just wish i could get a small amount of help for me....taking in little brother.....i am just now learning how the illegals have learned to take all of the funds available....and folks like me that try to help people are considered outsiders.

it really is a major mess...i kinda understood as i sat outside of the food stamp office....and the mexican people rolled in and out in new vehicles....and my little blazer sat there....waiting on little brother to come out....yep he got food stamps....he got $11.00 a month.....this illegal shit is making me sick.

im sorry all....i need to learn to work the system....or i can stay honest....kev.

Just a short note...
It has been suggested that towns and city...rather than fight all the lawsuits about illegals, is to put pressure and recommend those illegals move to the areas that are known sanctuary town and cities...let those communities bare the burden of the cost of harboring all the illegals...

maybe when they get overloaded with costs they will wise up...

We should just dig a canal and fill it with alligators.

the Mexican government has a program as outlined on a pbs show that teaches the soon to be illegals how to sign-up for all the free goodies as they see it,back in the 60s there was talk around the world about making the USA into a third world country but it was laughed off by "our" government,might be too late folks

i totaly agree with everything said,,,,,but the general idea is "i cant do any thing about it",america as a whole has to get off its ass,join together,and start fighting this problem NOW,JEEZ,its about to late now.....

My Grandfather came over here on a boat, back in something like 1897.
My Grandfather had to take all the "exams", so I guess my Grandfather came here legally and I don't have to shut up on that point....
Do you have a time period when all these "procedures" came about?
Give some rough dates or links to back up you're statements, please.
How about Ellis Island opening back in 1892 and before that, Castle Garden served as a immigration station from 1855-1890. As an immigration station, I'm sure they had "procedures" to follow to become a legal American.
My Grandfather learned to speak English, he also tried his hardest to become Americanized. He had more of a goal than to just work for cash and rape the welfare system.

Well it is common sense that things were not always the way they are, and everyone knows there was a time people just came to the new world. ALso lots of people came to places outside the US that later became part of the US. So it is not like I need to "back anything up" - common sense does that.

My argument does not depend on exact dates because it does not matter if the door was wide open for 50 or 100 years after the colonial period. A lot of people came with no need of legalities. It does not matter if it was 25 of 50 years after that that any kind oq quota or visa or passport was first used - plenty of people including e-dong's granfather came without a visa, passport, lottery, or waiting period. Anyone who wants to know more about the timeline for policies and how/when they changed can easily find information on the web.

But in the interest of organizing the discussion, here are some key dates:

Significant Historic Dates
Affecting US immigration

Naturalization Act of 1790 Stipulated that "any alien, being a free white person, may be admitted to become a citizen of the United States"

1875 Supreme Court declared that regulation of US immigration is the responsibility of the Federal Government.

1882 The Chinese Exclusion Act prohibited certain laborers from immigrating to the United States.

1885 and 1887 Alien Contract Labor laws which prohibited certain laborers from immigrating to the United States.

1891 The Federal Government assumed the task of inspecting, admitting, rejecting, and processing all immigrants seeking admission to the U.S.

1892 On January 2, a new Federal US immigration station opened on Ellis Island in New York Harbor.

1903 This Act restated the 1891 provisions concerning land borders and called for rules covering entry as well as inspection of aliens crossing the Mexican border.

1907 The US immigration Act of 1907 reorganized the states bordering Mexico (Arizona, New Mexico and a large part of Texas) into Mexican Border District to stem the flow of immigrants into the U.S.

1917 - 1924 A series of laws were enacted to further limit the number of new immigrants. These laws established the quota system and imposed passport requirements. They expanded the categories of excludable aliens and banned all Asians except Japanese.

1924 Act Reduced the number of US immigration visas and allocated them on the basis of national origin.

1940 The Alien Registration Act required all aliens (non-U.S. citizens) within the United States to register with the Government and receive an Alien Registration Receipt Card (the predecessor of the "green card").

1950 Passage of the Internal Security Act which rendered the Alien Registration Receipt Card even more valuable. Immigrants with legal status had their cards replaced with what generally became known as the "green card" (Form I-151).

1952 Act Established the modern day US immigration system. It created a quota system which imposes limits on a per-country basis. It also established the preference system that gave priority to family members and people with special skills.

1968 Act Eliminated US immigration discrimination based on race, place of birth, sex and residence. It also officially abolished restrictions on Oriental US immigration.

1976 Act Eliminated preferential treatment for residents of the Western Hemisphere.

1980 Act Established a general policy governing the admission of refugees.

1986 Act Focused on curtailing illegal US immigration. It legalized hundred of thousands of illegal immigrants. It also introduced the employer sanctions program which fines employers for hiring illegal workers. It also passed tough laws to prevent bogus marriage fraud.

1990 Act Established an annual limit for certain categories of immigrants. It was aimed at helping U.S. businesses attract skilled foreign workers; thus, it expanded the business class categories to favor persons who can make educational, professional or financial contributions. It created the Immigrant Investor Program.

So anyone who came during the first 100 +/- years of this (1776-1876) country could just come. If they were white and male, they could swear allegiance in a local court (after a waiting period) and be naturalized. SInce women did not vote or own property, they generally did not naturalize, although their native-born kids were citizens.

Anyone who came prior to 1776 could just walk in, but may have been considered a foreigner, depending on which nation owned the colony.

When we annexed territory, we generally declared residents to be citizens. So folks who traveled to the Louisiania territories, southern California, Texas - they never had to follow a legal process, they just came to a territory that we subsequently absorbed.

Many people did come from Europe between 1876 and post-WWII. However many others came earlier. Many of us are descended form people who came before the 1870's or who came to parts of the frontieer that was not yet part of the USA.

As for e-dog's grandfater, there was no quota system then (not until 1917), there was no such thing as a visa then. SO the only "legalities" he had to go through for immigration was a 50cent immigrint tax, and be inspected for loathsome disease, idiocy, or being Asian.

Subsequently he was naturalized, and went through additional legal procedures such as a waiting period and an oath. He did not have to get a green card, or get any kind of US visa. He just submitted to inspection, walked in, and after a waiting period was eligible for naturalization. While he did nothing illegial, I would hardly call this comming LEGALLY in the sense of the legal immigration requirements today.

We also have no way of knowing if e-dog's grandfather would have bothered to stop for inspection if his ship had landed in Canada, and after some time working in Canada, he moved down to the mid-west. Even the fact that he subsequently sought naturalization, does not imply that he would have followed any particular procedure if he had come through Canada instead of Ellis Island. For all we know, if inspectors had not started meeting boats, this man might just have disembarked and gone about his business.

SO my point, once again, is that the cry that our ancestors came LEGALLY is one the a lot of us can't make, and for those who did go through an inspection process, that is still not the same thing as getting a visa under a quota system.

Only the descendents of more recent immigrents from the 1920's onward can shout with ritheous indignation that their anscestors came here LEGALLY. ... and still we have no way of knowing that the would have if there had not been an ocean in the way.

SO why dont we look at the issues of labor, security, national identity, social justice ... whatever. Lets have intelligent discussion of substance, and not get all emotional over some misguided sense that most of our ancestors came here through legal channels that bear ANY resemblence to todays laws. Lets not act like folks were comming her LEGALLY for 300 years, because "not illegal" or simply submitting to inspection is nowhere close to modern legal requirements. That kind of emotional righteousness just clouds the issue.

Just like in the Bible, back in the old testament, women covered their heads; prostitutes did not. If you accidently walked out of your house without covering your head, boy, did that cause a scandal! Even at the turn of the century (1900) it was scandalous to show your ankle let alone your leg. Only the "dance hall girls" did that. Now, 2000+ years later, most women do NOT cover their heads in public (at least in America), does that make them all prostitutes because that was the law or belief back then? And now, no one thinks twice if a girl is in public in short shorts and a bikini top. Because our imigration laws back 100+ years ago may not have been the same as they are now, there was still criteria that had to be met before entering our country. Yeah, when it was the "new world" people came over here for religious freedoms, etc. without filling out an application. But once our country became "established", the immigration laws went into effect. We are still a very young country in comparison to the rest of the world. They are trying to use every excuse in the book not to put up some kind of barrier on our southern borders; wildlife issues, etc. There is a way to stop them from coming in, but that would mean laying off a bunch of workers from Homeland Security, ICE, ATF, DEA, etc. because there wouldn't be enough work for them. Plus, with all the surplus income tax that is withheld from illegals using someone else's SSN, who do not file tax returns to get their refunds, they would be out of that revenue plus what they withhold for Social Security! And they definitely do not want to lose the cheap labor and not having to pay for benefits for illegal employees. If I was a concrete contractor, I would rather pay $6.50 to $10.00 an hour instead of $33.50 per hour plus health insurance to a legal American employee who is a member of the union! Geez, what are you all thinking? You know you'd rather pay $3,000.00 for a new driveway than $6,000.00 to a company that employs union concrete workers!

Unfortunately, our country wants it both ways. There will be a cost either way. But I am very tired knowing my taxes from my hard earned wages go to take care of them and their children. I know they work hard, and they do deserve to have a better life, but come up here legally! I would think they would be more proud knowing they are here legally (like the majority of our ancestors) and not have to worry about getting deported every minute of your life!

Damn, you are a dick. I see why alot of people have a problem with you here.
You're opinion is, that I have flawed arguments? So be it.

Good, fix it and please don't respond to anything I post.
Don't make the same mistake twice.
I'm just really surprised you admitted to making a mistake.